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Topic : 03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Created on : Friday, February 24, 2006, 11:28:37 am
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Merging two lives is never easy, but what do you do when you constantly fight the same battle? Darcy says she's tired of fighting with her military husband, Jeff, about disciplining her kids from her first marriage. She wants his drill sergeant inspections and interrogations to stop, or she's ready to call it quits. Jeff says she needs to tighten up and follow through with consequences. Whose job is it to discipline the kids? Then, they're $80,000 in debt, but nothing is going to stop Angela from pursuing her dream of becoming a country music star. She and her husband, Keith, have moved 13 times in the last two years, and have amassed $80,000 in debt -- a constant source of arguments. What advice does Dr. Phil have for this singer and her spouse? And, Nicole says her husband, Jeremy, is so obsessed with playing video games that he is neglecting his family. Will Jeremy see the negative effect his gaming is having on their marriage? Join the discussion.

 

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March 2, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

Yeouch!

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 I am a stepmom of 2 boys one 12 the other 10 they live with there biological Mother My husbands ex livin, They never got married , Every time the boys fight or get into trouble during the week at there Mom's She calles Me to punishe the boys here on the weekend when they are here I feel like I am the green meany when the Boys are only here on the weekends  My husband is a over the road truck driver and only home on weekends himself so I have a problem cause then my husband has to correct the boys and then I feel like I am in the middle between My husband and the Mother
 It sounds like she has you by the short hairs!  I don't think its very fair for you to have to be the meany.  Can you toss it back to your hubby? It IS mainly his responsibility. It must really suck for those poor kids to be in trouble every time they see their  dad and you.If its going on a lot, then, its obvious that the form of punishment they get isn't working, anyway.It sure doesn't get easier in their teens and you don't have long for that. Good luck! 
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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What is the world coming to? I sat and watched that show, and got madder and madder! Who gives a kid the right to cuss at their parent, fight their parent, be lazy, disgusting and pitiful? I don't see how Dr. Phil could possibly side with anything those kids and their mother was doing. She claims she loves her husband, but yet she lies to him to cover up for her lazy tale kids. The daughter's room was DISGUSTING!! I don't understand anyone letting their children use foul language while conversating with them. What happened to respect your elders? And we wonder why there's so many out of control kids in our society. If we keep making excuses for kids, especially ones close to adulthood, we're all gonna suffer as a society. That kid would have been pitched out on his behind if I was that stepfather, and I would be telling his Mom if she didn't like it, she could go with him. That show was so ridiculous in my opinion. I couldn't believe how everything they were doing was downplayed. Who's going to want a woman who's nasty like that. Hopefully she'll grow up one day....The daughter's room was horrible! My kids are 30, 26 20, 19 and 10. I never would dream of allowing them to have their rooms look like that. I'm surprised that man is still there. She's going to be lonley if she keeps allowing her kids to act like that.  

  

When they grow up and move on, what's Mom gonna do?  Yes, Stepdad went a little overboard. But I think they drove him to it. Let's stop making excuses for bad behavior with our young people, and make them stand up to the plate, and prepare for the real world. 

I've been in those kids shoes before.  It is NOT the step-parents responsiblity to discipline the children!!  I moved out of my house when I was 16 because I was tired about being grounded for years. I am a responsible adult.  I went to college and paid for my own way.  I have lived on my own since I was 17.  I bought everything for me by myself.  I was a good kid when I lived at home.  I was grounded for forgetting to take out the trash, not because I a disrespectful kid.  My mother and I still do not have a relationship to this day and I am 27. 
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

Here's what bugs me...

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She thinks she has it bad. My soon to be husband plays his on line games from the time he gets home to sometimes 5 in the morning. And some how manages to get up for work the next day. On his days off he doesn't get up till sometimes 2 in the afternoon.  Talking about putting a strain on a relationship.
I know that video games can be addictive, but here again is a woman taking care of the house and kids and he says that he gives the children plenty of time...why did we see him "greet the kids" when he came home from work? His wife said that he sleeps late in the morning while she is caring for the children. Is this a pattern? Sure sounds like it. Daddy sleeps and Mom does the childcare and housework. What really has changed in the past 50 years? Only the technology and it hasn't helped women. It had just raised the expectations of what they are expected to do and provided more fun and games for the male.  
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:31 pm PST

Thank you

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"I do resent Keith for not stopping me from making poor financial choices," Angela admits.  

  

So it's her husband's job to make sure she makes good decisions? And if she makes poor decisions, she is entitled to feel resentful at HIM because of  the consequences of HER choices? 

  

Does anyone believe in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY anymore?   

  

WE are the only ones who control our actions, therefore WE are accountable for the results of our actions. 

  

  

Thank you for posting exactly what I was thinking. She resents him from not stopping her? HUH?  

  

Now I don't have to! ;-) 

 
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March 2, 2006, 1:31 pm PST

In Defense of Military Dad....

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 BOY BOY,  i am a wife of a soldier and i had 3 kids befor him and man if he did the crap this man on today did what he does he would be gone, but this dud needs to know military is work home isnt, he use the military as a cruch  for his rudeness, his miltary wife dont have a thing to do with the stuff hes pulling with those children its a nother reason, i got 3work for him , GET A LIFE,  my husband has been military 14 yr and has served 2 tours in iraq and  my kids do not go threw this nor do any of the military familys i know, he needs to get help. he needs to get over him self and what he does for a liveing and learn to be a father.

