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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 2:51 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: mallory86

How did your kids turn out if they were your third priority? My mother left my father when she was pregnant with me and had a 2 year old child because he was a lying abusive alcoholic. She then when to university in order to get a better job to support us on her own. There are priorities. I have no idea where or what I would be if it weren’t for her putting her children before herself or her husband. 

 It's not that you don't love your kids all the same but the Bible says that order in the household is God, spouse, children ,others and then yourself. In your situation it worked out best for your mother to put you all first but not all households are the same. I live the same way and my kids are not slighted in anyway. God bless you.
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

Partners and titles

Dear Dr. Phil, 

  

           I am an avid watcher and proponent of your show. The following comments are in particular to Grant and Kelly. The main thing I walked away with is that there is an underlying misunderstanding of title and role in this relationship and a unrealistic or skewed view of what they entail. Wife and Husband are but mere titles of spouses in a marriage. Roles, however, are specific of what they do daily, separately and together. There is great significance in both but they are defined quite differently. Domestic life titles are given to define gender but also carry a great meaning of how important our life's partner is to us. Life roles, on the other hand, define what part we play in our family. The confusion comes in as people mash them into one meaning. Wife does not automatically mean home maker or care giver, just as Husband does not automatically mean bread winner or work horse. If you assume the role then LIVE IT. Don't just "play house". Taking care of chores is a family thing. Especially as the children get older. Daily duties are defined by lifestyle. Don't expect your home maker to magically be able to handle everything alone. If you expect to live a certain way, be a part of the dirty work or your just there for the ride. Having input into your home and how it is run is important. It is what makes your family function as a whole unit. The same goes for the spouse who works outside of the home. Every job has it's pros and cons and we all need support, love and an ear to vent to. Make yourself available to your spouse. Take time to socialize. Say hello when they come in. Sit and chat a few minutes. The house isn't going to run away. Making life a little easier at home should not be a chore. It is HOME, our sanctuary. The one place we should be able to get away from the "grind" of everyday. This isn't even to mention if BOTH partners work outside the home. The key is to remember, your stay at home partner only gets to leave their "work environment" to run errands, shop, socialize or what ever. You get to leave work behind, they are at work 24/7. So, it would be a reality that your stay at home partner might not be happy with the fact that you come home and get to unwind no matter what and he or she has to keep going. Maybe even after your in bed for the evening. That can be the seed of resentment that can be further fertilized by miscommunication and loneliness on both parts. The best way to find out what is so hard and enjoyable about each other's role is to live it WITH them. When you do that, you also get to see what makes it wonderful to be them. It can also remind you of  why you are with them in the first place. Nothing is perfect and everything takes work, but, life and love and family should not feel like a chore. Dr. Phil is VERY correct that everything is a choice and the only thing you can control is you. Live life while your alive and love as much as you can. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

I am saddened by the unrealistic expectations of Grant and the burden of guilt that places on his wife.  My husband and I have been married 37 years, and have raised two wonderful, responsible,  successful children.  I worked outside of the home part of the time and was a stay at home mom part of the time.  I am so grateful that my husband sees our marriage as teamwork.  He never hesitates to pitch in and help out.  Life is about relationship, family and love, and happiness-----not about perfect homes, perfect wives and perfect lives.  I am so grateful also that years ago I came to the understanding, as Dr. Phil stated today, that, in the end,  I am only responsible for one person's thoughts, actions, expectations, job performance, and response to others and that is me.  I have come to see that as a gift---I barely have time to be accountable for myself much less my husband.  We also are responsible to how we react to others.  Others don't make us act in any particular manner.  We choose our responses.  Does Grant value a welcome home kiss at the door or a perfect house and an exhausted, sad wife at the door.  Grant has to make some choices for himself, not for his wife.
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

