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Topic : 06/12 On the Outs With In-Laws

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(Original Air Date: 02/28/06) Manipulative, violent and diabolical. These are just some of the words Anna-Laura uses to describe her mother-in-law, Janice, who she says is destroying her marriage. Anna-Laura says Janice hates her so much, she’s taken a swing at her and even threatened to hire someone to kill her. Janice denies the accusations and says they’re all lies. Where does Morgan, Anna-Laura’s husband, stand on the issue? After not speaking for almost a year, Anna-Laura and Morgan face off with Janice in front of Dr. Phil. With their relationship on the rocks, can Anna-Laura and Morgan find a way to end this war with his mother and save their marriage? If your extended family is spiraling out of control, find out how to get your relationship to take a turn in the other direction. Join the discussion.

 

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March 1, 2006, 5:11 am PST

Revenge a year later

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Guests can relay their stories civilly without seething with animosity, snide remarks & constant interruptions/talking over other guests.  Much of the MIL's bad behavior had occured over a year ago, so it's not like the DIL is still "shell shocked" from it. 

Thank  you for bringing up this issue. THe MIL hasn't talked to any of them for a year and then they bring her in front of millions of viewers to humiliate her ."They" meaning the controlling DIL and the manipulated son/husband... 

  

"They were threathening her on national TV "or else"... 

  

THe DIL wants complete control and she will go to extremes to get it and hurt anyone who gets in the way or at least that is how she presented herself...I mean, this happened over a year ago and they haven't spoken.  

  

No wonder the MIL is worried though I think she needs to let her son learn from his mistakes instead of  trying to rescue him because it is resulting in  revenge on the DIL and son's part... 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:15 am PST

Did not anyone notice?

  • I think his mother was in defensive mode.  
  • The wife was very manipulative....every issue she had was a she said to me and then she told her husband something...etc...
  • She yelled at the mother and said see she called him a wuss on national TV. 
    • Then the next sentance I am not dropping him to the curb, "he cant afford to live on his own"  ummm......not a big ego booster there.... 
  • If you noticed in the beginning they said she is much older then Morgan... 
    • It could be that they dont get a long becuase they are both wanting to be the primary "Mother" figure in the relationship.  Wife wife trying to control the entire conversation.
  • Now lets look at his behavior - he could barely keep his head up the entire show....shows signs of remorse, guilt etc... for going along with his wifes lies?   
  • From what i can see the wife cant handle something or someone she does whatever to get rid of them. 
    • His kids are gone....
    • now his mother....
    • Next?
  • Anyone notice the show ended quite abruptly?  The couple was gone....no last minute msg's from Dr. Phil.  no offers for professional help etc.. 
    • If I had to guess after the last segment the loud mouth wife said more crazy stuff and Dr. Phil just gave up. 
  • Morgan if you read this:  Leave your wife..Let the divorce go through...Get your Kids back and build a healthy life for them and only them.....But i fear if you stay with your wife your happiness will be sacrficed. 
 
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March 1, 2006, 5:17 am PST

Question?

I missed some of yesterdays show, could anyone tell me why this couples children were put into foster care, and by who?                    Thank You Very Much
 
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March 1, 2006, 5:24 am PST

I know that MIL

That mother in law is very much like my own.  Sitting there smiling that smirk. She puts on the great act in front of others as if she is shocked and in disbelief of all of this but it can be seen by those of us who have dealt with someone just like her.  The great liar!   

  

My MIL is just as controling and evil!  While the public sees a different person than what the family knows.  My Mil is one of those who is ever so sweet in public and knows just the words to say to the public but behind the closed doors the MEGALOMANIAC  comes out.   

  

In the early years I had suspected that she was vicious because of the way that she treated her husband and second son in public and private.  The emotional controler that she is ........when you don't jump the first time she says something then the emotions get even more enraged. She live for RAGE!  The Swears directed at the person with the insult.... 

