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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 2:28 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

I think Grants expectations are simply too much.  Being a stay at home mom, I do take on the majority of the household chores, and I believe it is my responsibility, my husband leaves the house each day and works hard, he shouldn't have to come home and clean or cook, most of the time...however, just because I am able to be home, doesn't mean that I don't get tired or exhausted either...I have two kids in school full-time, one in K4 half days, and do some babysitting in my home for extra money..some days are super easy, every things is tidy and in order and some days are very stressful and if we have a homemade meal, we're doing good!!   I guess it all comes down to balance, respect, and basically compromise.  Even people that go outside the home and work each day, you have good days and bad days.   If Grants wife is doing the basics of taking care of the home to the best of her ability,  and spending the rest of her time trying to raise healthy, happy children he ought to get his priorities straight and really figure out what is most important, after all a home is just that, a home, place to keep you warm and dry and rest your head at night....what goes on inside that home, and the kind of  parent and wife you are is really what is most important.   

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:29 pm PST

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 I have never written on a message board before today but feel compelled after seeing the Dr. Phil show on Grant and Kelly.  This issue is so much bigger than this one couple but illistrates a deep gender divide in our country.  What I kept thinking over and over as I watched the show is...why is Kelly the one staying home with the kids?  Grant seems to think he would do a much better job, and maybe he would, so why not give it a try?  Grant is suffering from the notion that Kelly's job is no more difficult than his so she should have no problems getting his lists accomplished.  The fact of the matter is that Kelly's job is much more difficult and has the added pressure of being much more emotional.  Raising children is spiritual work and therefore riddled with emotion. I wish Dr. Phil would have spent more time talking with the stay-at-home dad in the audience who disagreed with Grant because then the viewing audience might have gotten the idea that staying at home with children is one of the hardest jobs on the planet!  I have had the pressures of a full-time job most of my life and am now staying home with my children.  It is much more trying than I would say, most jobs except brain surgery.  This couple needs a gender role reversal.  My guess is that Grant would be cured of this "expectation" disease after a month of being the stay-at-home parent.  The bigger gender issue I referred to earlier, though, makes me think that Grant would never "demean" himself enough to stay home with the children.  Even now, and with more fathers choosing to stay home with children, it is so sorely looked upon in our culture and not supported by the larger society.  When you are home you are isolated and removed from all of the added benefits of the workplace like recoginition for good work, raises, praise and bonuses.  Have to go, my baby is crying!  Oh, and you never get to finish anything you start unless you're willing to ignore your children's needs and I am not.  Something to think about.
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:29 pm PST

Mommy Myth

I am reading a book for one of my graduage English classes called The Mommy Myth. This book discusses the role that the media has played in the creation of our image of a mother. The images that we see portrayed around us about what a wife/mother is are unrealistic.  

  

Realistically, mothers/women cannot be all things to all people. I am a mother, a wife, a student, an employee...and if I play all of these roles there are things that just simply do not get done. As I sit in my living room, right now, I see laundry that needs to be done and some that needs to be put away. I see toys the kids haven't picked up and that frankly if it means I have to do it they will just sit there. I see my husband's shoes and the trash that he didn't take out. I see the dishes from dinner last night because frankly, I was too tired to load the dishwasher. It used to bother me...because I grew up with a mom who cooked the meals and did the laundry and helped us with our homework...but I had to learn that I cannot do it all...all by myself. If I want to help the kids with homework, bring home a paycheck, take grad classes, then some things get pushed to the side....like laundry, cooking, dusting, etc.  

  

In my dream world, I would get all of the chores done, cook all the meals, and still have the energy to sit in the floor with my kids and play. I would succeed in business and my marriage would be the envy of everyone. BUT....that is only a dream. Instead, I look around at chores to be done and hope no one stops by for a visit.  

  

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February 21, 2006, 2:29 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

I just watched the show and I feel so bad for this couple. Grant who has such unrealistic views of what a wife should be and for Kelly who trying so hard to be the perfect wife. Look at the important things and count your blessings. You both have your health and your children are healthy. Don't waste your time on trivial things like an organized closet! Hug your kids and eachother. What do think you will remember at the end of your life the clean toilets or the story of your son riding his bike down the sidewalk naked? What memory will make you smile?
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:29 pm PST

I know how she feels....

 My husband is a perfectionist, and I am not. And I do feel like I did when I was living under my fathers roof, so I'm beginning to wonder if we are in a "Parent/Child relationship?, and how to fix it...and what book to get, to work on that problem. We have been married for almost 6 yrs. Haven't had sex in 2yrs.  I really don't know what to do. Do you know what he was fussing about yesterday? How much laundry detergent I use?????  (guess why I picked my username) We use the cheapest brand there is. I don't cook,because I feel like I am being watched,like I might accidently get a hair in it or something. It's like if he can't see something, he will go and find something, to fuss about. I sure wish he would have watched the Dr. Phil show today , but he thinks he's a "nut". OH , but get this, he watched yesterday's show, about   "Are you a "B"   , yes he was willing to sit and watch that one. I feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. My shoulders just crawl, when he walks thru the room and I feel like I must get up and "do something" even though I have already been doing something.(I have to pace myself, due to the fact I have tension headaches and migraines and fibromyalgia ect.) Which he knew all this before we got married. He complains because I have to take medication, but my gosh, if I wasn't so stressed......... and the money situation, well thats a long, long story. And I've complained enough.....         tomuchsoap
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:29 pm PST

Wear the Ring!

