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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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Oh' my god................... 

This can't be true... please tell me it's not true. If I don't stack my dishes in the correct and proper manner my children will become just another statistic? They will be welfare dependant and living in subsidized housing? 

Well, we can't have that now can we..............master? 

 Bravo!!

Anyone see "Sleeping With The Enemy"  with Julia Roberts?  He had something in common with Grant as far as the condition of the home and quality of the meals expectations.   If the cans in the cupboard weren't not only stacked properly and with the Front of the labels showing, or the towels weren't hung evenly....watch out.   Unfortunately I don't think Grant "got it" when Dr. Phil tried, and tried to enlighten him.  He most likely feels that if he doesn't criticize, then after awhile she WILL BE PERFECT!!   As far as I could tell, there home wasn't a total disaster, full of junk and no pathway to walk in.  His complaints are beyond petty and critical.  They're demeaning.  And insulting.  Demoralizing. 

What a sad, sad example of a husband.  Why is it so important to him that everything measures
 up to His standards?   He seems such a control freak that I feel a lot of empathy for Kelly.  Another thought...why does he feel He's such a prize?  If I were ever given a list of 75 things that I apparently didn't measure up to, I'd be out the door in a flash.    And as far as Grant not wearing his wedding ring,  if he were my son I'd ream him up one side and down the other. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: suzala

Well Dr.Phil-I have been married 30 years and have had up's in down's with what my husband thinks a prefect wife should be. I was not one of them. I put most of my time into my kids. He did'nt understand then but realizes now that that was a good thing for them as adults. But I think for the first 15-20 years of a marrage a husband never feels like he has a great wife that does not disapoint him when there is children involved. It is hard to put you husband first all the time when there are children inthe house. A man thinks he is getting married and is going to have all the sex he wants and live in a nice clean house forever and ever. Well children are thrown into the picture and wala sex is gone and the house is messy all the time. Tell your unhappy husband, if he does not screw up his marrage and keeps a good relationship with his wife, in a few years when children are grown and he will get what he always wanted. A loving wife and a clean house and sex. He will just have to waite a while before he gets everything he wants. Be patent
 I have to disagree! A family is a functioning unit and it cannot function if one piece is left behind, even if it's just for a "few years." It's all about balance otherwise there won't be anything left when the children are grown. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

The role of a wife....

I would like to comment on what I feel the role of a wife should be. I feel that women base the role of a wife to much on what society  thinks a wife should be. The stereotypical wife of the 60's... a wife who cooks cleans ect.... Do people know what year we are living in?? It is the year 2006!! What ever happened to women standing up for themselves and being noticed and having equal rights as a man. I think it is nice that women want to stay home and be a full time parent. I am all for that. But who is a man to say how we run a household. When you enter into a marriage is it not for better or for worse? If a relationship has gone through the proper courtship of getting to know one another, why do people enter the marriage thinking that it will change eachother? This is still the same person before you were married. I feel that when you marry someone that you are also saying that you are accepting this person as they are and don't expect them to change. If there is going to be change in the marriage that it is called growth in the marriage. And growth in the marriage is a healthy thing because everyday should be a learning experience.  

I have been married for almost two years but have been with my husband for going onto four years. We lived together for a year and a half before we got married. If I felt at anytime that he did not accept the way I ran a household or cooked meals then I would not have agreed to marry him. In our marriage it is 50/50. We both work, not always at the same time. My husband takes the role of cooking, cleaning, doing the laundry and taking care of the kids. We share in this experience together and we learn from eachother. If I am working he is home doing the housework and if I am home I do the housework. We base it on whoever is at home at the time will do the workload. I am on maternity leave right now and my husband is working and going to school so I am home right now doing the cooking and cleaning and looking after the kids. He does what he can to pitch in. This is fine with me, but there is a give and a take in the marriage. We thrive on the growth of one another, we compliment eachothers strengths and encourage eachothers accomplishments. This is what I believe a marriage to be based on.  

