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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PST

I can understand both sides

I can understand Kelly and Grant's views.  I am a daughter of an engineer and have many of the same qualities as Grant and my father: such as everything being logical, organized and have order.   I can also understand Kelly's side because it was very hard to live up to my father's expectations.  He would yell at us kids because the couch arm covers were crooked.  How stupid it was and not worth the energy or stress of our family.  I believe it helped my dad's elevated blood pressure, excess weight and even his migraines.  All have since disappears since he has learned to manage his expectations.     

  

So, Grant if you read this, there is hope for you, my dad is much much better and living a happier and healthier life.  If nothing else you are filling your life with stress non-the-less unhappiness.  Your family and yourself can suffer health problems from all this stress especially over little things.  There is a book that my dad recommended to me that helped him "Don't sweat the small stuff"  by Richard Carlson.  Many studies have been done on the affects of stress on the human body.  I believe I went into preterm labor because I couldn't control my stress levels.  You and your family could be at risk.  Your health and happiness is the most important. thing  When you walk the path of life you need to remember this and try to also maximize the joy of others in the process.   

  

Marriage to me means a commitment to a person.   You team up together for life.  You celebrate the victories together and challenge life together.  Someone who helps you become a better person by supporting you not by critizing.  Example:  Lets take this gourmet cooking seminar together (support), This chicken is boring, we had it last week (critic).  Communication is the most important thing in a relationship.  You also need to respect each other as individuals.  Example:  you don't like pink, she does.  What do you do?  Compromise.  She can design one room, you design another.  You have your manly room she has her girly room.  If you have to, keep common rooms neutral or compromise the amount or intensity of the color.     

  

My suggestion for you is to take a vacation out of your home.  Spend time finding out each other, talk about your goals together as individuals and as partners, and figure out how to achieve them together.   What are your hobbies?  Don't focus on you home, but your long term goals.  The location of the broom can wait.  Where are you two and your family going to be in five, ten and so on....years?  How are you going to both be happy and healthy?         

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:15 pm PST

Grant and Kelly

My jaw hit the floor when I saw the segment today - I couldn't wait to comment....not once did I hear that his "list" included spiritual connections, morals/values, intimacy (emotional and spiritual) - didn't hear mention of attendance at church or prayer together...what chance does that marriage have?????  I'm not trying to imply that the only marriages that will survive are those where couples are connected spiritually - however I know from experience that it is a HUGE help to have that connection and has gotten us through tough times.....
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

perfect wife

I can not believe the attitude of Grant. What I can't believe just as much is that she is still there putting up with it all. I'm certainly not an advocate of divorce, but.... I don't have children, but I work full time & I can't keep up with my housework. My husband has never said a word about how things are done. For the first probably 10-12 yrs we were married he did not help .He has in the last couple of yrs. really started to help out & I truly appreciate it. I have not asked him to do this either. I'm not sure what his motivation is. Anyhow, Dr. Phil ask folks to write in with their definition of the "perfect wife" I'm not sure what he's looking for. I don't think there is any such thing as achieving "perfect" I think as long as both partners are happy in the relationship & happy with how the household is ran, then that is what is perfect. If you can have harmony  & be happy, that is wonderful. Most of the time our house is in pretty good shape as far as clean goes. On the days that it isn't, I always remember what a roomate of mine used to say was her mother's attitude "It's good enough for the guy I go with!" I think that says it all!!!!
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

A friend of Grant and Kelly

I know Kelly and Grant and was not surprised that Grant is living in the 50's but I do know that he is a good man and he was raised by two great people that I also know and respect.  I just wanted it to be said and I hope Kelly has heard this, but she is amazing.  I've been to her house and We've worked together in church and have been friends for several years.  She's the sweetest kindest and most sincere person.  She's fun and a great mother.  From that I saw and tasted her house was always clean and decorated cute and her dinners where great.  We've moved away and I don't see her  but I appreciate her so much and hope that her and Grant can be happy.  She's wonderful.   

 

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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

What a Great Idea!