 My husband and I have been married for seven years, and though we have had our ups and downs, we have both made sacrifices and "given in" to each other.  There are things he does that drive me nuts and things I do that nearly drive him insane.  I am saying this because as I have been told by wiser ones that myself, marriage is a give and take bond.  You must be willing to take criticism, if you are going to give it.  You must be willing to make sacrifices if you are going to expect your spouse to do make sacrifices.   

  

It seems to me that Grant feels resentment for his wife and won't wear his ring because to some extent, he feels in superior to his wife.  Perhaps he sees her faults and "imperfections, " and doesn't recognize that his own faults and "imperfections" are what he is really resenting.  He possibly sees how happy she is with herself and believes he isn't living up to her expectations.   

  

I feel sorry for Kelly, because I know how badly it hurts to think that you are not living up to your husband's expectations.  Kelly has to be satisfied with her choices and be proud of herself for being such a strong woman.  Grant has a lot of growing to do.  The first step, I believe, to making his marriage happier, more peaceful, and fulfilling is to put his ring back on! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

Grant, I hope you read this......

Many years ago, I struggled with not accepting how everything was in my life.  About 15 or more years ago I ran across a quote that gradually changed my life (quote to follow).  I kept a copy in my daytimer and read it....at first several times a day, until I started living it.  I hope this helps you as well.  Oh, BTW, I still carry it with me. 

  

Attitude

  

 

  

 

“The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life.  Attitude, to me, is more important than facts.  It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do.  It is more important than appearance, giftedness, or skill.  It will make or break a company…a church…a home.  The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day.   We cannot change our past…we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way.  We cannot change the inevitable.  The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude.  I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.   And so it is with you…we are in charge of our Attitudes.”

  

 

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

bravo ................................

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I watched today's show with some interest.  I'm a former Active Duty Air Force member who has since moved on into the world of commercial industry.  What I found so fastenating about Grant was the way he described his marriage like a military organization.  Comments like, 'rising to her potential,' etc., made me laugh.  I have to wonder if Grant realizes that when he leaves the job, he is not Sergeant Grant such and such or Officer Grant such and such and his wife is not his subordinate, but his partner.  

  

My husband joined the military much later than I did and unlike me, remains a part of the military to this day.  For many years I out ranked him.  I made the most money (I do now).  The bottom line was and is, that no matter what uniform I wear outside my home, inside my home I'm a woman first, a wife second, then a mother, teacher, writer, and lazy bee.   

  

No, there is no such thing as Wonder Woman.  You can't have the perfect house, the perfect children, and the perfect marriage.  Not unless you've got a great deal of help.  I think my marriage is just about as close to perfect as you can get, but that's because my husband cooks and I do dishes (or vice versa), he washes clothes and I fold, the kids put them away.  I mow the lawn, he edges it, the kids pick up the leaves, weeds, and anything else.  We are partners in and out of our home.   

  

There is much to be said for united we stand, divided we fall.  Perhaps Grant should go back to basic training and remember the traits the military instills - team work, God, esprite de corp.  The key to being a good leader "Grant" is being a good follower - or did you miss that lesson? 

  

Sydney 

and thank you so much.  It's nice to see there are people who really understand what a marriage is really suppose to be.  And can't you just imagine having "the perfect house, the perfect children, and the perfect marriage" being the MOST boring thing?  I think the most important is that regardless of the roles &/or the division of chorse you're working as a couple or a team or as partners.  And yes you're right "united we stand, divided we fall"  and unless Grant gets on the same page & starts at least TRYING to give what his wife needs they will fall.   

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

there is no control

What was weird about the whole thing is that Grant just couldn't get it.  He reminds my of a person with all smarts and no common sense.  It's either black or white and just no grey at all.  There are no perfect people, there are no perfect marriages.  It's an ability of what you can put up with from your life partner.  Just because you get married doesn't mean it's a prison sentence.  It means sharing your life with your best friend.  If all you want out of life is door mat then buy you one.  Don't trade another persons feelings for you to be satisfied.  My husband is my best friend.  I don't him no or you can't, or cut him to the bone.  This is my third marriage and his second.  It took a while to figure out that there was love and understanding and it wasn't what they could get from me.  That's why I am on my third.  Baggage?  Not really, I can't compare at all, And that's great.  It's hard to love when it's one sided.  And that is what I see here.  It has to be his way so he won't loose that control.
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

children should be 1st priority

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How did your kids turn out if they were your third priority? My mother left my father when she was pregnant with me and had a 2 year old child because he was a lying abusive alcoholic. She then when to university in order to get a better job to support us on her own. There are priorities. I have no idea where or what I would be if it weren’t for her putting her children before herself or her husband. 

You are exactly right.  If you don't put your children first, they know it and grow to resent you.  Thank you for saying exactly what I was thinking.
 
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