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Topic : 03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Created on : Friday, February 24, 2006, 11:28:37 am
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Merging two lives is never easy, but what do you do when you constantly fight the same battle? Darcy says she's tired of fighting with her military husband, Jeff, about disciplining her kids from her first marriage. She wants his drill sergeant inspections and interrogations to stop, or she's ready to call it quits. Jeff says she needs to tighten up and follow through with consequences. Whose job is it to discipline the kids? Then, they're $80,000 in debt, but nothing is going to stop Angela from pursuing her dream of becoming a country music star. She and her husband, Keith, have moved 13 times in the last two years, and have amassed $80,000 in debt -- a constant source of arguments. What advice does Dr. Phil have for this singer and her spouse? And, Nicole says her husband, Jeremy, is so obsessed with playing video games that he is neglecting his family. Will Jeremy see the negative effect his gaming is having on their marriage? Join the discussion.

 

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March 2, 2006, 11:08 am PST

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My husband plays World of Warcraft from the minute he comes home at 3:30 pm to anywhere between 10pm-5am.  We have two kids who he pretty much doesn't talk to and sure as hell never plays with.  This has been going on for about 5 years with all types of online games.  Our lowest point was in 2001 when he lost his job and spent nights on the game and days, when he was supposed to taking care of our son while I was at work, sleeping.  I'd come home and my son's diaper would be so full it'd be hanging off or fallen off all together.  My husband quit bathing, became a chain smoker, and our sex life was non-existent. 

     What turned it around a little was me trying to leave him for good.  So, he joined the Navy and cut game time down to 2 hours or so a day.  But, he's back to the all nighters.  I cope with it because at least he is working and my now 2 kids have a decent life, albeit void of a decent dad. 

     Why is the game so important?  My husband told me once that the game is his reality and maybe once our son gets old enough to play he could start forming a relationship with him.  (He did try to get my son to play Everquest when he was 4 yrs old, needless to say it didn't work out.)  He would also like me to get in on the game so our relationship will be better.  But, what if I turn into him and then our kids won't have a mom, too. 

     Our life now consists of him being on the game while I take care of the household, the kids, and basically do whatever I want as long as it doesn't interupt him.  I surround my kids with friends and family for a little male role modeling.  And my husband comes out for holidays. 

     I'm not sure if this will ever change, but I've learned to cope for the time being.   

I have the best Idea why don't you hire a sitter and make him payfor it or have the sitter nag him to take care of his kids or put them in daycare and make the husbend payfor it that would get the message out quick 

 
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March 2, 2006, 11:09 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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Big time denial. Most women who complain about their husband's behavior, and then justify why they do it, are in a huge denial. Like a woman who would say her husband has a drink or two, instead of 'he's an alcoholic'.

Hey, we did a lot things when were kids. That doesn't mean it's acceptable as an adult. Any MATURE man, and any man who isn't self-centered will NOT spend hours upon hours playing a game that never ends. And yes, being married 26 years does give me a better perspective. Marriage is a partnership. We both work TOGETHER. Sure, we disagree and NO neither of us leaves the room. We talk about things and if we don't agree on what we consider 'big' or important things, then we don't do them. Just because some kid plays video games at age 5 and has cutesy pictures of himself and his father, doesn't excuse the fact that he is a married man and with that comes responsibility. To his wife, to his kids, to his employer, etc. It's time to GROW UP. My brother-in-law started out the same way. Innocently playing games on line until the wee hours of the morning. Then came chat rooms, then e-mails and phone calls, then 'business trips', and finally an affair. His wife, despite her efforts to get him to stop with the gaming crap, was ignored. Fight after fight did no good. It came to a end when she confronted hiim, called the number on his cell phone and told the 'honey' that he was a married man with a daughter. BIL came home with his tail between his legs, and is now remorseful for what he's put his familiy through. All of this took 4 years to culminate.

I don't think I actually justified it.  I think I was responding to your post and telling you basically that you have no right to judge a person's character on a little snip it of time and i didn't and don't appreciate you telling my husband he needs to grow up or telling me that one issue defines who his character is. 

  

I didn't have us come on the show so overly opinionated people like yourself could berate and judge a situation that you know VERY little about.  My point in pointing out that he has played since he was 5 was to prove the point that it is something that has been a part of his life for a very long time and thus it doesn't prove that he is trying to escape me.   