things won't always go his way like it or not

 I think that Grant is insane if he think a wife is suppose 2 b a machine that does his every bidding. That is not what a wife is at all. I understand that he wants to come home to a nice nest clean house with supper on the table and wife and children greeting him at the door  but this is not the1950's Leave it to Beaver and other such shows. Snap into reality dude.  Trust me though, every man AND women wants that but it ain't happening.  I don't blame Kelly for not wanting to go places and do things with him. I wouldn't either.  He basically said himself he won't wear his wedding band until she's perfect (aka the exact way he wants her to be and nothing else).  i was glad to see he is trying to change but he needs a WHOLE LOT of work.  Don't get me wrong, there are probably some things she needs to change, also, but his are a whole lot bigger.  The "IT" that he does not get is called companionship, compliments, and emotional feelings, and understanding. Trying to be the master or teacher is not what she or enyone is looking for in a marriage or any kind of realationship.  Like you said Dr. Phil he needs to relax and un knot himself. A dirty house or late supper is not the end of the world as he kinows it.
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

    I just want to say to Kelly that if you have doing all of this and he still hasn't been happy than it is truly up to him to change his mindset.  Like Dr. Phil said, it is not what you are doing it's just up to him.  He has to CHOOSE to be happy with you.  It stinks because you almost wonder what to do to make it better, but I don't think that there is a whole lot you can do.  I mean if he is so concerned about the kitchen cabinets and everything being orgagnized, choose a day where you are both off and orgagnize everything together.  Then you will know what he likes and he will feel satisfied too.   

     And Grant, well I give you a lot of credit for going on the show, well I give both of you a lot of credit.  But I can't even begin to tell you how I would feel if my husband wouldn't wear his wedding ring.  I would feel horrible.  The whole thing that you are going through is part of marriage.  That is what the ring represents.  No marriage is perfect and you will always have to work with each other.  Even if my husband and I are mad at each other we know what our rings represent to each other.  And I don't think that your wife could do anything to make you happy.  It truly is in your mind set and what you CHOOSE to feel.  Where would you be without her?  If you learn to appreciate the things that she already does and the effort she makes than you will probably feel better.  I think people are together a while and they don't appreciate each other as much.  It sounds like you have a wonderful wife that just wants to be accepted by you.  I hope that you two can work things out!  You guys seem like you go well together. 

God Bless 

Kristina 

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:54 pm PST

Wife of Noble Character

Dr Phil, 

If Grant is a believer, maybe he needs to read Proverbs 31:10-31 in regards to a wife of noble character. 

  

A wife of noble character who can find? 

  She is worth far more than rubies. 

  Her husband has full confidence in her 

 and lacks nothing of value.   

She brings him good, not harm,  

all the days of her life. 

She selects wool and flax 

and works with eager hands. 

She is like the merchant ships, 

bringing her food from afar. 

She gets up while it is still dark; 

she provides food for her family 

and portions for her servant girls. 

She considers a field and buys it; 

out of her earnings she plants a vineyard. 

She sets about her work vigorously; 

her arms are strong for her tasks. 

She sees that her trading is 

profitable, 

and her lamp does not go out at night. 

In her hand she holds the distaff 

and grasps the spindle with her fingers. 

She opens her arms to the poor 

and extends her hands to the 

needy. 

When it snows, she has no fear for  

her household; 

for all of them are clothed in 

scarlet. 

She makes coverings for her bed; 

she is clothed in fine linen and 

purple, 

Her husband is respected at the city 

gate, 

where he takes his seat among the  

elders of the land. 

She makes linen garments and sells 

them, 

and supplies the merchants with 

sashes. 

She is clothed with strength and 

dignity; 

she can laugh at the days to 

come. 

She speaks with wisdom, 

and faithful instruction is on her tongue. 

She watches over the affairs of her 

 household 

and does not eat the bread of  

idleness. 

Her children arise and call her 

 blessed; 

Her husband also, and he praises her; 

Many women do noble  

things, 

but you surpass them all; 

Charm is deceptive, and beauty is 

fleeting, 

but a woman who fears the Lord is 

to be praised 

Give her the reward she has earned,  

and let her works bring her praise 

at the city gate. 