One the show Grant does not wear his wedding ring. I do not feel that he answered Dr. Phil's question on why he does not wear it. I think the question he should have been asked "Is he having an affair?" or "Is he thinking about having an affair?" You enter into a marriage for better or for worst and his reason in my opinion is not good enough. I don't ever remember reading a book anywhere on how to be a perfect wife! What is a perfect wife? I think that the learning experience in a marriage should be done together.  After you have children they are the center of your world. You make the choice to be that at home mother and your husband may agree to this, so why not go through the experience together. Take cooking classes together or whatever else. I know that this might not be your ideal way to spend time together but you make that choice once you have a family and your priorities change. This does not mean that you and your husband should not spend romantic evenings together, it just means that the kind and amount of time you spend together changes according to the situation you are in. My husband and I know that after the children are old enough to look after themselves we will be able to spend all the time in the world with eachother. We cherish any moment we have together whether it be doing dishes or doing laundry together. I feel that life is what you make of it and I try to make the best out of any situation. I feel that there should be compromise in any situation and it should not just be the woman compromising with the man.  

 
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February 21, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

Exactly!

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I'm I the only one who thinks it's crazy that women are asking how to be a "good wife"! This whole idea of how the wife should keep the house and watch the children, look sexy, prepare all the meals, keep her man happy is pure insanity.  Everyone needs to stop, take a little breather and remember that we entered the title of "wife" and "husband" when we took our vows and I don't know about anyone else but my vows didn't include a list of chores or a major change in who I was as a person.  My vows included being a life time partner who would share all the trials and rewards of each day.  In my vows I agreed to monogomy, and a commitment to supporting my husband in being who he wanted to be and he did the same.   

  

The title wife and husband does not include a list of who does what as each relationship works differently.  I am currently a stay at home mom so I take care of the kids and house while my husband is at work, however when he is home then we split the chores and work as this is a 50 50 relationship.  We also support eachother in the things we need or want to do to feel good about ourselves.   

  

Grant is an idiot.  I can't believe that anyone would put up with what his wife does.  And as far as taking his ring off because "there are things in his relationship that make him uncomfortable"  Well that is a load of crap.  If my husband did that he could hit the side walk.  Plus lets get real here, why does a guy really take his ring off??? It doesn't take a genius to figure out he isn't faithful.   

  

  

The thing that amazes me about this whole debate is the idea that because one partner "goes to work" that means that on arriving home, that partner's responsibilities for the entire day have been fulfilled with the 8 hours spent in the office, or wherever.  Meanwhile, the stay-at-home partner is expected to be on call 24/7?  Why doesn't Kelly's work during the day count as her 8 hours - why can't Grant expect that he must put in equal effort in cooking/cleaning/childcare when he arrives home?  Does he think that his "work" is so much more important and valuable than hers that 8 hours, 5 days a week is equivalent to her 24 hours, 7 days a week?  When did we allow work in the home to be so horribly undervalued?  Why does Grant seem to think that his role in the home should be restricted to management?  Who died and made him boss? 

 

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February 21, 2006, 1:34 pm PST

What happened to unconditional love

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I have two thoughts on this couple.  One is that she will never make him happy.  She should quit trying.  He needs some serious counseling to deal with his own issues.  Second - They mentioned that he would like her to mow the yard in something a little sexy.  If she has children at home too young to be in school, she has no business mowing the yard.  The children would be left unattended.  I didn't mow the yard for the first 15 years of my marriage.  The grass did just fine.

I think Grant forgot about unconditional love. There are so many more important things in life than a little dust and a dishes in the sink. He has taken away any self worth that she had prior to this dreadful marriage. I feel bad for the kids because there doesn't appear any love from them to model thier lives after. 

I couldn't image being so unhappy in a marriage like she is. I would go insane. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

You have got to be kidding me!

