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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 22, 2006, 10:56 am PST

Exactly

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It is not simple to treat a man like a king when he treats you like a slave.  If a husband automatically reciprocated those actions, we wouldn't need Dr. Phil here.  Wake up! 

You can do onto others as you would have others do onto you,  

BUT others do not necessarily reciprocate in kind.  Particularly not abusive, controlling husbands. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 10:58 am PST

IF she has a brain

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to Grant:  In my dictionary next to Male Chauvinist - my gosh there is YOUR picture!  And here it is again - next to "clueless" and "insensitive" and "self-centered", "selfish", "boorish" - it's all over the place!  I've left better men than you when the relationship got too controlling or expectations got too weird, and they couldn't hold a candle to how you are controlling Kelly - you are the epitome of controlling.  In fact, you are abusive.  WHile I do agree kids benefit from an example of cleanliness and order...how do they benefit from a house run in a military, unrealistic fashion??  And a mom who is nervous, stressed out, unhappy?  You are raising future anorexics!  at the very least those kids will have ulcers from the stress of your ridiculous, ludicrous, insane expectations.   Looking at you and knowing what you expect of Kelly in the looks and wardrobe arena...get a MIRROR buddy!  In my opinion you are hopeless.  Dr. Phil is good at what he does but I don't think even HE can make you bearable. I would like to visit your past to see just where in the hell your wiring got so screwed up.  ...and by the way, Mr. Perfect -- it's "when the credits ROLL" ...not role.  Work on that....you get a D-.  I think men should be good spellers...it's on my list. 

  

To Kelly:  HOOOOOOOOOONEY!  For cryin' out loud girl!  RUN!  If you can't do it for YOU then please do it for your KIDS for God's SAKE! 

IF she has a brain, she'll stay.  Single women with children usually live in poverty and no intelligent guy will date one because who wants to take on someone else's responsibility-especially when he can never correct the kids?   

  

  

 
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February 22, 2006, 11:02 am PST

Dear Grant

 

THE NEXT SURVIVOR SERIES 

  

 

  

 

Six married men will be dropped on an island with 

  

 

one car and 3 kids each for six weeks. 

  

 

  

 

Each kid will play two sports and either take music 

  

 

or dance classes. 

  

 

  

 

There is no fast food. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must take care of his 3 kids; keep his 

  

 

assigned house clean, correct all homework, complete 

  

 

science projects, cook, do laundry, and pay a list 

  

 

of "pretend" bills with not enough money. 

  

 

  

 

In addition, each man will have to budget in money 

  

 

for groceries each week. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must remember the birthdays of all their 

  

 

friends and relatives, and send cards out on time. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must also take each child to a doctor's 

  

 

appointment, a dentist appointment and! a haircut 

  

 

appointment. He must make one unscheduled and 

  

 

inconvenient visit per child to the Urgent Care 

  

 

(weekend, evening, on a holiday or right when 

  

 

they're 

  

 

about to leave for vacation). He must also make 

  

 

cookies or cupcakes for a social function. 

  

 

  

 

Each man will be responsible for decorating his own 

  

 

assigned house, planting flowers outside and keeping 

  

 

it presentable at all times. 

  

 

  

 

The men will only have access to television when the 

  

 

kids are asleep and all chores are done. 

  

 

  

 

There is only one TV between them, and a remote with 

  

 

dead batteries. 

  

 

  

 

Each father will be required to know all of the 

  

 

words 

  

 

to every stupid song that comes on TV and the name 

  

 

of each and every character on cartoons. 

  

 

  

 

The men must shave their legs, wear makeup daily, 

  

 

which they will apply to themselves either while 

  

 

driving or making three lunches. 

  

 

  

 

Each man will have to make an Indian hut model with 

  

 

six toothpicks, a tortilla and one marker; and get a 

  

 

4 year old to eat a serving of peas. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must adorn himself with jewelry, wear 

  

 

uncomfortable yet stylish shoes, keep their nails 

  

 

polished and eyebrows groomed. The men must try to 

  

 

get 

  

 

through each day without snot, spit-up or barf on 

  

 

their clothing. 

  

 

During one of the six weeks, the men will have to 

  

 

endure severe abdominal cramps, back aches, and have 

  

 

extreme, unexplained mood swings but never once 

  

 

complain or slow down from other duties. They must 

  

 

try 

  

 

to explain what a tampon is for when the 6-yr old 

  

 

boy finds it in the purse. 

  

 

  

 

They must attend weekly school meetings, church, and 

  

 

find time at least once to spend the afternoon at 

  

 

the park or a similar setting. 

