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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 22, 2006, 8:31 am PST

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I was very much so not impressed with grant and the way he acted towards his wife amy.He needs to learn how to be a husband,instead of her learning to be a wife.he needs to just get his self a machine and teach it what and how he wants it to act.Amy needs to be her own person.Grant needs to learn that 2 hands make better then one,seeing that amy is raising her children pretty much on her own.And its nice to see that she would rather spend time teaching and interacting with her children then cleaning the bathroom.
 
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February 22, 2006, 8:32 am PST

This Texas Gal Don't agree!!!!

I tape and watch Doctor Phil everyday, I saw both of these shows and I am completely appalled at the way this guy treats his wife!!!! All I have to say to Grant is your house will be to your expectations when she's gone and your doing it yourself!! Kelly , to you....girl...get some Kahunas stand up to this man or just sit down and let him do it! As "Anal" as he is you could leave the mess and it would not take him long to begin cleaning!!! You have every right to have a say in how you conduct your house and when it is done!! My husband and I work Full time and raise our two beautiful girls , My theory in life is that if my child wants a book read and there are dishes in the sink those dishes will be there when I get finished reading and if I run out of time to cook dinner it's "fin for yourself night!!" Canned soup, spaghettios, What ever we can muster up!!PB&J never hurt anyone!!!! Grant needs to know that there will be all the time in the world to clean , cook and be retentive when your kids are grown and gone but he is wasting precious energy that could be spent on his family. If tomorrow was your last day on earth would you worry about how clean the house is or just focus on your family? Cherish each day like it is your last!!! I believe that you are sending your kids the wrong message here!! That you are teaching your son to demean women and you sure are not teaching him how to love!!  My husband keeps his mouth shut about the house or he gets to clean it....after 15 yrs together he finally admitted he would rather do anything in the world than clean house!! That explains his silence!!!! Grant .....Lead by example....I did not see you helping at all!!! If you spent half the energy you spend complaining and criticizing helping her you get alot done!!!!You both have full time jobs only hers is 24-7 and yours is when you leave the office!!! And I and I am sure you get paid a hell of a lot more than she doe!!!! Wake up before you miss out on the most wonderful gift having a loving family and watching your kids grow up under the same roof as you! If I was Kelly I would not be as patient I would have already opened that can of whoop A--! Stick up for yourself and have your say!! After all it is your domain.....rule it!!! 

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Happy Texas Mama of Two!!!!! 

 

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February 22, 2006, 8:34 am PST

Not good at all.

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Grant's not wearing his wedding ring?  That's not a good sign.

Very sad. Not wearing the ring. But I think every marraige goes through stuff. I say get a cleaning service and maybe the cooking help with dinners. And what's with the pink in the kitchen? 

Pink on any window... not a good sign. Except a baby girls nursery. 

 

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February 22, 2006, 8:36 am PST

I hope Kelly reads your post & takes your advice!

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I just watched my Tivo'd Dr. Phil about wifestyles.  Kelly, what you are enduring is called mental and emotional abuse, plain and simple.  He's trying to control your every move.  Even if you vacuumed the house perfectly, arranged  the furniture perfectly, washed the dishes perfectly, cared for the kids perfectly, etc., he would add another 100 items on his list.  Yes, we all have faults.  We are human.    

  

Kelly, I might recommend that you go see someone who can help you feel strong and worthy again.  The more confident you feel about your worth, the better equipped you are to stand up for yourself.  He's abusing you.  How do I know?  From first-hand experience.  My husband started pulling this stuff five days after our baby was born.  After months of mental, emotional and verbal abuse, he agreed to go to marriage counseling.  My husband didn't believe anything the couselor told him and refused to go back.  I kept going, and I also joined a support group for women in abusive relationships.   I wasn't going to the meetings with a black eye and broken ribs, but my spirit was severely broken.  Guess what...I found myself again and I no longer tolerate his behavior.   I'm back to being the strong and confident person I was before the abuse started.  Grant is going to continue to be a bully for as long as you tollerate it.   He has ownership of his anger and his controlling behavior.  It's not your fault and it's nothing you've done.  Run...don't walk to a counselor with whom you feel comfortable.   You need to be strong and confident so you can take care of the babes.  Sending some warm thoughts your way.   

  

  

And hey, why does Grant have so much time to be on the computer, when he could be sweeping, vacuuming, organizing cabinets, etc? 
 
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February 22, 2006, 8:36 am PST

Love is mysterious and can not be manufactured

Watching this show struck a cord. I am reminded of my marriage to a very good man that I just could not love, not the way he and I deserved it. We got together out of mutual need. It took me 7 years to come to the realization that no matter how nice a man he is, he may not be right for me. I felt so guilty. This husband of mine worked hard and came home and cooked and cleaned and fixed and even when I totaled his car, never complained. It took me another 7 years to meet a man I really came to love. Wow, I had no idea! In love I truly only wanted what was best for him. In love I became the loving sexy woman my then husband had longed for. What it comes down to is no matter how nice, proper and good a person they may be they may not make the right partner, wife or husband. Love can not be manufactured. He can decide to be a nicer, kinder person, which likely will be a good thing, but will not make him more loving. Love happens, is unpredictable and too often confused with needs we have and project on another. I feel for the guy because in his frustration he is suffering. I know because I have been there. And I feel for her because she allows another person to grind down on her self worth because she thinks she is in love with him. Putt children in to the mix and it becomes a tragedy unless someone has the courage to set things right. For me it was leaving my very nice husband which terrified me but now I wonder why I did not do it earlier! He too is now remarried and in a kind of relationship I could have never been in with him and I am so happy for him to have found love, finally. My suggestion is to look at what got a couple initially involved. Therein lies the key! And, we are allowed to change our minds and change our contract!
 
