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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 12:47 am PST

A Different Perspective

Dear Dr.Phil,  

     My name is Destiny and my husband and I are currently serving in the United States Air Force as a "mil-to-mil" couple as we are called.  I have so many questiosn and feelings towards Kelly and Grant.  My husband and I are both up at the crack of dawn getting ready for work, preparing our two year old for daycare, going  to work, both attending school, we both cook, clean, organize, study (school and career testing), sleep, and still have to try to remain sane and make time for each other.  On Kelly's side I take my hat off to you.  I wish I had the courage to stay at home and do what you do.  I would love to be able to see and share each and every moment with my children.  So don't take what you do for granted and don't allow anyone else, inculding Grant, to influence your children that you are less of a person for not working outside the home.  Grant I side with you becasue I to am very complusive about everything and my husband is the laid back one, but that does not give you the right to put your wife down.  My advice coming from a copuple that goes through the exact same struggle on a daily basis is to do it together.  Grant come home one night and wash the clothes, take your wife to dinner, or put the children to bed while your wife takes a bath.  Let her know that the things she's doing are acceptable in your eyes and that if she does need you that you are there. Believe me we are a young military couple that started our family quickly.  We had to learn alot fast, so please try and be me more open and helpful to Kelly.  Becasue remember if you can't stand the way she does soemthing, you can always do it yourself :)       

 
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February 21, 2006, 12:55 am PST

What do you think is the role of the wife?

The role of the wife is the same as the role of the husband. My husband and I work equally hard for our home. He is in the US Army and leaves the house at 5:30 am M-F and does not return home until 6-7pm. Once he is home he will help with our 4 kids ranging in age from 10 years to 10 months, he will help with the dinner if needed and he always has positive and loving things to say to me no matter how crazy the household is. As for myself, I am a stay at home Mom. I get the 3 older kids off to school in the morning, take care of the baby, care for the house and I am also taking college classes. On the weekends we both take care of the house and the kids. I give 100% of myself and my husband also gives 100% of himself. We do not have a list of "the wifes" jobs or "the husbands" jobs, we just do what needs to be done at the time to have a happy family and a happy marriage.
 
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February 21, 2006, 12:58 am PST

Set yourself up for success!

I was glad to see Grant so eager to change.  But as a mother of three boys (11, 10, and 8 years old) I think there are somethings Kelly can do to help herself be a successful wife.   

  1. Clear the clutter.  Clutter creates the illusion of mess and also increases stress.  Closets and drawers full of stuff even when put away still looks like a mess.   If you aren't using it regularly...donate it to charity. 
  2. Set aside a 1/2 hour a day for "fluffing" your home.  Daily house cleaning should never take more than that.  Get your kids to help.  It is time together with your kids and also a great way to teach them to be self-sufficient.  Your home does not need to be chemically cleaned daily.  Picking up clutter, a quick wipe down of tables and chairs, and making the beds can really make a difference. 
  3. Forget dance classes, try cooking classes.  Most cities offer classes that are inexpensive and can be a great break from the day-to-day routine.  My husband watched my boys one night a week for me to take a one hour cooking class.  I loved the interaction with other adults and now my husband loves to eat at home.  In fact now he encourages me to make larger portion so he can have leftovers!
  4. Finally, never neglect your children for housework.  You get one chance to raise your children to be responsible and valuable adults.  If your kids turn out to be wonderful adults, who cares whether the house was white-glove clean!

Always remember that success is best measured by one's children.  Never be criticize your spouse's cleaning in front of your kids because they will soon associate dad's anger toward mommy is because they made a mess.  Love them and cherish them.  Their happiness is the best payment for a job well done!   

 
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February 21, 2006, 1:03 am PST

Tips to a better Wife

I am a 24 year old military wife with a 1 year old child.  I have been married to my husband, my best friend, for almost 2 years.  My parents were divorced when I was young and I learned a lot of lessons.  One of them is that constant criticism gets you no where.  I do all the normal wifely duties like doing the laundry, wash the dishes, clean the house, etc.  The reason I do those things is because I love my husband so much that I am more than willing to do those things.  Here's what he does for me:  he respects me and what I think, he makes me feel cherished, he helps if I need a break, he helps me cook dinner, he helps sort and do laundry, he takes care of our son whenever he can, he always thanks me for my hard work at home, he never fails to tell me he loves me everyday, he is always letting me know that he will be with me (no matter what the house looks like), he tells me he needs me and so much more.  I never have to ask him to do those things and he never holds them against me.  I have the utmost respect for him.  I feel so loved and appreciated that doing my wifely duties is the least I can do.  So here are a few tips to having a better wife:  be her best friend, let her know that you love her no matter the situation, let her know that you need her, let her know that you appreciate everything that she does, and any thing else that would let her know that she is the most wonderful thing that ever happened to you.  That is how you can get a better wife.  You'll be surprised at the results.
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:31 am PST

Kudos to Grant!

