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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Your mother was putting her priorities in the right place.

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How did your kids turn out if they were your third priority? My mother left my father when she was pregnant with me and had a 2 year old child because he was a lying abusive alcoholic. She then when to university in order to get a better job to support us on her own. There are priorities. I have no idea where or what I would be if it weren’t for her putting her children before herself or her husband. 

A decision such as the one your mother made was the correct one, and it was the one that reflected proper priorities.  How do I know?  God doesn't condone abuse.  God didn't want her to stay in a marriage with a man who was abusing her.  And it wouldn't have been the best thing for your father for her to have stayed either.  She did what was best for him, although he probably didn't see things that way.  If he had, he would have gotten help, straightened up and gotten his family back.  Having proper priorities doesn't always mean that you decide to stay in a bad situation
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Successful Marriage

Successful marriages are where each partner gives more than 50%. A good rule of thumb is each partner should give 100%. Sure that adds up to 200%, but sometimes that is what it takes. Especially in the home. I would never expect my wife to help me at work (when I was working), but I always expected to go home and help with the dishes, vacuuming, cleaning, sewing, or whatever else was required. Your wifestyle couples are very unrealistic. They should learn the Golden Rule. They should treat their spouse as they would want to be treated. That can seldom leave either disappointed. Thanks, That's my 2 cents
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

this man is awful

who does he think he is. If he loved this woman, the mother of his child. He would understand who she is. He just knows critiscism and control. Throw the wedding band out right in front of him.  

She does not know she is being controlled. She is very ignorant to the fact she should not be manipulated 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Switch roles

 Why don't you teach the guy the only way ---he'll learn.  Have him do it for a week or so and then be critical of all his short comings.   The woman is so broke down she actually believes this pain in the butt of a man (?) (man I mean.....he's not)  His parents must have treated him this way?  Is his father in the military I wonder?   This guy doesn't know how lucky he is that she is still with him.  And what about the kids, the next generation will continue this way of life.....please no.  stop this couple before they reproduce this in their kids marriage 10 years down the road.    And the wedding rind off, what a crock...   what kind of flag does this woman need????   
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Wifeschool?

I can so relate to Kelly and how Grant treats her.  He isn't perfect, why does he think she should be?  Maybe Grant should go to "Husband School"!   Because it seems like he wants a housekeeper, not a wife.  He obviously still doesn't get "it", which is that marriage is about love and respect as well as acceptance!  Grant shows no respect for Kelly and what her role in his life should be since she has had children.   If I seem hostile it is because, like Kelly, I love a man who shows me little respect.  And my self-esteem has suffered for it.  But I am still willing to put up with it because there are times I see the man I pledged to love forever!  And that happens often enough to keep trying!  But one thing we do agree upon is that as long as I have made an honest effort, if he doesn't like how well something is cleaned or organized, he does it his way by himself.  He's doesn't criticize me, he just does it, and in return I do not take offense to him 'redoing' what I just did!  The philosophy is, in other words, if you don't like how I did it, shut up and do it yourself!! 

 

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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Different era of being a "wife"

Well, I've always said that the reason they'll never legalize gay marriage is that millions of working mothers would wake up one day and realize that they did not need a husband -they need a wife!  (LOL) 

  

We live in an era where the definition of being a "wife" is unclear and society sends incredibly mixed messages.  I think today there is more emphasis on moms "doing it all" AND doing it all better than everyone else.  (I have friends who complain that mothers seem hellbent on outdoing each other in the most superficial ways - the most elaborate, handmade valentines with homemade cookies or the best soccor game snacks or whatever).  I work outside the home (as does my husband), yet still feel somehow inadequate when I don't have dinner on the table when my husband gets home because that is what a "good wife" would do.   

  

The reality is that the family unit needs to prioritize - if a clean house is important, hire a maid to come in one day a week; if gourmet meals are important, find someone who will prepare meals in advance and freeze them.   If outside help isn't an option, there need to be choices made - if Grant had the choice of a clean house or well-raised children, which would he choose?  A clean house or a gourmet meal?  Organized closets or decorated house?   

  

Or Grant could realize that, although his wife stays at home, he could always participate - if a clean house is important to him, he could clean house on the weekend - or cooking and freezing meals on the weekend.  (When I was growing up, my working mom would put the whole family to work cleaning house for two hours on Saturday morning - including my dad - and with everyone's help, it got done.)   lts about priorities and what you are prepared to do to achieve those things that are important to you.  And if all these things are critically important to Grant, he should take responsibility for achieving those things.   