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February 22, 2006, 8:37 am PST

Get a Clue

Grant needs to get a clue about relationships. I don't get why he seems to want to run the relationship as he would a business. It should be a partnership with both sides giving and taking. Leave the engineer at the office. If he would stop trying to fix her and learn to love her for who she is he might be a happier man.  

  

She might want to fix the house up and take better care of him if he would not put her down and be mentally abusive to her. I know that when I come home from a hard day at work my husband will pick up on that and say....why don't we go out and get a bite to eat or order in tonight.....you look like you have had a hard day....and he will do other things to let me know that I am his first priority. That in turn makes me want to do more to make him happy...like cook his favorite meal....etc. 

  

They should focus on each other and their relationship...not the house...cooking and other things that don't really matter. At the end of the day when you come home to spend time with your family does it really matter if toys are on the floor or the laundry is not done? If Grant would focus on enjoying his wife and let the resentment towards Kelly go and find ways to make her life easier he might find her trying to bend over backwards to help him. Maybe he should try coming home one day and asking Kelly what he could do to help her. 

  

Has Grant also thought about how he is affecting his children. As they grow up and hear how he treats his wife they may start to resent him. And if he has boys they will think it is ok to treat their spouses the way he treats Kelly. And when it is all said and done and the children are grown they will not remember if the house was perfect but they will remember how much time Grant and Kelly spent with them and they will remember how the family treated each other. 

  

And if he wants a great meal...instead of putting her down he should have offered to take a cooking class with her...she could learn to cook great food and they would be spending time together. And if a clean house is that important to him for goodness sakes hire a maid and use the house cleaning time to spend with your family. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 8:37 am PST

What is he thinking?!

I agree with  those of you who say that Grant is clueless. He needs to understand that marriage is a partnership. Yes she stays home to take care of her family and home, but she is not super woman. If he truly loved her, he would see that she needs help. If he gave her some help instead of critizing her, both of them would be happier as well as their children. He should also think about the role-model he is to his young children. Grant is their greatest resource to look upon when it comes to treating a woman.

I thought that I had a terrible time with my husband before seeing the first installment of the show. However, after this recent episode, he looks like Mr. Wonderful.
 
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February 22, 2006, 8:38 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

We are old fashion in my home. I usually take care of the inside things, which means, if my cabinets are unorganized or the broom is behind the door, or the curtains are pink i am the one who had to see it and mess with it everyday, so it is mine to look at. My husband is almost always in charge of the outside stuff. I do not mow the lawn or take out the trash or wash the car. He does not tell me how to clean the house, I do not tell h im how to mow the lawn. We have three kids and we both work full time, if I notice that the lawn is a little overgrown, I do make a suggestion like maybe this weekend we can get the yard done, and the same goes with him. If the laundry starts piling up, he simply says "I am going to put a load in the washer to get started, will you finish it up?" I do not think that a husband or a wife should ever tell the other that they need lessons in something. That is totally disrespectful, and the things that Grant is complaining about are not even important things. Who cares about a messy pantry, or an overloaded dishwasher. At least she is not hurting his kids and she is home taking care of them as well as him. I dont think that they should divorce each other, I think that maybe Grant just needs to learn to not sweat the small stuff. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 8:41 am PST

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This message is for Grant.  

  

I'm a female version of you, although alot older. I, too, have always been one to make to-do lists for myself (and others). It must have something to do with being right-brained. (I'm an accountant. My Dad is like this, too, and he is an engineer.) 

  

After 36 years of marriage, I'm glad to be married to someone who is my opposite. (I didn't always feel this way.) I'm not saying my husband is a slob. Not at all. He picks up after himself though he is a bit of a packrat. (We compromise on that part. I've built shelves in the basement and I've also put in closet organizers.) My husband's best virtue is the patience he's shown with me as I discover what is important and what is not. (From what I can see, you have that in Kelly, too.) 

  

In the early years, I was quite fanatical. I wanted my household to be a perfectly oiled machine. As time went by, I found I was driving my husband and my children nuts. The day my 8 year old said, "You expect us to live in "House Beautiful," I realized that I needed to lighten up. When I did, I found freedom from within, also. My house now has that comfortable lived-in look. It's picked up. It's deep cleaned once or twice a year, but no more fretting about the small stuff. 

  

Good luck on your quest, Grant.  

  

  

 
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February 22, 2006, 8:41 am PST

Same here!

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So funny!  I actually sent an email to Dr. Phil asking him to set up a wife swap for Grant.   

  

My first idea was that he put Amy (the woman on the show that agreed with Grant's position) in Kelly's place.  I want her to "put her money where her mouth is."  She seemed to have a lot to say about how Kelly should be meeting Grant's needs -- let's see if she can get the job done.  I say that no one could meet Grant's needs because he is delusional.  But let's just see if  "Ms. Perfect Amy" could do it. 

  

My second idea was that Dr. Phil take the woman from his show on Monday -- the show about "Bitches"-- and swap her and Kelly.  The second bitch who admits that her children are misbehaving now because of her foul behavior.  I think Grant would get quite an eye-opener if the self-proclaimed "Bitch" and her mis-behaving children moved into his house and Kelly and her children moved into the bitch's house.  The bitch's husband would get an idea of what it is like to have someone to come home to that is kind, sweet, and loving.  It could be an eye-opener for all involved. 

Yes, let Amy move in and live with Grant and his list for a week.  This would be a great show.  Amy is so ready to criticize Kelly about her priorities, let's see her deal with Grant on a daily basis.  She is one for big talk so let's see if she can also walk the walk. 
 
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