  

I feel like even Dr. Phil was a little too biased for the mother's side in this one.  Wait, I'm still watching it, I take that back.  (: Sorry Doc! :) But I just want to say, when both parents insist on everyone picking up after themselves and keeping their own living space relatively clean - these problems don't exist.  When neither parent holds the kids to keeping their own living space clean - these problems don't exist.  When the parents start singing off the same sheet of music, then and only then can this family get comfortable.  

  

I'd say sit down together, him with the list of things he thinks the teens must do and her with a list of things she feels they mustn't have to do and go down the lists reaching compromises that work for everyone concerned.   

  

But mostly -- it's sure nice to see a family where no one is just being mean and petty.... everyone of them has pretty good intentions.   

  

What a relief and reassurance. :))  I wish I could give all four of you congratulatory hugs.   

  

Lollie  

 
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March 2, 2006, 1:32 pm PST

Re Think this whole issue!

Darcy, 

I really think your husband may have been harsh at times, but from what you shared about your children, they needed it. I couldn't believe your son cussed at your husband. I couldn't believe your daughter's room looked like Katrina went through it. They need to realize you won't be there to cushion their fall whenever they get out into the real world. Let's stop making excuses for bad behavior, and prepare them for what's real. You deserve to be happy. Your kids are going to go on with their lives, and you will want your husband to be there for you. Why have him resent you and your kids? All he wants is for them to act like young adults. Him being in the military doesn't matter. That's just what he uses for guidance to discipline kids that should already have home training. He came into their lives after they were "cooked". That's a hard thing to deal with. I also have a blended family, so I do know what you're going through. Had your current husband been there from day one, maybe they wouldn't have had the problems they had before he came into the picture. Enjoy your husband Darcy. Don't allow your kids to ruin your happiness, while you blame your husband for it. One thing your son said was that he didn't want to be responsible for you guys getting a divorce. I hope he meant it.
 

 
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March 2, 2006, 1:35 pm PST

yes

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 You know that is pretty low of you to say. People that choose to play video games in their free time are NOT immature. Being a gamer myself I find that a little offensive.    There is nothing WRONG with playing video games in your free time.   We don't all ignore the people we care about, in fact a lot of times we go out of our way to INCLUDE them.  You obviously know very little about the gamer subculture as a whole.
 Yes, I agree.

The media dislikes games because it feels threatened by the compitition, and because it's slow to get into a new artform. It took a long time before people took Movies seriously, or rock music, or even some sports. At first people thought they were "childrens activities", but now everyone does them of all ages.

The average "gamer" is 31 years old. Yet, there is a vocal portion of the mainstream world left which still thinks games are immature toys, and use them as a scapegoat. There are comments like "winning the game" and "getting a high score" that makes me realise most people who bash games probably havent seen a game since PONG. It isnt a valid opinion.

The the husband wasnt addicted to 'gaming', he'd be watching TV or something. It isnt the game that's addicting, it's his wife that's loosing appeal, and he spends his time playing games both for the enlightenment, and to escape from her. Dont blame the games.
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:36 pm PST

Right on...a home is not a barracks...

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 BOY BOY,  i am a wife of a soldier and i had 3 kids befor him and man if he did the crap this man on today did what he does he would be gone, but this dud needs to know military is work home isnt, he use the military as a cruch  for his rudeness, his miltary wife dont have a thing to do with the stuff hes pulling with those children its a nother reason, i got 3work for him , GET A LIFE,  my husband has been military 14 yr and has served 2 tours in iraq and  my kids do not go threw this nor do any of the military familys i know, he needs to get help. he needs to get over him self and what he does for a liveing and learn to be a father.
Perhaps the mother here was a little weak but I don't really agree with the cleaning the room issue. I, like many other parents I know, didn't worry about  neat and tidy rooms inhabited by  teenagers when my sons were growing up. They were their rooms and as long as it didn't become a health issue (and it might have been a miracle that it didn't) we just closed the door or didn't go up! They did their own laundry and I thought that was great! Both grew up to be responsible (although not yet neat" young men.) Honor students in college (Have you ever seen a tidy college student room?) reliable in the workplace and still maturing. Dr. Phil says to choose your battles...and I think he got this one wrong. A kid's room is his place even if there is no soft place to fall! :) When it reached this stage, they cleaned it up without being asked. We didn't HAVE that many battles. Minor ones and hard to recall at all!   
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:38 pm PST

Video Game widow

         I used to be a video game widow. My husband and I got into numerous fights because he was always playing these online games and sometimes not coming to bed at all. I felt neglected. I decided one day to just stop screaming since it was not working anyway and now I play the games with him and he makes sure now that he does something that I like also. I used to fume about this but realized that at least he wasn't chatting online with other women like my ex used to, or downloading porn, or staying out late and hanging out with the guys at clubs or bars like some husbands do. Please try and see if there can ba a compromise. Try and explain how irresponsible it is to neglect work or the children and explain how alienated you are feeling when he doesnt come to bed ....it's ashame that men act like it's no big deal when all we want is to just be respected and adknowledged and if they just grew up and prioritized there wouldnt have to be fighting. I as a mom find it hard to divide my time but I DO IT.... 

 
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March 2, 2006, 1:39 pm PST

military husband/step father

I too am a military spouse and mother.  Most military men are not like that and there is a reason he was not married until he was 39.  The mothers first and most important job is being a mother.  She is those kids defender and champion and if they cannot count on her then they have a huge battle ahead of them.  I would not let my kids biological father (military man) do that to them let alone a step parent.  No decent military man would incorporate the military world into their home life.  It is a wonderful job if that is your calling, but it is not the role to build your family on.  Love, compassion and raising a healthy happy family is what home life is about.  If Jeff cannot change his ways he may not be meant to be a husband or parent.  Everyone can learn and change, but her first priority is to those children.
 
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