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Everyone knows someone who’s been in a bad breakup. Dr. Phil’s guests say they’ve got ex-mates from hell! Tracie called off her wedding over a year ago, but her ex-fiancé, Dan, still won’t leave her alone. He calls every morning to say he loves her, but when he hacked into her computer and e-mailed a man she was dating, and when he broke into her house, she filed a restraining order against him. Dan says Tracie is the love of his life, and thinks they still have a chance to patch things up. Then, Stacie says her ex-husband, Ted, is making her life miserable. Since their marriage ended, she says he abandoned her and their three sons financially. Can she get Ted to step up and pay child support, or will she and the kids be out on the street? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 23, 2006, 7:55 pm PST

02/23 Exes From Hell

I was left with the impression that Ted felt because the relationship was over so were his parental duties. He struck as a man who thinks the child support he pays is going to her -  shopping trips or nights out etc. Child support is meant to maintain the standard of living the children have become accustom to. It is meant to be for their portion of the mortage, electricity, groceries, school fees, clothing, activities etc.  If a woman takes a couple of dollars to buy herself a new pair of shoes (or whatever) as long as the children's shelter and necessaties are continuing to be met, no one has the right to comment. Consider it re-imbursement for the light bill or the phone bill that she just paid, not to mention the weekly grocery bill for three growing boys. One thing Stacie can take comfort in, as long as her head stays high and she takes the high road ignoring Ted's immaturity - the boys will see this and grow up to understand the truth. Not only will they understand, but they will probably show better respect for their children. Stacie and the boys are a family now, Ted has exiled himself with his behaviour. He probably feel like the only power he has left over them is the money, well Stacie will eventually be self-supporting - then what will you have Ted? 

 
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February 23, 2006, 7:57 pm PST

Amen

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what some of you fail to realize is that there are 2 sides to every story/i kno ted and stacie both and contary to what they say, neither of them are evil people/vindictive? yes/ a lot of what was said on the sho is in the past and they are both making efforts/but as the the tall bald one said, the kids are what matters most/so to those of you who have bad things to say about either party/1st walk a mile in their shoes/

Thank you! 

Stacie 

 
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February 23, 2006, 7:59 pm PST

Thank you for your kind words.

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Stacie, 

  

There are some real cruel and clueless people posting on this message board today and this evening.    

  

Don't allow it to get to you. 

  

I'm going to have to count to 10 and then some before I can post some common sense to those that absolutely have none. 

  

3 times I've come to this board to read and post after the show, however, I have experienced such frustration, anger and really taken back by some of the postings. 

  

Please realize that some folks are clueless, and even after watching a show they really don't "get it" stuff goes right over the top of their head. 

  

Many times Dr. Phil has asked folks, when they come on to confront and debate him, (you know the shows he has for that) well, he'll ask "WHAT SHOW DID YOU WATCH, ANYWAY."   

  

And for some people, no matter how many times you present the facts, they just don't listen and don't want to "get it." 

  

They go off with these ideas and comments that are absolute falsehoods.    I have tried so many times as have many other good folks to shed light on factual topics.....and to no avail with many people who post to the show boards. 

  

So, Stacie take care. 

  

You know the truth about your life and that of your children. 

  

Some of these people here on the boards are not about to listen or understand now either. 

  

As I said, I'm going to have to count to 10 and bite my tongue for a bit, before I begin to post to those who don't get it. 

  

Some of these board member's posts are appalling....at the least. 

  

I'm sorry you have experienced such abuse and pain. 

  

I'm sorry its been difficult for your children. 

  

Take care. 

  

I think I'll wait and post to some of these messages tomorrow or possibly I need to even wait till the weekend.     

  

I just checked a mirror and the steam is still rising from the top of my head. 

  

 "Sigh" 

  

  

You are sweet to respond the way you did. You are right, it is just so hard to read about people talking about my life like they know me. I know in my heart I am a good person and am doing everything in my power to be a good mother to my boys. That is why I went to Dr. Phil for help is because of my boys.  

Thanks again, 

Stacie 

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:01 pm PST

Sorry you feel that way.

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u seem to have spouted off w/out more well needed info/i kno ted and i kno that unfortunately for him, he did a lot of things he was told in that whole marriage/part of what he was told was make more money and spend more time at home/maybe he could have done that if he won the lottery/but you seem to be an expert so maybe you have all the answers

He wasn't told to make more money. We lived very modestly in California. When we moved back to k the housing is super low in comparison. I would live in a shack anyday if I had a loving family for my kids. 

Stacie 

 

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:03 pm PST

Hey Stacie

Man, your story brought back memories.  First off, TAKE NOT ONE BIT OF BLAME FOR HIS LOSS OF A JOB!  He was a jerk for blaming you or his family, and shame on him for that!  Either his ex boss is such a toad to fire him for one lousy phone call or he was doing a lousy job to begin with.  One call doesn't get a guy fired; poor performance does. 

