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Merging two lives is never easy, but what do you do when you constantly fight the same battle? Darcy says she's tired of fighting with her military husband, Jeff, about disciplining her kids from her first marriage. She wants his drill sergeant inspections and interrogations to stop, or she's ready to call it quits. Jeff says she needs to tighten up and follow through with consequences. Whose job is it to discipline the kids? Then, they're $80,000 in debt, but nothing is going to stop Angela from pursuing her dream of becoming a country music star. She and her husband, Keith, have moved 13 times in the last two years, and have amassed $80,000 in debt -- a constant source of arguments. What advice does Dr. Phil have for this singer and her spouse? And, Nicole says her husband, Jeremy, is so obsessed with playing video games that he is neglecting his family. Will Jeremy see the negative effect his gaming is having on their marriage? Join the discussion.

 

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March 2, 2006, 5:30 pm PST

There is a support site for spouses of gamers!!

Ladies....go to www.gamerwidow.com 

  

I have been there many a night....Dr Phil......this is HUGE!  This is just as bad a alcoholism in terms of destroying a relationship and it deserves more than 7 minutes if you are going to talk about this addiction. 

  

  

 
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March 2, 2006, 5:34 pm PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Well Ladies it looks like we need to start a support group for women who live with gamers.   

  

My husband has been playing "WOW" online.  We fight about it all the time.  He says that the game relaxes him.  What has me scared is that the part that relaxes him is the KILLING part.  How could killing something be fun not to mention relaxing????  I asked my husband that  very question.  His response every single time I ask him is  "It just is" 

  

Am I being too picky? 

  

Am I supposed to tell him how he can and cant spend his free time? 

  

  

Im not saying hes a bad guy, because he is not.  He is a great guy and im lucky to be with him. 

  

But there is no quality time.  He works very , very hard, and very long hours.  If I ask him to spend time with me instead of playing the game he say's  "And do what sit there and watch TV no thanks" 

  

  

Its just so Jeckyl and Hyde, and thats not normally him. 

  

  

Nice to get some recignition that its not just my issue, its our issue. 

  

  

 
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March 2, 2006, 5:40 pm PST

Don't be stupid!

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One of the biggest fights that my husband and I have are other woman calling his cell phone. This has been going on for all of our marriage (1 yr). He tells me that these woman are just friends and that they have been friends longer than him and I have been together. I believe if these woman are such great importance to him than why haven't I meant them? I have meant three of these woman and have no problem with him talking to them.  Just resently my husband and I had been seperated and I have felt that he has talked to these woman and there are becoming more than friends. The reason that I have felt like this is because I recieved our cell phone bill and there are numbers on there that I don't recognize and that are at wee hours of the morning. What I did or had my friend do was call these numbers to see who they were. Some of these woman he had just met two weeks ago! I don't know if I am right for snoppy around and reading his cell phone bill. I need some advice. Should I allow him to talk to these girls? Am I wrong for feeling this way? Is this the pathway of him cheating on me? I need some possible answers.

Don't be stupid! Men who are married shouldn't be getting calls from other women. 

You are most definately right to feel like you do. 

My personal opinion.He is cheating ,or is thinking about cheating. 

Kick him to the curb or hire a private investigator to watch him. 

I hope I am wrong! 

Good luck! 

 
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March 2, 2006, 5:53 pm PST

wow

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I was watching that woman and man going through hell over their finances because she was bringing them to the brink of disaster because she thought she could be a famous singer.  First of all..she doesnt have "it".  She has a commonly good voice that you can find at any Karaoke contest across our nation.  She does not have that magical sound that gets people famous.  Plus, she is too old.  Young people are what is happening out there.  She passed her "window'"  But her talent, or lack of it is the main thing.  She does not have that good a voice to become famous. 


