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Topic : 02/27 Twisted Love: The Aftermath

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Created on : Friday, February 24, 2006, 11:20:56 am
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Dr. Phil follows up with one of this year's most talked about couples: Charles and Tracy. Charles had been juggling his time between his wife and mistress. He wanted to have them both, so he came up with the perfect solution: polyfidelity, a relationship in which he is shared by the two women. Tracy says she can't express her anger over the affair because she doesn't know how. Will she fight for her rights for the first time in 20 years of marriage? Charles claims he said goodbye to the other woman, but why did it take four meetings? Is it "goodbye forever" or just "goodbye for now"? Plus, their oldest son speaks out about his father's behavior, and Tracy has a message for the other woman. Talk about the show here.

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March 1, 2006, 4:51 pm PST

How interesting...

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The OW sincerely expressed to me (in our final meeting) that she would be returning with her former boyfriend........... 

  

BTW ....We were friends for 13 years and wanted our break up to be sincere...Tracy wasn't happy about it but it did work...she really is out of my life.......... Does'nt that benefit us now??? ...YES 

  

These women are spiraling out of control  ....They have no idea what is going on with us....... 

  

They are making judgments from a 40 minute show......... 

  

But it really is OK ....I needed a good smack in the face and I got it........ 

  

I don't pay attention to the venom on this board...it's just unresolved issues with their own lives..... 

  

Pound away people ....if it feels good...... well  

  

We know where we are headed. 

  

  

Thank you ........ for your wisdom ......  charlesontheshow@yahoo.com  .....and thanks for all of the positive emails as well............ 

Funny, you say you dont pay attention to the "venom" but you sure are here a lot, defending yourself and trying to sell us your supposed "reformation".   

  

I think you LOVE the attention, the notoriety.  People like you thrive on ATTENTION... ANY kind of attention is good to you.  It makes you feel important.. like a "powerhouse  and alpha-male" to use a couple of your ridiculous, self-serving descriptions of yourself.  

  

You are so transparent, it's pathetic.  You have no empathy, a huge sense of entitlement, grandiose ideas about your self and your omnipotence.   It's even more pathetic how you really truly believe these things about yourself and can't understand why we don't all just accept your superiority.   

  

One day maybe your wife will decide that her door-mat days are over and carry you and your alpha-male ass out to the curb with the rest of the trash. 

  

You're a sad excuse for a man. 

  

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:00 pm PST

02/27 Twisted Love: The Aftermath

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In no way is this message to come across as condoning 'cheating'.  It tears many lives apart most can never be put back together and usually inocent children suffer in the process.   

  

That being said. 

  

I am married to a wonderful man who once cheated on his wife and 4 children.   

  

All parties involved spent years in yell. 

  

Unfourtantly for the 'wife' who was cheated on- she's still in hell after 9 + years. 

  

We have now been married 6 years...lived together for 2 before that.  Yes everyone said it will never last blah, blah, blah....amazing how some corney saying about true love withstanding -is true.. 

  

If Charles fell in love truley in love, Tracey you could very probably will and should be history.   

  

I say that for at the very least why would you want him if that were the case.? 

  

If he didn't and it was really all about the 'sex and excitement'  you have a great shot of working it out.  I really hope that is the case for you.  

  

I'm sure you know which it was. 

  

Don't sell yourself short - you are a beautiful woman- don't hang on out of fear.  No one wins in that situation. NO one -least of all you and the kids.   

  

Charles you know as well what your true feelings are for this other woman- If it's love - don't drag it out it's so unfair to Both woman. 

  

ps....i too went out with an old flame to try to forget my man....it was just a temporary fix. 

  

  

TO THE OTHER WOMAN. 9 YRS DOESNT MEAN YOU WON. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT HOW LONG HE WAS WITH HIS WIFE BEFORE HE CHEATED WITH YOU. 

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:12 pm PST

CHARLIE "THE HEAD NODDER"

Dr. Phil, how could  you sit and watch that man nod his head  the whole time you talked to him? I would have had to put a frigging neck brace on him. He is the most cockiest man i have ever seen on TV.  "HE IS NOT ALL THAT".  I swear to god the first time i see him on your show, i  knew he would be back, he loves the spot light.  After watching your show yesterday with Charlie and Tracy,  He made my stomach roll,  it made me curious what that other woman looked like "man drop to their feet when they see her"  (his quote) ya right!!  Men like Charlie drop to their feet because he can't keep his head steady enough to study the subject in front of him because he is too damn busy being wrapped up in himself.  I have to tell you Dr. Phil, after watching your show last night, I went to bed dreaming about Charlie, How could you do that to one of your dedicated viewers? A nightmare i don't envy Tracy to waking up to every morning...I hope you don't bring him back, he loves the fame.  He don't deserve it.   As for Tracy, that poor Gal would be better off dropping Charlie for a night at the movies with "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"  she would get more satisfaction than what is sitting next to on on your stage... 

  

Thanks for listening to me 

Frustrated "thanks to Charlie" 

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:39 pm PST

Charles.......

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You people need to realize these shows were taped some time ago.........Tracy & I are happy again....the OW is making a life with her old boyfriend. 

  

You can not possibly know who we are from a 40 minute show. 

   

I think most of you did not see the show ...instead you are simply reading the Internet version on  this website. 

  

We ARE back together...... 

  

Now...... 

  

There is no excuse for my actions and I have had extreme remorse over all this. 

  

  

I was an arrogant bully, conceited, disrespectful,  immoral, an @#shole or slick.......that was yesterday. 

  

Today, I have recognized the above and am able to deal with those issues.... 

You said, “I think most of you did not see the show….” Charles have YOU seen those shows?!?! 

