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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 3:53 pm PST

who are you to judge?

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    Greg and Kelly will not stay married.  She is a shell of a person that has been verbally abused for years.  She will never do anything right in his eyes and he needs a year on a shrinks couch trying to figure out who messed up his mind when he was a child!  He is missing something-feelings perhaps?  She better get out now-maybe when he meets Miss Right (now that his ring has been off his finger)  he'll figure out that there is no perfect person that he can mold into a Stepford wife. 

Who are you to say wether someone will or will not stay married?  We should be encouraging others in this situation to figure it out.  No there is never a perfect spouse but that doesn't mean we should jump up and leave the as soon as they make a mistake or do something we don't like!  Part of marriage is compromise and that can say more about your relationship than anything else. 

  

I think the fact that Grant is changing and is willing to be honest is a huge step.  Like Dr. Phil said you can't change the world overnight.  Give the guy some credit here!  At least he is trying!  He is stuck in this old habit and habits are hard to change, he IS trying! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:54 pm PST

Yes good poin too

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great viewpoint! 

  

What was it like to be in the audience? I'm going to get tickets soon so I was just curious. 

 i just want to say that the  women i see on tv has been abused mentally by the behaviours  he has done...

um mm been watching dr phile ever since oprah.... is the show good to watch inperson
i admire dr phils marriage first and formost and learned lots from that.. i do like dr.hils most times for  sure but at times i think he really doesnt come ou t of him self with deep emotion al issues and such so sometimes he does coem off superficiall especially when he does think hes right   mostly always...but besides thats he sok
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:54 pm PST

meaning of wife according to who?

  I did not see the first show with couple, but after watching the show today I wished I had. I am curious as to Grants role model for a husband and wife. What is his backround and what was his household like growing up? Was his mother a "good wife", so thats what he thought life was like? I can sympathize with both parties, if this is what he thought it meant to be a wife and mother, you can't blame him for his role models. I can also sympathize with his wife. She is doing the best she can, and being critisized isn't helping her . I know some men think they are giving "constructive" critisizm", but the way they do it DEconstructs the situation. I would love to know what his mother says to him about the whoe thing. Is she critical of her daughter in -law also, or supportive. I thought they both looked very sad and hurt on todays show. Grant looked genuinely concerned about his behavior, and how he could change it. The good thing was they were both there and willing to put it all out there for all to see. I hope this marriage makes it, they both seem like good people.
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:54 pm PST

So Sad!

I feel so sorry for Grant and Kelly!  He really is clueless in the man and husband category.  He seems  so self centered and self absorbed!!!  Kelly is pitiful.  I can't believe she puts up with his garbage!  She seems so sad and beaten down emotionally.  She needs a backbone. I think Dr. Phil is too easy on Grant and doesn't support Kelly enough!  She just sat there looking so humiliated and sad!!!  I feel sorry for his children living in such a stressful environment.  She needs to love those children and tell Grant he needs to do the same.  He needs to love and support his family or get lost. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:55 pm PST

Roles of Wives/Husbands

My opinion is:  Today, husbands and wives roles are very different than they were when my mother was growing up.  I myself am a stay-at-home mom, who loves her "job". I don't think I could ever run the kind of home that my grandmother did.  I would love to be able to keep a spotless house and be a master chef at the same time, but I can't.  I think that time maybe the problem I have.  I have to(and want to) take my kids to playgroup, after school activities, and keep active in their school as well.  Gone are the days when you could just put your kids in the backyard and let them roam about, knowing they would be back in time for supper.  (Isn't that my time for cooking, cleaning?)  I wish that I could but its just not safe!   I think my house is packed with "stuff" that we dont need, toys, clothes, etc.  It is always so cluttered.  Sometimes I think it would be great to be back in the days when you got one barbie doll and that was fine.  Think of all the free space you would have in your house then.  That is my reason for not having the perfect house, wait a minute, I do have the perfect house, it's just a bit messy right now... 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:55 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