But here is my statement. I had the same life.  Not because I wanted to be a singer, but for other reasons.  My husband sat helplessly on the other side of our kitchen table with that same hang dog look while I was on the other side ranting and raving. I made his life hell. I ran things. I was a total bitch and our bank account was my one and only worry.  Even though I was aiding in our demise, I was calling the bank every day, making sure we had no bounced checks.  We were going from one payday loan place to the other...it was hell.  Well, unbeknownst to me, one day my husband got laid off and he was too terrified to face my wrath and tell me so you know what he started to do?  He robbed 14 banks over the period of 6 months.  Yep....I had no idea.  But all of a sudden, we weren't in debt anymore.  I thought he was making really good over time. He got his job back and was working and then when other guys were getting together after work to have a cold beer...my old man was hitting a bank on the way home.  I had absolutely no idea until one day there was a message on our voice mail that said, "Oh Honey, I dont know how to tell you this, but I am at the FBI and I have just been arrested for bank robbery.  I am so sorry and I will be in touch with you and help you get through this. I am so sorry. I just didnt want to see you cry anymore". 

  

So Missy...you be careful about how you make your man feel.  Mine was earning $32.50 an hour drivinkg heavy equipment and bringing home over a thousand a week and it wasn't enough...and he was doing all he could do. Now dont get me wrong. I am not condoning at all what he did...but I have to look at my part in this and he is a man and he felt his pride being taken away from him and he couldnt provide a life for us...so he did what he did and he fixed it...until the sick fantasy ended and he went to prison and I lost every thing...... 

  

Budget, stay with in it and dont go after pipe dreams.  She needs an honest friend to tell her that her voice is not worthy of all of this hell.  She isnt' going to "Make it big"...she dont have the chops. I love to sing too and I have a great voice. I got to do some recording and performing. But I am realistic, I know that I am just so good, not top of the heap good...neither is she. 

  

ok, have a nice day kids. 

  

sploozy 

I have to agree.  I have a lot of talent for singing, but wont let it demise my family.  I have a wonderful significant other who works for pennies compared to most but we make it work.  I think that in order for you to have a healthy happy relationship, you need to at least get out there and find a job and make singing your hobby.  If you love it so much, go to the local bar for Kareoke night and sing for that, because you will make the same ammount you are now too.   

  

You at least have to contrinbute a little bit of cash flow, especially since your husband has done everything he can to help get your dream off the road, but if it was supposed to happen, it would have and will, but not because you spent $83,000 trying to get there.  Join a band to play wedding gigs to pay off some of what you owe, but also keep in mind that only so many people get married and demand country western groups to perform.  I think that if you are going to complain about finances, you should try to make it easier before you yell. 

  

I handle the checkbook in our house too.  All I ask my boyfriend to do is deposit his check and take out money for gas and some for me for groceries.  We live within our means, and although he thinks I have a voice to "make it big", it is not something I am willing to risk.  If I never make it big, at least I know that my family was taken care of and never in need. 

  

To argue about money is pointless.  If you need a little more, you figure out a way to get that little bit more.  If you make so much you dont know what to do with it, donate it to a worthy cause, or put it away for a rainy day.  My boyfriend and I are open and honest with our bills and our spending that we have yet to argue period, not just about finances. 

  

We were having a really rough time last year trying to pay off our bills.  By October, I will be debt free and will start working on his debts.  I think that in order to be above water, you have to spend what you can afford.  I have cable after 2 years without it, but as long as I can still get my Dr. Phil fix in daily, then I dont need it.  It is a plus.  So are brand name foods, the internet, the long distance phone service, and most importantly, studio time for a chance you wont make it.   

  

I just wanted to ask her, What would you do if you dont make it, and all you have to show for you life, youre children, and grandchildren, is debt upon debt.  Not making ends meet?  It sucks to be pesimistic, and I do commend her on being honest and open with her dreams and her confidence in herself, but what about unplanned expenses?  What if the car broke down on the way to a show?  Then what would she do?  Charge it and worry about it later? 

  

That is the problem with credit cards and charge cards.  It is the reason I dont have one.  If I cannot afford the full ammount in cash, then I do without.  Building up credit is a wonderful thing.  It helps you get loans for things you need, ie cars, houses, educations, but at what cost do you build your credit so that within your lifetime, you cannot afford to pay it all off? 