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 If that man expects his wife to be perfect, he should have to prove that it is possible first.  I think if he spent a week alone with the kids, with no one to help out he would see what a difficult job it is.  I have no idea how he expects her to complete 75 tasks and raise children.  Has he ever paid attention to what goes on around him?  I think Dr. Phil should make him do what she does for a week. If he can decorate, vacuum, disinfect the bathroom, mop, do laundry, organize closets, organize the linens, cook a four star meal, and watch the children, then maybe he would have a leg to stand on.  Somehow I doubt that he will be able to pull that miracle off.
Even more than a week - how about two?  And making sure the children are learning, happy and loved would be a major part of his responsibilities too.  Maybe he'd also see that their children are more precious than organized closets.  Basic cleanliness is one thing but he's way past that. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

Sick and tired

II for one am a little tired of the whole ruitine. I do not agree with practice of verbal abuse, or any abuse for that matter, of women. I do however do think that there are some things that, if a woman is a housewife, come with that responsibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to keep some level of decorum in your house. I beleive that the problem with these fine folks is more than just cleanliness. Sex most definetly plays a part. Countless episodes have featured women who have signifigantly reduced (usually with no emotion) or eliminated sex from their lives all together. Contrary to popular beleif, physical love IS A PART OF MARRIGE, and refusing to partake is just as much as an insult as some of the things I heard today. I think it quite conveinent that some of the things women get away with in life (male bashing) that men would be ridiculed for. I can't remember how many times I have listened to my wife's girlfreinds cluck over the faults of their husbands and their inadequacies, no matter what they are. This double standard in which women are consistantly vindicated and men are criminalized is absolutely aweful.
 

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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

She's his wife, not a racehorse! You'd think he bought her so he could win the gold for a perfect looking household and betty crocker in the kitchen. Or maybe he thinks she's a private in the ROTC and he's her seargent? Husband and Wife are partners and (listen up) on the same team. They are supposed to be each other's biggest fan, not harshest critic. OK sometimes our partners do something lazy or cause us some frustration, but I mean, this poor wife thinks her role in life is to show this man her love by trying her hardest to be the wife on his 75-point list.  

  

Doesn't she know, that no matter how "well" she does on this list, he will always find fault? He needs to feel like everything is in his control. His way of controlling her is to criticise her housekeeping and refuse to wear his wedding ring. Why does he need so much control? That's for his shrink to find out. Why does Kelly SAY good things like she uses her time the way she sees fit, and yet it's easy to see she bases her sense of self-worth mostly on how hubby "grades" her. 

  

Kelly is enabling her husband's disfunctional behavior. She needs to either help him see the folly in it, or get the heck out. Washers and dryers are going to break, no matter how well and often you clean the lint filter. It's ridiculous to think you can control that sort of minutia in your life, and enabling him to require that sort of "control" isn't helping him. 

  

Whew! I guess I felt strongly about this Dr. Phil show. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

What???!!!

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 I am actually in a class right now about marriage. The role of the wife is to be a helper and to be submissive. Now, I am not talking about being run over or trampled on. But it is our role to help our husbands. They are suppossed to be the providers and protectors and lots more, but it is our job to help them in any way we can. I DEFINATELY am not agreeing with Grant by any means. I just know that we as the wife and mother are suppossed to be their back bone and helper.

That is so 1950's!! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

Reading the signs

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Grant's not wearing his wedding ring?  That's not a good sign.
It is a good sign! But only if Kelly wants to read it. This man is unwilling to be married. He only wanted a mommy and a maid and for some reason, who knows how these things happen, he found a woman who loved him. He is incapable of loving in return, so he is sending out every signal for her to GET AWAY and find a real life with a real man. He is just too cowardly to admit it. So he takes off the ring... Now, while she is doing everything else and he is feeling resentful that she does not jump through his hoops fast enough or high enough... she can also do the work of hiring a lawyer and filing on his sorry ass. Cat
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:16 pm PST

Grant, you're going to lose her!

Grant, if you can't look at that incredibly beautiful red headed vision of "Oh MY God"  then she is wasting her life on you. 

  

Kelly, God is giving you lots of extra credit points for your patients with this thick headed jerk.  If you're not convinced everyday that you are the prize of his life, then move on. 

  

I am married to a very intelligent, beautiful, incredible woman that I love so dearly.  But like my father, she comes in the home looking for what I didn't do and not what I did do.  When they only look for your mistakes and short comings and not the good in you, they will never find anything good.  Because they are not looking for the good. 

  

Good luck to you.  You are a beautiful woman.  Is he blind as well as stupid? 

  

Gary W. Roberts 

 
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