I sat and watched Grant on this show, and the last one he was on for that matter, and thought to myself that he is the stupidest smart person I know.  Just watching him, he is like a robot, no emotion or common sense anywhere to be found.  I'll bet this guy did internet research on "what a wife should be" to get his information.  What was his mother like, I am dying to know.  Was she Mrs. Cleaver or Roseanne???  Or was she even around???  And Kelly, come on girl, you gotta grow a back bone.  Marriage is not about impressing each other or finding validation by doing certain tasks, marriage is one thing we enter into because we want to and we should go there because we want to.  I cannot imagine myself in the position of Kelly.  My husband is thrilled if I make a big dinner, but if I heat up some old frozen pot pie, he is happy too.  He does not clean the house and never makes a remark about it, because he does not have to do it and he feels happy that he has someone who will do it for him.  If I were Kelly, I would hand over the mop and the dust pan and let old Grant take a crack at it.  It is very easy to sit on his high horse and dictate how things should be done and how they should look, it is a whole new ball game when you have to actually do the labor and the hard work to get it to look that way.  Why doesn't Grant jump in and help if he is so concerned about how things are organized or unorganized.  In the time he spent making a list of 75 duties a wife should do, having them laminated and on colored paper, he could have cleaned the whole house and done 3 loads of laundry.  My husband is not perfect, but at least he recognizes what I do around this house and that I am also not perfect, but he appreciates all I do for him and all I do for our family.  And by the way Grant, our master bedroom is lavendar with flowers everywhere, guess what my husband said when I painted it....thank God I don't have to paint.  Never a word about the color.  And by the way buddy, you wore a pink shirt to the show.......

  

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:55 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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Is there such thing as a "Super-Woman?"  I guess Grant still believes in a "Super-Woman," but she doesn't exist.  Anyone who has lived and experienced a realistic life knows this is never attainable.  This false expectation only leads to disappointment.  If your the woman who is trying to live up to the "Super-Woman" theory, you only end up questioning your self worth when you can't live up to this. 

  

The role of a wife is the same as the role of a husband.  A marriage that works must be 100/100.  I think what most people miss out of this 100/100, is that it is a safe guard for the marriage.  If one person falls short the other person can pick up the slack.  The only thing one can expect in a marriage is to give and keep giving, it's never about getting. 

  

    Hate to disappoint you, but marriage is not a 100/100 thing.  It is give and take on both sides, sometimes more on the woman's side, but sometimes on the husband's side.  You both have to work together and sometimes both of you take up the slack to make it work. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:55 pm PST

ditto

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I am sitting here watching this show and I can just   feel my blood pressure going up!  Boy, I wish I were there in the audience so I could just let this man have it with both barrels.  What is his problem?   He needs some serious therapy!  What makes his think that just because he was "gracious enough to (rescue) this beautiful woman and make her his wife that that gives him the right to tell her how to live her life?  Why would she a a human being want to spend any more time with someone like you than she absolutely has to. 

  

And as for Kelly I ask why, why, why does she put up with this?  You don't need anyone else to validate you.  If he doesn't wear his wedding ring who doesn't he want to know that he is married?  Take yours off too and walk it to the nearest pawn shop and hock it use the money to get out because he will never change, I guarentee it. 

I too felt my blood pressure rising!! And I couldn't get to my computer fast enough.  As well as, I usually never ever respond about any show.  This one pushed too many buttons for me.
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:56 pm PST

Different Personalities

I am curious as to how Grant and Kelly met. Did they meet in college or as young adults? They just seem to have such opposite "wiring," as he seems very technical, and she is emotional and intuitive.
 

I went to a college with an excellent engineering school and dated several engineering students. Although they were always nice guys, we just had different personalities. I have always noticed that most engineers have a very precise, technical, get-to-the-point personality and many find it hard to be very feeling and emotional.

I'm not putting anyone down, but with Grant and Kelly, I think their personality clashes are part of the root of the problem.  

 
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February 21, 2006, 3:56 pm PST

Grant go home to mommy!!!! You need to grow up!

D.r Phil,  I can't believe Kelly has tollerated his crap until now.  He doen't get it.  Marriage is a bond between two adults working towards a common goal.  When I saw his lists of 70 or 75 things a wife should do, it left me with a stress lump in my throat.  I have been married for 17yrs. have 2 children.  My husband tried to tell me to cook different, more healthy.  To mow the lawn this way and now we go out to eat and he has someone mowing the lawn.  I don't comment on things he does when he's around.  We are all disfunctional  in some way but Grant is over the top.  He is setting an aweful example for his kids.  When my husband is verbally rotten I ask him if he'd like his daughter to be talked to like that by her spouse.  He has also learned that I tell everyone alot of things and if he's going to be embarrassed to have friends know, DO NOT BEHAVE THAT WAY!!!  Well I feel vented out but that man made me angry.  sincerely, Carola
 
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