  

My final note is that everything you want is available - for a price.  If you want an immaculately clean house, you can pay money to get that.  If you want gourmet meals, again, you can pay money to get that.  You want your wife to be sexy when you get home, hire a sitter and send her to the spa for the day.  Perhaps the solution would be for Grant to make enough (more) money to pay for all the things he wants - from outside sources.  And incidentally, in some ways Grant should be careful what he wishes for - gourmet meals, sexy outfits and elaborate decor do not come cheap.  I suspect that if Grant got some of those things, he'd be on one of the shows complaining that his wife was spending too much money! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

Can Grant Learn to Say "Thank You" and HELP OUT?

Grant needs to learn what a simple "Thank You" can do!  Instead of only seeing the things that are not done right, say "THANK YOU KELLY" for whatever WAS done - even if it's not perfect!!!  A bit of appreciation and acknowlegement for Kelly's effort would be an amazing gift to her.  A helping hand would not hurt either. 

  

I am a stay at home mom of 4, including twin boys.  In the early years I was lucky if I managed to get a shower and dressed in something other than my PJ's, let alone prepare a "suitable" meal.  Kelly is right in keeping the kids her number one priority.  What good is the perfect house if the kids are neglected, or get kidnapped or injured while they are riding their bike naked down the street while she was busy cleaning the bathroom?  Has Grant ever spent a day home taking care of the kids?  Does he have ANY CLUE what a challenge it is to keep three kids safe, fed, clean, dressed and happy? 

  

Has Grant  ever thought to help Kelly organize the pantry, or, God forbid, done it himself?  My guess is that he feels this would be "beneath him."  How sad for both of them. 

  

I hope Grant figures out before it's too late that marriage is a partnership, not a dictatorship.  He's blessed that Kelly has even stayed with him this long.   

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

What do you think is the role of the wife?

I think the role of a wife is to be happy with themselves.  If a wife is not happy then, like Dr. Phil says, if MaMa ain't happy nobody is happy. 

  

The wife is there to support their husbands and their children and in return their support is expected.  I remember when I started college, I was 28 and the baby was starting school.  I was afraid and my husband really didn't want me to enroll, but I did it for me.  When I finally graduated and was able to bring a better income into the house, my husband finally realized I did the right thing.  I have been happier since I attended college and so I think everyone was rewarded because my attitude was better. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

Kelly and Grant

I watched the show today and am saddened by Grant's behavior.  I was "the perfect wife and mother". I also worked fulltime, but worked the night shift as a nurse so my husband's life would not be rocked by any means. He always had his laundry done, three course meals prepared and a glass of tea poured and ready for him to pick up the minute he came in the door.  I made the "extra" money that enabled him to always drive new trucks, have deer leases every year and go on vacations to where he wanted to and spend as much money has he so desired on other activities.  What all this sacrificing on my part got me was divorced after 34 years of marriage when I quit work to care for our grandson.  When the extra money quit........so did he and our marriage ended quickly.  He is living with his rich mother and continues doing all the things and more that he wants to do.  So my message to Kelly is...........do what makes you happy, be the best mother you can be and if Grant doesn't approve of how you do it........TOUGH.  Marriage should not be for ones who give all the time and for ones who take all the time.  I had to learn the hard way.  My advice to Kelly is to  find out what her husband really wants from her in their marriage and if she is unable to fullfill his idea of a "wife"...get out now before she wastes anymore of her life being so unhappy, frustrated and humiliated.  Life is too short.  As far as Grant not wearing his wedding ring, I would go pawn the thing and buy  something for myself.  Apparently he doesn't think enough of it to wear it anyway.  He has so much to learn in life and he should start by  learning not to sweat the small stuff and be grateful he has a wife that loves him enough to work on their relationship and endure his impossible expectations.  Dr. Phil, have  you ever told Grant that if Kelly isn't happy.....no one is going to be happy???????
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

TEAMWORK

The couple on the show today seems to be lost as newly weds after 7 years but the mature level that they are approaching this situation and accepting it as a problem you might think they were married longer.  Neither the wife or the husband seemed to be a terrible person...so I say keep up the good work and eventually they will find a happy relationship and balance they both can live with.  Just dont give up.

As for marriage Im not so expierenced... 1year this past weekend.  Not only has it been only one year but that first  7months we didn't live together because of the situation we had with the military.  Now most people know that the military expects more of people than normal.  This should not reflect on your spouse.  If you are making the money or most of it for the household does not give you the right to set certain expectations for your spouse.  If the kids are running around naked when you get home but the house is dirty.  Let your spouse dress the kids and you start cleaning or cooking whatever needs to get done.  Just because you left your job for the day doesn't mean your work is done.   

  

Whether you have kids or not a family is an extremely close knit team and requires team work to get the job done.  This shouldnt seem like a suprise when the Marine Corps...the number one fighting force in the world (not by opinion but by record and reputation) uses team work 24/7 every single day of the year.   

  

Im not sure if I am completely right but I guess my opinion is that if you love each other then you should love to work together whether it be cleaning, cooking, or under the sheets...lol.  Have a Great Day. 

 
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