  

Maybe Grant needs to know that his wife may be of noble character even without organizing the closets to his liking or the way she positions the furniture.  I think that Kelly should also know that her nobility is far more important that his silly ideas of the perfect Stepford Wife. 

I feel that her self esteem and confidence are in grave danger here.  If she is trying to work hard and keeping her "house in order" then that should be acknowledged as an accomplishment.  Grant needs to give her the respect and praise of being a wife of noble character.   

As far as Grant not wearing his wedding ring, I think that Grant is not being honest with himself.  He probably dosen't want to acknowledge that he is either interested in someone else or is measuring his wife up against someone else or to other women.  He should be honest with his wife because there is no explaining the wedding ring thing away.  There is no justification for that.  I just hope that Kelly does not think less of herself simply because she has been convinced by her husband that she is less than what she should be. 

  

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:54 pm PST

What is REALLY going on?!?!

Grant & Kelly.... My feelings really go out to Kelly for putting up with such a stubborn husband... Grant is set on the fact that all of their problems are her fault... Surely he knew how she was before they were ever married, where her priorities lied between chores, and family. She seems to keep up on the house work, but not in an imaculent kinda way... Face it how many housewives, do premature maintenance on the household appliances, and organize furniture to a T, yet still look like a Barbie.... Grant needs to get it together before he loses a very wonderful woman.. Oh yeah.. and put on his wedding ring before she decides to take off hers.... That is SO disrespectful!!1
 
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February 21, 2006, 2:54 pm PST

Wifestyles

I was surprised with today show of Dr Phil ....I didn't realize there are husbands out there! like that!  I was wondering just what kind of bringing up this husband had.   When I was married it was a 50 / 50 and sometimes one spouse had to do more than the other around the house and we both worked full time at our jobs.......I must admit I missed the first show.  Interested in the feedback on the message board.....oh by the way I am divorced and that wasn't the reason we divorced.  

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:55 pm PST

Two people One union

Quote From: rndykes

  

My husband and I have been married for 6 short years.  When we first got married I did not know how to be a wife and he did not know how be a husband.  With a lot of compromise and communication we came up with our own roles.  Sometimes he cooks, cleans and does the laundry, awesome.  And sometimes I would mow the yard and take out the trash.  Neither of us could cook very well, we would make Ds for sure.  We both work so that may affect my point of view.  Needless to say we both can cook, both can clean, both can take care of the kids. My point is we both entered into our marriage as a team and we complete the household duties as a team.  This makes both of us happy.  Thank you for letting me share my thoughts. Nikki D 

I think if more couples approached thier marriages as has this couple our divorce rate would drop considerably. Pwolff 

 
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February 21, 2006, 2:55 pm PST

Kelly and Grant

After watching today's show, it made me so angry to see Kelly still trying to live up to her husband's crazy expectations.  Kelly, to be honest I'm shocked your still with him.   You are such a great person and your husband is such a disappointment.  I would have left him a long time ago. 

The truth is, he is never going to change.  And I was also so disappointed that Dr Phil didn't tell Grant, where to go and how to get there.  And the wedding ring.  How did you let him get away with that?  I understand it takes a lot to go on stage, but I truly don't believe Grant wants to change.  Especially when Grant's last comments on the show were, " He doesn't want to hurt his wife, because if he does, she won't perform as well.  Are you kidding me?  Why did he marry her?  To be his maid?  Does he even love her?  Why isn't he in therapy?    And Kelly's spirit is so broken.  There is nothing wrong with Kelly.  It's Grant's problem.  He doesn't deserve her and doesn't appreciate her.  Why even try.  If after all this time, if Grant doesn't get "it" he never will.  Walk away and find someone who will love you for who you truly are, and will wear there wedding ring with pride.   

 
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