  

One day she cornered my 8 year old daughter, litterly cornered in the bedroom.  She was saying " I don't f------ respect you and don't f------ care if you ever f------ talk to me again". My daugher was in the corner in the fetal position crying.   To an 8 year old child.  She really believes she has the right to say and do as she pleases no matter who you are. 

One day she said to my son " F----- worthless brat"  he was also 8 at the time. 

  

My mother in law told me one day that I should have to do what she says because she is older. 

  

We were staying with the in-laws while our home was being built.........things were getting very bad. She raged at everyone for any reason she could come up with.  During this time I had lost 4 people to death and one day she was raging at me ........" You are the uggliest person, I hate your F------ sad face, Your a F------ Bitch "  I had to tell her that I had just found out that I had lost the 3rd person to death and she didn't care.   

  

my oldest son, not related to her, from my first marriage.  I heard her raging in the boy's room. I went to see what what happening.  When I got there she was telling my son.  " You don't deserve  

F------ sheets on your bed because you don't know how to use them."  more nasty  stuff out of her mouth over the sheets........she was ripping the sheets off of the bed.  She didn't stop when I entered the room, she expected me to back her up.....    I told my husband and then he told his dad.  She didn't get the fact that she didn't have the right to speak to my son like that let alone that he does deserves sheets on his bed.  It was the middle of summer and he was sleeping on top of the bedding.  Who watches others to the point that they know how they are sleeping.  

  

She has threatened my youngest son that if he left antything else on the table that she would take it and shove it up his F------  ass.  to an 8 year old child. 

  

She truely believes that because she is older than me that she over rides my authourity over my children and can say and do as she pleases. 
She is very emotionally  and metally abusive to her family and is now even more pissed off at me because I haven't let her around us in 4 years now.  I had to make the decision to keep her away from the children because she is just that abusive.   By law, I am required to keep my children safe from all harm.  It hasn't been easy because we live in a small town and most in the town think that I am the one that is cruel.  I get the attitude from the people at the school and all around town because of the ACT that she puts on in public.   

  

I have never hated anyone in life the way that I hate her!   

On many nights in her house.............I would get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom........when I would come out of the bathroom.............she was right there in my face....inches away from my nose and raging at me that I was a F------ Bitch.   It got to the point that I didn't want to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom.  The last time that she did that to me ..........I went and woke up my husband and told him that she was at it again............that morning when we were leaving.....................she told my husband that we were not to come back again.........she was throwing us out  in the middle of the winter with 3 children.  It was presidents day and we live in new england and it was a harsh winter.  I know her reason for doing it was to put us in the position that we would crawl back and cower down to her as she wanted.  It didn't happen that way though..............we haven't gone back since......so much for power plays.   

  

several days after she wrote a note saying that she was feeling better and said that I should go to her house to talk...............at the end of the note she said that if we entered her home again without her being there "like to get our pillows"  she would call the police.....My husband went back to get the pillows and some clothing for all of us and I guess that pissed her off even more.   

  

We had to seperate as a family for a couple of weeks, just so we could have a warm place to sleep. 

  

My mom stepped in and gave us the money to stay in a motel until our home was finished.  It was very expensive lesson to learn that the MIL is so controlling and I guess I needed to learn that lesson.  Some people just don't feel that good about themselves that they tell everyone that they profess to love that they just don't do anything right ......she did tell me one day that she is perfect!   

I do believe that she thinks that she is perfect.  She can think that all she wants..........she won't be around us to tell us just how F------ stupid we are. 

  

sometimes in life it is best to get away from enraged people no matter what the relationship.  They say you can choose your friends but you can't choose your family......I say that you can choose what family memebers to hang out with.  You don't have to put up with abuse just becasuse it is family.  I am paying the price for keeping my children safe........the whole community seems to think that I am wrong and I am the big topic of the town.  I don't care what they think .............it matters to me what I think of myself.  

  

I believe that I am not only protecting my children but myself as well.   