Quote From: fyra_fox

When men (and I use that term loosely in this case) like this spend so much time focusing on what the wife is or isn't doing, isn't it very likely they are covering up for something that they aren't doing correctly? Apparently, he is so busy keeping everyone focused on her that one has to wonder what kind of a father, husband, friend, son, and human being he is. Sounds like he is the one with the problem to me. He is covering up his own inadequacies. What kind of woman puts up with that? 

  

-fyra 

I just watched the second show with Grant and Kelly (we are in Italy and the military networks play it at 8am CET or 2am EST).  Many of you will feel bad about your comments after seeing the show.  Some of your criticism is hypocritical.  Grant is REALLY trying to better this situation.  He has read much of Self Matters and comes to the show prepared with questions to help remedy this situation.  He still has some steps to make, as we all do, but the fact that he came to the show once, came to the show twice, and is truly trying to take those daily steps towards bettering himself and his expectations in life says great things about his character.  Kudos to you Grant.  And to Kelly hang in there...you have a guy who wants to change. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:18 am PST

Just a thought.........

Dr. Phil, I am a military spouse, but I have also been an international Plus Size model for over 10 yrs, so I have had a bit of colorful life experience.  While watching this show, I couldn't believe how unreal Grant was.  I never would have thought that men like that even existed, and I've met alot of men traveling the world.  I now reside in Italy, home of the "old fashioned, men love their mothers above all else" mentality, however, Grant shocked my system.  When 2 people meet, it's not their potentials for being a good husband or wife that makes someone fall in love with them, it's them as individuals, personality, sense of humor, compassion or lack there of, that' s what attracts people.  When you decide to get married, it becomes a partnership, not a corporation, with one person as president and then employees underneath them. Wives and children are not employees.  If Grant lives to believe that his wife should concur to a list of 'job descriptions', why was this not presented before the couple signed a lifelong contract?  Before you accept any job position, there is posted a list of responsibilities that you are expected to fulfill while in that position, and as the position changes, so do the list of responsibilities.  Well, Kelly used to have the one job of looking after herself, then she got married, so now the unlisted job description of a wife, in Grant's eyes, came into play, however, she was never notified of this list and so guessed her way through the first couple of years, learning the hard way.  Then children, okay, now the job description has changed again.  She now carries the weight of 3, executive positions in one 'company', her marriage.  In a typical work day, lets stretch it to 10 hours, there comes a time when all employees get to go home and relax, however, under Grant's savvy business mind, his poor wife has become a slave instead of an employee, and even worse, she is no where near being a partner. 

I was in a previous marriage where I had unreal expectations of my mate,  and on my mates part, he was living a double life, he is now still leading that double life with his new wife, but I have hopefully moved on and worked through those expectations.  I came from a very old fashioned family, my Dad worked outside the home, both literally and figuratively, and my mom for several years was a stay at home mom, then she went back to work once we were in school.  My parents had an agreement, they outlined their joint responsibilities in the marriage and home, and it worked for them ( for awhile, they are divorced), I am also a stay at home mom/self-employed working woman, when I'm at home, I take on the respective responsibilities, when I'm at work, my husband becomes both Mom and Dad, doing laundry, cooking etc.  I would suggest for Grant and his wife, to do a role reversal, see if he can live up to his own expectations.  I would also be interested in learning where he picked up the list of 75 items required by his wife.  Do any of them include her own identity, or just his?  Their lists should read: 

1) Must put my spouses needs before my own 

2) Must try to share the household responsibilities 50/50 

3) My spouse should have at least 1hr a day to do whatever they want for themselves 

4) My children should wake up with a smile on their faces everyday knowing they are in a secure and loving environment 

5) We share the responsibility of cooking and cleaning 50/50 or as much as our schedules allow 

6) My spouse should never have to feel like they 'MUST' do anything for me, they should do it because they 'WANT' to, never because they have to. 