 

This isn’t a popularity contest!  

I watched you on both of the shows. Are you even a tiny bit concerned about the impression you left NOT once but TWICE with the audience including message board members? While you maybe feeling a bit unnerved with the comments, are you PAYING ATTENTION?!?! Does it concern you at all that thousands of people watched you and are saying that they don’t believe you?!? 

  

My last comment was VERY scorching and abrasive but if it even put the slightest scratch in that shield of a façade you wear around I sure am GLAD I made it! 

If you haven’t actually watched those shows I think that you SHOULD. I say that because I don’t think you spend a great deal of time LISTENING, not even to yourself! 

  

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ARE MAKING ANY REAL CHANGE, THAT YOU WILL RETURN IN 6-9 MONTHS TO THE SHOW AND SHOW US ALL A DIFFERENT CHARLIE THAN WE SAW IN THE FIRST TWO SHOWS!!!!! 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:06 pm PST

twisted love!!!!!!!!!!!

hi,  well   i think a man that cheats is a dog!!  if i ever have a man cheat on me  hes gone!!   cheating is a sin!!    i am a christian and i put jesus first in my life.   when i find the right man he will  be a christian and loves jesus..    a man or woman that cheats. don't need  anyone.   because all they are doing is hurting that person by cheating on  them..    no one should cheat.   but theirs some that do and they are not christians. 
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:07 pm PST

think about this

  Charles,  

you said that you exhausted your relationship with your wife.  

You can   exhaust something only if you just use it without nurturing it. It is like the soil. You can take its fruit, vegetables etc, exhaust it, but if you don't take care of it, nurture it, the next year it will be barren.  

  Veronika 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:10 pm PST

i understand

Dear Charles & Tracy, 

   I must admit that i too made arrogance a part of my life...but those days are behind me...it first attracted me cause of it's superficial high but i was naive...it made me insecure to my true friends etc...i see this in you, Charles cause it's making u insecure with ur wife...which led 2 ur infidelity...this has nothing to do with ur wife/childern...it originates from Charles cause of his way of thinking...being the 'alpha male'...it's prideful, boastful, concieted etc...the spiritual part of you is not on the right path...that's the key, this is where ur going wrong...this is where i found my peace and let go of my wrongful/sinful ways...instead of focusing on being the 'alpha' male, concentrate/focus on (eg.Christian) Jesus.  He's the forgiver of your sins, the truth, and Divine Mercy, who will lead you to the Father(God), whose beyond your own imagination.  You will be humbled, your TRUE IDENITY will unfold, you will end your false idenity of being the alpha male (a mask).  You will see your true friends, no longer be insecure to Tracy and the weakness that arrogance led u to infidelity will be behind you...no longer to worry any1...your wife/children/urself...i'm reaching out  to you cause you are looking for help to save yourself and your marriage...i have people very close to me who are arrogant and i've tried to reach out to them but it failed...maybe they were not ready or they couldn't see it for themselves...or it's just not their time...to speak on behalf of myself, i overcame the arrogance miraclously...i met some1 and somehow for the 1st time did not want to subject them to it, so i ended it...it's not that i didn't love my family and so i never changed for them but it was i believe just my luck/time/?   Arrogant people shouldn't be hated on cause of their situation, though it's hard to handle, but inside they 2 are human and IT IS POSSIBLE TO CHANGE...maybe even pray for that change, miracles do happen... 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:25 pm PST

loveing doesn't make one a whore

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before I'd allow a man to treat me like I'm his whore.   It's very difficult when you add in the kids, the car payments & the insurance sure, but what price doyou put on your self respect?  What price doyou put on your childs self respect?  Those "kids" will grown up *expecting* to treat or be treated just as their parents treated each other.  Again I'd eat from the can before I'd allow a man to do that to me or my kids. 

so here we go again, the women is a whore....WHAT is a man????????? 

  

My friend is very special to me and I to him.  We both have spouses that cannot make it without us.  they lean on us way way to much in life.  Sometimes you need to let go of all that stress and lean on someone else  for a few hours.   

  

I am treated with all respect by my friend....I feel no less, no shame. 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:27 pm PST

From Charles on the show

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You said, “I think most of you did not see the show….” Charles have YOU seen those shows?!?! 

 

This isn’t a popularity contest!  

I watched you on both of the shows. Are you even a tiny bit concerned about the impression you left NOT once but TWICE with the audience including message board members? While you maybe feeling a bit unnerved with the comments, are you PAYING ATTENTION?!?! Does it concern you at all that thousands of people watched you and are saying that they don’t believe you?!? 

  

My last comment was VERY scorching and abrasive but if it even put the slightest scratch in that shield of a façade you wear around I sure am GLAD I made it! 

If you haven’t actually watched those shows I think that you SHOULD. I say that because I don’t think you spend a great deal of time LISTENING, not even to yourself! 

  

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ARE MAKING ANY REAL CHANGE, THAT YOU WILL RETURN IN 6-9 MONTHS TO THE SHOW AND SHOW US ALL A DIFFERENT CHARLIE THAN WE SAW IN THE FIRST TWO SHOWS!!!!! 

Actually we choose not to see the shows on air........  

  

The producers sent us a copy of the unedited version.......  

  

The first show was REALLY hard to watch. I was insane.......  

  

The second was OK...... but all of you need to understand that we have moved forward with our lives since the actual taping. 

  

Watching the shows (for us) is like watching a re-run of a news show ......it's old news......... 

  

We are recommitting our vows.....20 years.......... stay tuned..... 

  

  

  

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:39 pm PST

Tracy...

You notice Charles responds to the messages ..not Tracy..?
 
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