  

 

  

 

He will need to read a book and then pray with the 

  

 

children each night without falling asleep, and then 

  

 

feed them, dress them, brush their teeth and comb 

  

 

their hair each morning by 7:00. They must leave the 

  

 

home with no food on their face or clothes. 

  

 

  

 

They must clean up after their sick children at 2:00 

  

 

a.m. and then spend the remainder of the day tending 

  

 

to that child and waiting on them hand and foot 

  

 

until  they are better. 

  

 

  

 

They must have a loving, age appropriate reply to, 

  

 

"You're not the boss of me". 

  

 

  

 

A test will be given at the end of the six weeks, 

  

 

and 

  

 

each father will be required to know all of the 

  

 

following information: each child's birthday, 

  

 

height, 

  

 

weight, shoe size, clothes size and doctor's name. 

  

 

Also the child's weight at birth, length, time of 

  

 

birth, and length of labor, each child's favorite 

  

 

color, middle name, favorite snack, favorite song, 

  

 

favorite drink, favorite toy, biggest fear and what 

  

 

they want to be when they grow up. 

  

 

  

 

The kids vote them off the island based on 

  

 

performance. 

  

 

  

 

The last man wins only if...he still has enough 

  

 

energy 

  

 

to be intimate with his spouse at a moment's notice. 

  

 

  

 

If the last man does win, he can play the game over 

  

 

and over and over again for the next 18-25 

  

 

years...eventually earning the right to be called 

  

 

Mother! 

  

 

  

 

Author Unknown  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   

THE NEXT SURVIVOR SERIES 

  

 

  

 

Six married men will be dropped on an island with 

  

 

one car and 3 kids each for six weeks. 

  

 

  

 

Each kid will play two sports and either take music 

  

 

or dance classes. 

  

 

  

 

There is no fast food. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must take care of his 3 kids; keep his 

  

 

assigned house clean, correct all homework, complete 

  

 

science projects, cook, do laundry, and pay a list 

  

 

of "pretend" bills with not enough money. 

  

 

  

 

In addition, each man will have to budget in money 

  

 

for groceries each week. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must remember the birthdays of all their 

  

 

friends and relatives, and send cards out on time. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must also take each child to a doctor's 

  

 

appointment, a dentist appointment and! a haircut 

  

 

appointment. He must make one unscheduled and 

  

 

inconvenient visit per child to the Urgent Care 

  

 

(weekend, evening, on a holiday or right when 

  

 

they're 

  

 

about to leave for vacation). He must also make 

  

 

cookies or cupcakes for a social function. 

  

 

  

 

Each man will be responsible for decorating his own 

  

 

assigned house, planting flowers outside and keeping 

  

 

it presentable at all times. 

  

 

  

 

The men will only have access to television when the 

  

 

kids are asleep and all chores are done. 

  

 

  

 

There is only one TV between them, and a remote with 

  

 

dead batteries. 

  

 

  

 

Each father will be required to know all of the 

  

 

words 

  

 

to every stupid song that comes on TV and the name 

  

 

of each and every character on cartoons. 

  

 

  

 

The men must shave their legs, wear makeup daily, 

  

 

which they will apply to themselves either while 

  

 

driving or making three lunches. 

  

 

  

 

Each man will have to make an Indian hut model with 

  

 

six toothpicks, a tortilla and one marker; and get a 

  

 

4 year old to eat a serving of peas. 

  

 

  

 

Each man must adorn himself with jewelry, wear 

  

 

uncomfortable yet stylish shoes, keep their nails 

  

 

polished and eyebrows groomed. The men must try to 

  

 

get 

  

 

through each day without snot, spit-up or barf on 

  

 

their clothing. 

  

 

During one of the six weeks, the men will have to 

  

 

endure severe abdominal cramps, back aches, and have 

  

 

extreme, unexplained mood swings but never once 

  

 

complain or slow down from other duties. They must 

  

 

try 

  

 

to explain what a tampon is for when the 6-yr old 

  

 

boy finds it in the purse. 

  

 

  

 

They must attend weekly school meetings, church, and 

  

 

find time at least once to spend the afternoon at 

  

 

the park or a similar setting. 

  

 

  

 

He will need to read a book and then pray with the 

  

 

children each night without falling asleep, and then 

  

 

feed them, dress them, brush their teeth and comb 

  

 

their hair each morning by 7:00. They must leave the 

  

 

home with no food on their face or clothes. 

  

 

  

 

They must clean up after their sick children at 2:00 

  

 

a.m. and then spend the remainder of the day tending 

  

 

to that child and waiting on them hand and foot 

  

 

until  they are better. 

  

 

  

 

They must have a loving, age appropriate reply to, 

  

 

"You're not the boss of me". 