  

Your worthless ex did everything the way all worthless exes do business.  My worthless ex enticed me to quit my job to stay at home with the kids; the day AFTER I did, he left us.  He needed a good excuse for being such a complete louse to leave a wife and two kids (especially after having spent months having affairs, I learned this later) so all of a sudden I cheated and our younger daughter wasn't his.  Surprise, surprise, he didn't want to spring for the expensive DNA test to find out what he already knew!  My ex tried to attack me when I took the last three hundred bucks out of our joint bank account; a month before, he had cleared out over five thousand.  He didn't take the car, he just had it repoed.  He bashed me to every person with an ear who would listen.  Didn't stop me from taking his sorry arse to court for ordered child support. 

  

I didn't go back to work right away.  I lived with Mom and Dad for a little while and went back to school.  Oh yeah, the fun of food stamps!  Ick.  What the "enlightened" Dr. Phil doesn't realize is that most moms take a hiatus from their own educations to support these wonderful men who dump them in the end.  Without a degree, you're working two jobs and seeing your kids an hour a day.  (Shame on Dr. Phil for jumping on you about that, by the way!)  Do some research and see what kind of things you can get going on your own to support your kids.  There's a lot of help for the single mom who goes out and gets it.  Work in the meantime until you can achieve the goals YOU want.  Just because you have a chump for an ex doesn't mean you have to give up your goals.  I didn't. 

  

Long story short, I am now married to the most wonderful man in the world.  We have my two daughters and a toddler son, and I am at home with him, pursuing my writing career!  The girls' dad remarried; when the girls have their visitation WITH THEIR GRANDFATHER, he likes to brag to them about how much happier he is now that it is just him and his wife and they can travel anywhere they want.  (Can you believe it?  The nerve of this guy!)  Nevertheless, they are happy and we have a great new family to grow in, and I have a spectacular man to grow old with!  It looks bad now, but don't worry.  It will all get better; all you need is a little determination.  Make that twerp of an ex a distant memory and go for it!  You'll be all right! 

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:03 pm PST

How crazy is that

Some things really are just black and white. Dan is a stalker okay. So we know his problem but real issue is Tracy.  After rejection and protection orders a stalker should start to get the hint but how can one if you continue to sleep with him and go out ect. She keeps Dan around when it is convienent for her and when its not he is a stalker. She mad her bed and is laying in it with him. Get some professional help. 

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:07 pm PST

Oh Please

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but wha u saw wasnt the whole story/not from either side/interesting what tv can do isnt it/but i guess if you call it as u see it then david copperfield really did make the statue of liberty disappear/or did you not see that?
I too saw two sides of the story and whether or not we recieve the complete details or just half truth we saw enough to know that they are both crazy.
 
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February 23, 2006, 8:14 pm PST

Free ticket????

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 wake up call for women not to depend on men? Why should anyone depend on anyone else other than themselves for their financial future?  Whether you're married or not!!! Just because you get married doesn't mean it's a free ticket to be taken care of for the rest of your life! Come on!

 Being a stay at home mother of 3 boys is not a free ticket. 

Stacie 

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:20 pm PST

02/23 Exes From Hell

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that is the reason so many women will spend their life savings trying to secure full custody, the reason women chase a man when he makes more money after the divorce.. and why women make up and are encouraged to make up stories to limit mens access to the kids. 

If everybody agreed that men and women were equally entitled to access to the kids  they agreed to have during the marriage.. divorce lawyers would have to find other stuff to do . 

Some women believe in having children without informing their prosepctive mate about that possibility.. calling it "leaving it up to God" 

She needs to get a job.. and she needs a budget, and she needs to lose the sense of entitlement to a life sitting at home spending his money.. 

She also needs to be held financially accountable for costing him his job, saying she was "hormonal" when she called is a slap in the face of every female executive who goes to work everyday. 

there is a very small ignorant portion of women who think like that but the majority want their children because once a child is born from your womb that is what you live for. Your heart beats for your child.  

Yes she needs to get a job and support her children and budget. I would not give her one more dime then what it takes to take care of the children. 

And heck no she is not responsible for his job. He was on the bubble before that. One phone call. Give me break.  

 
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February 23, 2006, 8:21 pm PST

that's it?

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I too saw two sides of the story and whether or not we recieve the complete details or just half truth we saw enough to know that they are both crazy.
that's the best u got? that they're both crazy? u heard a few minutes of edited talk show and they are both crazy? how come you don't have dr. phil's job? i mean if we can take a blurb from ones life and cast a stone that easy then i guess i would say you're retarded or is it retarted? it doesn't matter you propbably can't read anyway
 
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