  

I hope she does make it big so that they are not divorced and trying to pay for those proceedings along with all those bills, because how will they pay for all that?! 

  

Well, i guess I have said my piece on that... I am going to look for other things to comment on... 

  

butterphil 

 
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March 2, 2006, 6:12 pm PST

Better support group

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Ladies....go to www.gamerwidow.com 

  

I have been there many a night....Dr Phil......this is HUGE!  This is just as bad a alcoholism in terms of destroying a relationship and it deserves more than 7 minutes if you are going to talk about this addiction. 

  

  

I visited the gamerwidow.com site and it actually has t-shirts that say "i love my gamer" and other merchandise. If you want a real support group go to: 

  

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EverQuest-Widows/ 

  

I especially would check their links section. They even have instructions to find out if your spouse is having a cyber-affair through online gaming. 

  

Or visit Online Gamers Anonymous at: 

  

http://www.olganon.org/ 

  

I offer this information because I am a recovering online game addict. I know how bad it can be. I still crave the games and fight my addiction daily. I pray for you all. 

 
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March 2, 2006, 6:16 pm PST

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I have the same situation as Darcey at my home, but my husband has 2 girls of his own that come every other weekend in addition to my 2 children and the 1 that we have together.  My husband is constantly on my 2 children about doing one thing or another..they never get a break from the constant orders he bellars. I am always letting them off the hook because he is always on them..I am not dumb I know my children can be lazy and I need to make them do more but I feel he wont give me the opportunity to step up and be the boss..he is always one step a head of me. He feels that it is his home too and he should have a say in the rules and disipline with my children...all I would like him to do is be their best friend and let me be the bad guy but he refuses. But I do want to add that when his two come on the weekends they can do NO wrong they are perfect he hugs on them and is always telling them how much he loves them...that is all I want for my children unconditional love I think they will do more for him if he loved on them more...I just can not get him to see it my way.
 
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March 2, 2006, 6:24 pm PST

Maybe move out kids!

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I've been in those kids shoes before.  It is NOT the step-parents responsiblity to discipline the children!!  I moved out of my house when I was 16 because I was tired about being grounded for years. I am a responsible adult.  I went to college and paid for my own way.  I have lived on my own since I was 17.  I bought everything for me by myself.  I was a good kid when I lived at home.  I was grounded for forgetting to take out the trash, not because I a disrespectful kid.  My mother and I still do not have a relationship to this day and I am 27. 
Moved out at 16 too. Spent most of my life before that grounded. It's mean. It killed me to be around my neurotic mom. Just like Jeff. Sooo cold. I worked, and go to university. I've travelled the world and frankly, I think if Jeff doesn't soften up ASAP the kids should share rent out on their own. Freedom to be who you are, happy and free. Parents like Jeff showed me that friends can be the best family! Get prepared parents. I hope the kids are thinking over my words. Children don't need to be in a cold unloving home. It's terrible for mental health, which affects the physical health!
 
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March 2, 2006, 6:29 pm PST

Right on the money

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LOL...well, she may have a talent but she's $80,000 IN DEBT, honey. EIGHTY THOUSAND!! I have 3 college degrees and took out loans for them. Took me 10 years to pay them off but get this--I was certain, 100% I'd get a job when I finished.  

If she's so good, uh.......then why did she have to go on Dr Phil with her problems??? This message board is for people to COMMENT ABOUT THE SHOW. If she/you don't want comments, don't read it. Unless of course she just wanted exposure.  

I could n't have said it better.  I know a young lady and she is perusing her career. DAAAA she isn't in debt.   Well Free publicity is free press.
 
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March 2, 2006, 6:33 pm PST

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Quote From: sammie2828

Well Ladies it looks like we need to start a support group for women who live with gamers.   