  

 

  

 

A test will be given at the end of the six weeks, 

  

 

and 

  

 

each father will be required to know all of the 

  

 

following information: each child's birthday, 

  

 

height, 

  

 

weight, shoe size, clothes size and doctor's name. 

  

 

Also the child's weight at birth, length, time of 

  

 

birth, and length of labor, each child's favorite 

  

 

color, middle name, favorite snack, favorite song, 

  

 

favorite drink, favorite toy, biggest fear and what 

  

 

they want to be when they grow up. 

  

 

  

 

The kids vote them off the island based on 

  

 

performance. 

  

 

  

 

The last man wins only if...he still has enough 

  

 

energy 

  

 

to be intimate with his spouse at a moment's notice. 

  

 

  

 

If the last man does win, he can play the game over 

  

 

and over and over again for the next 18-25 

  

 

years...eventually earning the right to be called 

  

 

Mother! 

  

 

  

 

After you get done laughing, send this to as many 

  

 

females as you think will get a kick out of it and 

  

 

as many men as you think can handle it. 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

 
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February 22, 2006, 11:02 am PST

different preception

Quote From: jim1970

He says no because he's the man of the house, while she is just the little woman.

         My mother cut an article out of the paper that talked about another couple having the problems. Your not alone it's a hard thing to juggle housework & children. I have a problem feeling appreciated for this job not only by my husband ,but also my children. It's hard to keep a good attitude already much less having your husband expect more. 

       Anyway the article was about a husband feeling this way & then changed his preception about the whole situation.  He now walks in the house not disappointed of the looks or no food on the table.  He looks that his children are well & taken care of.  Sometimes we only have to take the time to appreciate what we have, not what we want, or don't have. 

 

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February 22, 2006, 11:02 am PST

I can see both sides

     I really don't think Grant is a bad or controlling person.  I think it's just the different ways our brains work.   

     I'm no control freak but, yes, the dishwasher had to be loaded a certain way or the dishes will not be properly cleaned!  If you overload the washing machine your clothes will not be clean and you will eventually break the machine.   

     I don't agree with Dr. Phil when he says accept little things your partner does that you don't like.  Everyone has their comfort zone.  Everyone has some things that have to be right in order to keep them sane, it could be keeping the t.v. remote in a certain place, paying bills two weeks before they are due or keeping your closet in a certain order.   Why should I get stressed out every single day instead of just asking my husband to please respect my feelings?   

     On the other hand, there are certain things that I realize I am very anal about such as laundry and organizing, so much so, it's not fair to expect someone to do it exactly how I want it done so those things I choose to do myself.   I would love to come home after work and have my husband make dinner but I know I wouldn't be comfortable with it, I would be up his butt the whole time, making sure he is putting things away where they belong, not making a big mess, not over/under cooking, basically driving us both nuts so, instead, I do it.   In return, I never put anythnig away in HIS garage without asking where it goes first!  

 
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February 22, 2006, 11:02 am PST

my two cents on a wife's role

I just wanted to say that I would be devastated if my husband came home and complained about the way that I do or don't keep the house up. I don't go to his job and tell him how to do it, I don't constantly ask him if he's doing everything right and go over everything he did that day to make sure that it meets my standards.  

I think that's the hardest thing about being the parent who stays at home while the other works. What you do is right there for everyone to see, what your spouse does usually stays at the office.  

If they make a mistake or are "lazy" for a day or spend the day talking to a coworker, no one knows about it. But if you feel lazy for a day and just spend the day playing with your child and neglect your household chores, then everyone can see it.  

  

And that's the thing, isn't it? There's no concrete way to measure how well you're raising your children. There's no "proof" at the end of the day that you spent the day playing, reading, cuddling, and singing with your child/ren.  

  

I am in my thirties and new to being a stay at home parent. I worked for ten years and its very hard to get used to not having anything concrete to measure how well you're doing. You don't get a paycheck, there's no performance review, and there's no pats on the back or someone waiting to give you a bonus if you do a good job.  

  

All you have is your children and your own sense of accountability for how you're raising them. I would be so insulted and angry if my husband had that critical attitude towards me. How dare you judge what I do during the day and treat me like I'm a child in my own home?  

  

I think its sad that a lot of people who stay at home spend so much time cleaning when they could be spending time doing fun things with their kids. When you are on your deathbed, are you going to wish that you'd had a cleaner house or that you had more time with your loved ones?  

I think Kelly's story about cleaning the toilet and then realizing her three year old was outside naked by himself on his bike riding the street says it all. Do you want your children to be safe or do you want your toilet clean?  