I think that the wife and husband are correct in keeping the MIL away from the family....Good for them.   Abuse comes in many forms and no one should just take it.   

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:28 am PST

02/28 On the Outs With In-Laws

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Anna-Laura, 

DO NOT, under any circumstances, let your MIL succeed in getting you out of her boy's life! You give him a divorce, SHE WINS!!!! I am not suggesting that this is about who wins or loses. If she gets you to divorce him, she will control him forever. He should have stepped up sooner and stood up to mom but for whatever reason, he did not. Whatever caused his children to have either emotional or behavioral problems (eluded to in the show but not clarified) and possibly caused his first relationship to fail (hence the children) must have had something to do with mom because Morgan has not established his manhood with her yet. She was still very much in control of his actions. You had the guts to say you would not stand for it. If his children are better off in foster care than in your home, things must be pretty bad there. God Bless you for standing up and not taking her crap anymore. She is obviously lying about stalking you guys and NEEDS TO BE STOPPED! Do not allow her to influence you anymore. Allow Dr Phil to speak for you and give your family a chance. I know it's easy to say but IGNORE HER. Until she behaves in such a way that is respectful towards you and HER son and his children, do not allow her to have ANY power in your life. Dr Phil will help you do that. Resist the urge to give her what she deserves, instead give her what she needs.      PS Don't forget to take care of yourself through all of this.            With you 100%  Kathy 

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March 1, 2006, 5:34 am PST

Not always the Mother inlaw/Mother

My son was involved with a girl that was controlling and everything had to be her way or she would threathened my son with breaking up with him so he would jump like a kangaroo to keep her. 

  

He wasn't allowed to do anything without her permission and if he refused to give in she threathened him. He talked to me about it and told me he was scared of her. I am not talking about little threats. It was threats that would make anyone crawl. This girl was evil. She claimed satan was her God etc...when he first met her she claimed to be  christian. 

  

This woman wrote me email messages to tell me that she could and would make my son hate my guts . SHe added she asked him what God and her family has done for him and he said "not s--t" 

So she took him to her family, she called it (satanic church). 

  

Don't think for a minute I didn't get involved. I didn't behave like this MIL but honey there was prayer going up everywhere.......... 

  

This DIL(anna_laura) wasn't a sweet peach for sure........ 

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 5:51 am PST

Lesson learned

As I read, and agree, with everyone complaining about the MIL, I have to thank her for showing me what not to do when my children grow up and get married. 
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:06 am PST

SEMI INCESTUOUS DEFINITION

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What exactly is "semi-incestuous"?   

  

What is a "sorta divorce"? 

  

Why are the children in foster care? 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

The probable meaning of this is a relationship between opposite sex children and parents when the actions of the parent put the child in the position of being a spouse surrogate. It is called covert incest as opposed to overt incest which we all know means inappropriate sexual activitty between relatives too closely related to be married legally. Covert incest is where a child becomes the object of the parents love, passion & pre-occupation. The parent is often motivated by the loneliness and  emptiness of a  chronically troubled marriage where the father is distant or absent in Morgans life. (remember, Janice is married but where was he?) This relationship puts Morgan in the position of being his mother's social surrogate partner. Janice deepens and reinforces this covertly incestuous relationship by saying "Your my man of the house", "I don't know what I would do if I didn't have you to talk to" "Only you understand me", You and I have a special love" for example. The boudary between caring and an incestuous, "sick" love is crossed when the relationship with the child exists to meet the needs of the PARENT and not the child. As the deterioration between Janice and her husband deepens, Janice's dependency on Morgan deepens and becomes "creepy" with desperation, jealousy (against A-L) and disregard for personal bounderies. (remember, she interrupted them in their bedroom and stopped intimacy, drives by the house, violates the reestraining order, sues them, attempts to drive AnnaLaura away) Morgan appears weak because he has been overpowered by his mothers incestuous behavior from a very young age and gets the message that it is too hard to overcome and Janice drives home the thought that he belongs to her. He is imprisoned by her placing him in a position of being manipulated and used so Janice doesn't have to face her own troubled marriage. To Morgan, Janices love is more confining than freeing, more demanding than giving and more intrusive than nurturing. When AnnaLaura enters the scene, Janice behaves as a spurned lover and attempts to break up the relationship because her own "marriage" with Morgan is threatened. 