  

My husband has been playing "WOW" online.  We fight about it all the time.  He says that the game relaxes him.  What has me scared is that the part that relaxes him is the KILLING part.  How could killing something be fun not to mention relaxing????  I asked my husband that  very question.  His response every single time I ask him is  "It just is" 

  

Am I being too picky? 

  

Am I supposed to tell him how he can and cant spend his free time? 

  

  

Im not saying hes a bad guy, because he is not.  He is a great guy and im lucky to be with him. 

  

But there is no quality time.  He works very , very hard, and very long hours.  If I ask him to spend time with me instead of playing the game he say's  "And do what sit there and watch TV no thanks" 

  

  

Its just so Jeckyl and Hyde, and thats not normally him. 

  

  

My husband plays WoW also... and I'm all for a support group. 

  

The game is the only thing he ever thinks about.  

  

I am trying to remodel the house and we will be "deep" (I use the term very lightly) in conversation about wall colors and furniture and he'll phase out  (I can actually see it happen) then suddenly he'll interrupt me with, "Did I tell you that I got a great Epic Mace in raid last night.  It was awesome!   We randomed for it and I rolled a 98!"  or something similar 

  

This is his second on line game.  He played Earth and Beyond before World of Warcraft... this has been going on nightly for three years.  And I do mean nightly, even on our wedding night! 

  

He no longer spends any time with me and the only reason he spends any time at all with our kids is because I demand it of him.   

  

It's gotten to the point that I just assume we aren't going to make love because the raids go on and on... forever...  And apparently, he would prefer raiding, though he was never that way before the MMORPG's.   

  

I watched this show hoping for some insight- a way to find some balance in our lives together- but was disappointed by the fact that he only spent 5 minutes on this.   

MMORPG's are destroying relationships...  there is a website:  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/EverQuest-Widows/ 

  

I believe that this is a bigger problem than Dr. Phil realized and deserves an entire show. 

 
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March 2, 2006, 6:34 pm PST

Yet another "WOW" widow

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 I completely understand her you come from, all the slashing and metal clanking sounds are just wonderful around 3 am.  I told him tonight if his games wakes the baby up at 3 am i told him that i would yank the internet line from the wall and the look he gave me was a look of, "i'd like to see you try" well, i guess im the next one to sign up for the support group.  I almost think it is a lost cause with me like ours.  lord help us all!!  Stephany

I was a little disappointed at the amount of time spent on the topic of computer game addiction in today's show, but hopefully there will be more later in the season. 

I have been with my hubby for 13 years, and this has been a problem from the very beginning. It has it's ups and downs, sometimes he isn't as bad as others, but it certainly puts a strain on our marriage. We have four children, and I have begged and pleaded and wasted many tears trying to make my husband realize that he's wasting precious time on the computer while the kids grow up before my eyes. My hubby, at his worst, would play from the time he got home from work, take a quick break to eat dinner, then play until he couldn't stay awake any longer. He would go to work tired, and not spend any time with us. If he was exceptionally tired, he would work, take a nap, then play the game. I have so much hatred and resentment for that game and his behaviour! 

For my hubby, the game is definately an escape, and a coping mechanism for anxiety about his life. He will sit in the dark, is his office, wearing a headset (headphones with microphone) and be laughing his fool head off, while I am sitting in the next room sad and alone. I have tried everything, including therapy, to get some help with this problem, and I feel like it definately IS an addiction. There is no way anyone would do these things, make excuses for themselves, lie about time spent, and be so disconnected with life if it wasn't an addiction.  

Dr. Phil, we need help learning about this addiction, and how to help our spouses overcome it!  

My husband works with computers for a living, and when the man on your show said he was "working" on his laptop while his toddler was standing there being ignored, it made me cry! My husband does the exact same thing! He will be "working" for HOURS, while I hear him on his headset playing and having fun, and then when I ask him for help with the children, he can't because he's "working"! He has his laptop open, but he's obviously not really ON IT.  

  

I really don't know what else to say about this topic. It's heartbreaking to think there are fathers all over the country missing out on the joys of their children and wives.  

  

So sad in Michigan 

  

 
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