  

Yes we can look back at the way our grandmother's and our mother's did things and try to compare ourselves to that. I look back at the way my mother did things....our house was always immaculate. But I also have memories of constantly wishing she would play with me, color with me, take me out to do something with her, and of her telling me she had too much to do.  

  

I would much rather have a disorganized chaotic and sometimes dirty house and have a happy child who feels loved, who's safe, and who doesn't spend her day in a playpen so that I can mop the floor or clean the toilet.  

  

I also think its a shame that people ever take their spouses for granted like that. Every day when you wake up you should be thankful to god or the universe or just life that you are so lucky to have someone who wants to be your spouse, someone who wants to have your children and raise them with you. Do you know how many lonely people there are out there who never find anyone? Who die alone, who want so much to have children but don't because they can't find someone to have them with?  

Especially someone like Grant, I'm sorry but Kelly is a beautiful gorgeous woman inside and out and he should be on his knees thankful that someone like her would want to build a life with him. I just don't get it, I don't get why he can't wear his wedding ring. It just baffles me.  

Would men like Grant rather have their wives at work 40 hours a week so that someone else can take care of their children? Then they really would have to take on half of the work around the house.  

  

Also I don't understand why it is that just because one spouse stays home the other takes no responsibility for the housework at all? If they were both working outside the home, they'd both have to share the chores, right? Stay at home parents are on call 24 hours a day. We get up at 3 am to feed our children or calm a child who's had a nightmare or who just can't get back to sleep. We give so much of ourselves and I feel that the other spouse should take on some of the household work. If you don't like the way I keep the house, do it yourself.  

  

I think that a wife's role is not set in stone. If both spouses work, they should share the load of household chores and things like grocery shopping and cooking. Women put too much pressure on themselves to do everything and be everything. Why aren't there men out there wondering why they can't be the perfect husband?  

  

I just feel so bad for Kelly. I would be so devastated if my husband treated me that way. I hope that the two of them are able to work it out. I know I'm being judgemental but honestly I would just not be able to stay with someone who treated me like that.  

  

  

  

 
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February 22, 2006, 11:03 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: sandyrey

If Grant has the time to walk around and inspect his wife's cleaning,I say grab a bottle of 409 and a cloth and fix it yourself if your not happy with how she did it!!!
Amen!!!
 
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February 22, 2006, 11:06 am PST

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Grant needs a wake up call!  Make him run the house for three days without any help from his wife.  His first priority is to make sure the children are taken care of and then he can do the house work.  When his wife gets home from his job, Grant can have dinner ready and she can tell him how he did.  I would hope she would be as hard on him as he is on her.  I can't believe Dr. Phil didn't tell him that he is not living up to his part as a husband.  How would he feel if his wife didn't wear her ring?  I just want to screem at Grant and Dr. Phil! 

  

Rebecca 

  

  

To smile is to see a smile because people are like mirrors, they reflect what they see. 

  

  

  

 
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February 22, 2006, 11:07 am PST

Let me guess....

Quote From: jim1970

Why hire a housekeeper when that's what a wife is for?  That's one of their three jobs, cooking is the second.  As for the third.... 

You're a comedian, right? 
 
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February 22, 2006, 11:08 am PST

lifes too short

I would just like to add my opinion... I too, am a self proclaimed clean freak. I am a stay at home mother of two boys, now 18 and 14, and an "adopted 18 year old" friend of my sons who has lived with us for 6 years .. I have 3 german shepards, 3 cats, and a bird. Indoor pets, (they"re family!!) A 5500 square foot house that has to "by my standards"  be cleaned every day. I enjoy a neat home, and cant relax if there are dishes in  my sink, or crumbs or smudges on the counters, but I can say, that's MY personal preference.my childrens rooms are THEIR rooms.  They do pick up so I can vaccuum, or they do it them selves, and there is no dirty dishes in there for more than 1 day. Im a germ freak too.. I  think in this hectic world they need their own space, and deserve to feel comfortable in their home. I do not freak when they have a ton of friends over and they eat and drink in the living room or anywhere else for that matter, they always pick up their stuff, out of repect for me, without being told, and often help with the dishes, cooking, daily household chores. I LOVE when everyone is either at school, outside or gone for a few hours so I can clean and look around and go, okay, this is how a house is supposed to look. Then I start to miss the chaos, and they all start streaming in , with snowboards, boots, dog hair, etc, and I am really in heaven again. I think its important to realize, the kids and dogs are only here a short while, I can clean anytime!!! I want my family, animals included, to be home with me and happy to be here!!!! ps I have long ago realized that a little  dirt, dust,and dog hair never killed anyone!!!! Have a great day everyone!!
 
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