I have never felt so compelled to give my opinion on a show as I do about Grant and his conceitedness. I can't believe he actually thinks he is so great  a person that the woman he is suppose to love and cherish should serve  him like a slave just  to satisfy  his obsessive compulsive behavior. What happiness is he giving to her? How can he not see that he has such deep seeded issues from sometime during his life and that he needs serious therapy so that his poor children don't end up as dysfunctional as he is. For being so educated, Grant needs to read up on physiology and see the long term detrimental effects he could have on his children if he continues with this behavior. Come on, talk to your partner about important things such as retirement, vacations, education for your children. I can’t believe that craziness you are worrying about when there is so much more in this world you could use your brain for.  What do you do besides going to work that helps the family? I bet not much. Makes me appreciate my husband sooo much.
The big question here how in 2006 we went backwards in time to think that a woman is only smart enough to clean houses and pick out pink curtains. I am all for staying home and raising children but trying to make everything perfect for the hubby? Wow! Please tell me that women aren’t falling for this.  My first question would be, did Kelly know he was like this when she married him?
I sure hope Grant can change for the children’s sake and that Kelly realizes how important it is that he does. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

leave the jerk!!!!!

Just a note Kelly.....If he cannot respect you for who you are and see what you do on a daily basis,,,regardless if that is UP to his expectations,,,you should pack up the kids and leave his sorry butt!!!! You are TOO good for him and to sit back and let him treat you the way he does is only bringing you down...... Does he think he is better than you????   Well, show him what child support feels like and then go find yourself a REAL man that will treat you like the woman that you deserve to be treated.... I have been married for 26 years and like Dr. Phil says,,,,,,It  takes 2,,,,and Grant isn't even an eighth of it!!!!!!!!!
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

In a perfect world

Quote From: catzami

Well, Dr. Phil asked...be careful of what you ask for.  My definition of a wife, especially a full time housewife, is to manage all aspects of the household and I do mean ALL aspects.  In my home, I do everything.  I cook, clean, do laundry, scrub bathrooms, shovel the snow, mow the lawn, tend to the flowers, do the shopping ( to include buying his clothing), and manage our household finances.  The only responsibilities my husband has is to go to work, which he absolutely loves, let the dog out to potty when he is home and take the trash out.  Now I know there are some that will be up in arms about my definition but it seems to work in my house.  Come on ladies, I have it made....I don't go to work, I do not have children, and I control the money (oh yes, HE gets the allowance).    
Is your name perhaps "Martha Stewart"?    A big part of you doing so much is that you don't have children.  It is much more difficult to handle things with small children running around.  Also, I feel that your husband should AT LEAST do the outside stuff (mow grass, etc) 
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

I hurt so much for this wife

Oh my goodness, I cried the first show and I am crying again. Kelly is so beautiful and sweet  but no matter what she does it appears to be the wrong thing/way. Grant Wake Up!! Don't allow petty things to ruin your relationship with such a good woman. FORGET THE "OUTTER THINGS" AND GRAB HOLD OF YOUR MARRIAGE BEFORE IT SLIPS AWAY!! No one is perfect, are you? What is it that your trying to prove? Put yourself in Kelly's shoes for just one day. Call me, I promise to put you down for 24 hours and let you see what it's like to be beated down emotionally, the way you do Kelly. Try this, Imagine your worst day at work, the day you've really messed up..that day you never want to do over... Now, imagine being in Kelly's shoes knowing that nothing is ever right.
Love yourself... the love for your wife should come easy.. Heck I love her already:)
 
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February 21, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

life of a house wife

I have been married for 3 years i have 2 children 3yrs. & 1yr. and my husband is in the army. I'm here to tell you it is hard as hell!! I juggle 2 kids, house chores, & cooking dinner. I always have it all done before 5:00 p.m. when my husband arrives home. For me, my husband has the weight of the world on his shoulders when he is at work , his job is defending  freedom. My husband is very supportive of me and helps me as much as possible but i don't feel he should have to worry about his family, America, and now Iraq. There are times I'm alone for twelve months at a time doing it all by myself. I don't think grant should be so controlling because it is hard to manage but at the same time i think we women depend on our husband to always be there to help or control the kids so we can have a ten minute break or pick up something at the grocery store on his way home or to just say hey don't forget to do this or call so and so but what about us that deal with life with out our husbands because they our defending freedom for you & me & all of America. what about the single moms, they have nobody. So yes husbands should not be controlling (my husband is far from it so i don't know how it feels) but i feel that they deserve the respect of a hot meal and a clean house to come home too. THATS THE JOB OF A HOUSEWIFE! 

 
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