7)God is the only person who has a right to pass judgment on me, and even then he allows for a few faults and forgives 

8)"Lead by example and others will follow", "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you", "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours".......etc. 

9)"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink" 

and finally  

10) As you can see, I've run out of stupid rules and requirements by number 8, so rule number 10 is, burn, tear, spit on, flush all lists and rules of marriage, because each marriage is going to be different and that's because it's two individuals who create a marriage and together they will decide what is acceptable, if your intentions are otherwise, you should let the other person know upfront, otherwise, that's false advertising and you should be sued!!!! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:21 am PST

Had an engineer boyfriend

Watching this show was helped explain the behavior of my last boyfriend, who is an engineer too. Like Grant, he didn't communicate very well and was very critical, wanting me to wear nicer clothes, magically grow my hair 10 inches longer overnight, cook better, differently, decorate the house more nicely... nothing I did or was really measured up. Our first real discussion about how this was making me feel ended up with him telling me that he didn't love me...I wonder at myself why I stood for it even for those few months. I wonder at Kelly too, since she has endured this for 7 years!
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:56 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

After reading the write up, im glad the Olympics are on and I wont be able to see the follow up!  If I had to sit through another hour of Grants bs I think I might get ill.  Doesent sound like anything much has changed and once again, Kelly is crying.    Think Kelly should let Grant keep that ring off and start collecting child support and alimony! 

  

Someone mentioned about Grant being intelligent.  There are all kinds of intelligence in this world.  Personally, I would rather a be with a high school drop out who had emotional intelligence as opposed to this engineer braniac who cant even figure out how to  make his wife happy.  For someone who is supposed to be so very smart, he sure is dumb! 

  

Oh!  The list!  LMAO!  How does any woman sit there and hear that list and manage to keep a straight face?  Too funny!!!!  Why Kelly doesent tell Grant where to stick his list along with telling him not to worry over wearing his ring anymore is beyond me.  In my opinion, this is now on her.  If she is gonna sit there and take this crap then nothing much to do about it.  Her choice.  Too bad the children are gonna be the ones paying the ulitmate price by listening and watching daddy act like a tyrant to mommy.     

  

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 4:09 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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There is a theory that exists in the civic government and law enforcement circles that is referred to as Broken Windows. To paraphrase it, a house with broken windows shows that no one cares. If neglected long enough, the house with broken windows will be assumed to be abandoned, invaded by mischief seekers (or worse) and rapidly decay from there. My interpretation of this theory is that attention to details is very important. Not every kid that witnesses his mother neglecting her home will become a drug pusher or a pimp on the south side of town. I think you really extended yourself making that kind of conclusion. But, what does it teach a kid about grooming and personal cleanliness when he or she grows up in a house kept in disarray. Children benefit from routines in their lives - go look it up in a book.

If you were so worried about your children then you would stop with all your endless demands and petty nonsense.  Youre more concerned about an orderly house then your very own childrens emotional/psychological development.    

  

Grooming, cleanliness, house in order, blah blah blah blah.  Youre like a broken record!  Heres a clue for the braniac:  CHILDREN WOULD RATHER LIVE IN A MESSY HOUSE OF LOVE THEN IN AN ORDERLY HOUSE OF UNHAPPINESS!   

  

Kelly, its ALL on you now.  Make your choice.  Your husbands endless demanding negative intolerant behavior, or your childrens best interest and your own peace of mind.  CHOOSE! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 4:54 am PST

My former life on television

I was married for 17 years to a man like Grant, who complained about everything I did.  Nothing was ever good enough.  I see where Grant mentions that he wants Kelly to do more as far as decorating windows, but when she does (pink curtains in the dining room), he isn't satisfied.  That was my marriage to a T.  My heart goes out to Kelly.  The truth is, Grant will never appreciate her for the wonderful person she is.  Something in his wiring creates in him the need to be hypercritical of her.  I wish there were a solution for her other than leaving him, especially since they have children.  I hung on for a number of years for the sake of the children but in the end, had to choose my sanity and my desire to have a happy household and peace in my life over staying married to someone who wasn't going to be happy no matter what I did.  Good luck to them.  I hope Grant can see that his behavior isn't getting him what he truly wants, which is a happy married life and works to change. 
 
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