  

CREEPY, HUH?  Anna -Laura probably knows that it feels creepy without being able to put her finger on it but se surely knows when some other woman is out for her husband even when it is his mother. That's why Janice drives her so crazy and she came off as a bitterly angry woman on TV. I truly don't think Anna Laura is that way but she has not been able to confront the "other woman" who is ruining her marriage. 

  

As far as the kids being in foster care. The show said they were both born with special needs. I would guess autism or something like that and the tension of the situation really is hard on them. The show said they are living in a group home not foster care technically and chances are that they would be there even if Janice and Anna-laura were not fighting because the kids need more stimulation or 24 hour care or institutionalization.  MYSTERY SOLVED. 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:15 am PST

I know how you feel!

     Its easy to get caught up in this show and pick sides, especially if you are a mother-in-law, or daughter-in-law. But unless you have been in this situation, there is really no way to understand. Eversince I got married, my mother-in-law has been different than she showed before the marriage, just like in the show. I told her I wanted her in my life, especially since my own mother died 4 yrs into my marriage. She told me she did'nt need that in her life. It was heartbreaking. She wanted a relationship with my husband and my children, but not me and my children did'nt understand.She  did do tricky and manipulitive things to come in between me and my husband. I finally had to tell my husband I needed him to be my hero, my knight in shining armour. He did start to stand up to her. But he grew up with her and there is a side of him that turns to a little boy when he's around his Mom. We consulted two different Bishops in our church who talked to both sides. They asked her to look in a mirror and ask "what could she change on her part". She said nothing. The Bishop then told us that a man and wife should cleave to one another like the Bible says and be one.That literally means if your hurt or neglected by her, that is how your husband should fell as if it were him. He then gave us sound advice. If we have tried everything in our power to set boundries in our home and they could'nt meet those,which were just to accept us all and show love to all, to cut the strings and have no relationship. We did just that and my husband, through time has become more of a man, as I support him in being one and tell him often. His mother always made him feel like a child, but with no contact, he has grown and our relationship flourished. Do my kids miss the Grandparents? If they had loving ones to begin with that did'nt cause heartache, then maybe I could say yes. But your immediate family is why your here on the earth. Protect them with all you have. The door is open if they would ever like to become part of our lives, but it will be under our rules, to love and accept all. I will not have it any other way. Everyone needs to feel loved in this world, and that starts in the home. Just don't react to the situation anymore, it , through stress cuts your life span and takes time from your family to think and act on the in-law relationship. Oprah had a great show on a few years ago of letting go of toxic relationships. Go look it up, it changed my life! Good Luck and take time to enjoy what is good in your life, lifes too short!!!
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:36 am PST

Put your foot down

After looking at the show yesterday I just can't help seeing the same thing happening to me. 

I can see why the son hasn't done anything before.Being controlled by your own mother is almost impossible. It's hard marrying someone that your mother doesn't approve of. As for me when I married my husband I knew from the start that I was an outcast of this new family. I knew I tried to do all the things that I new to do as a newlywed but felt inside that I was never good enough. My husband wasn't be as supportive as I  have hoped for at the time. But just know that time doesn't heal the wounds but it does make you know that want you need to do.Sometimes being stubborn can be a good thing. After not speaking to my mother in-law for 19 years now I personally don't regret it. After my husband put his foot down and told her that if she tried to take my own kids away that she would never see him again. That did stop the harassing things that she was trying to do. The best thing that you can do is put your foot down and don't accept any actions from her. I've been happily married for 25 years that is no thanks from my  in-laws.  

 
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