  

Also, my husband is not your brother-in-law but if you don't think that I haven't had those same concerns, think again.  This is an issue that needs to be resolved and that is why I wrote Dr. Phil for his advice not YOUR opinions.   

  

NOTICE I HAVE IN NOW WAY JUSTIFIED HIS BEHAVIOR, all I have done is asked you to please refrain from juding a person's total character by one simple issue.  It's just not right. 

 
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March 2, 2006, 11:18 am PST

Dosent have to be in military.

I can sympthize with the womans whos husband treats her kids like they are in the military.  I married when my son was 10 years old.  My new husband is a perfectionist and I am far from that.  We had so many fights over my child.  I told him you cannot come into a childs life at that age and change him.  My son was not the baseball player that my husband was, or he did not try hard enough at this sport or that.  He did not work fast enough at his chores or do enough chores.  He had never had kids of his own, so it was fun for him to make my son jump when he said jump.  Well, the marriage went south because of this.  Now my son is 19 and we are thinking about getting back together.  This episode of Dr. Phil sure did help me see that I was right in a lot of areas.  I hope he can see it too!  Thanks Dr. Phil 

 
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March 2, 2006, 11:50 am PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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 Much like other hobbies, there are going to be people that don't understand said hobbies. 

My sister collects stuffed animals, and she's 23.  She had one child, and she's very mature for her age.

Some people have hobbies that could be considered "childish" by other people.  I figured as long as my sister isn't sleeping with stuffed animals and using them as a coping mechanism, it's all good.  It's kinda like the beanie baby phenomenon back in the day. 

Video games are the same way.

...and by the way, for those of you who think that video games are for kids and only for kids, why are more and more games getting "M" (mature) ratings (that is, the equivalent of the movie industry's "Rated R"?)  Surely, if I had children, I wouldn't want them playing Grand Theft Auto. 

So if video games are for children and Grand Theft Auto is not for children, then where is the target market for such a game?

The bottom line is that everyone has at least one hobby that somebody doesn't (and probably won't) understand. 

Just don't let the hobby get out of control.
Also the video game industry is a much larger and more profitable industry right now than the movie industry.  Just a note...
 

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March 2, 2006, 12:02 pm PST

Why did she marry Sgt Carter?

  

Why does this seem like a surprise to her?   

  

You don't have to live with someone to find out what they are like. 

  

Didn't she get any clues? 

  

Didn't her kids interact with him at all? 

  

It seems like she didn't really check things out (all of the dynamics) before creating this new family. 

 
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March 2, 2006, 12:20 pm PST

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Why does this seem like a surprise to her?   

  

You don't have to live with someone to find out what they are like. 

  

Didn't she get any clues? 

  

Didn't her kids interact with him at all? 

  

It seems like she didn't really check things out (all of the dynamics) before creating this new family. 

 
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March 2, 2006, 12:20 pm PST

Thank YOU!!!

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Angela just so happens to be one of my friends and I am apalled at all of these nasty comments that people saying! I suppose that some of you have'nt struggled at all in your life of just wizzing off with your comments about someone you are just so willing to snap off at...well, let me tell you something, Angela just happens to be very talented and has, I am certain, done a hell of alot more than you probably have in your lifetime. She happens to find her way just like any other celebrity or entertainer has. Angela has built her life with the support of her family and friends and, yes, FANS! Advise to all of you who do not know Angela, "Think about it...or do you have the capability to do so?" 

Hey I am one of Angela & Keith's friends also and I posted earlier.  I saw yours and wanted to say thank you for standing with me and supporting her.

I think it is terrible what these people are saying about them.  They are a great team and love each other, and hello they have a dream and guess what, if they can go through this, they can get to the next level of STARDOM without any problem.  As we both know, she ain't giving up and he won't let her!  So rock on girly, Angi you have my prayers and support!
 
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March 2, 2006, 12:29 pm PST

laying hands on a kid

What I can't understand is how Dr. Phil can call a military man, who has clearly been trained in hand-to-hand combat, who attacked a teenager who is much smaller and hasn't had similar training, as a good guy.  That's not a good guy- that's a child abuser.  Can that change?  Yes.  I don't think that the man has a bad heart, but a good heart combined with bad judgment doesn't make a good person. 

  

 
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March 2, 2006, 12:30 pm PST

Our biggest battle

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I can sympthize with the womans whos husband treats her kids like they are in the military.  I married when my son was 10 years old.  My new husband is a perfectionist and I am far from that.  We had so many fights over my child.  I told him you cannot come into a childs life at that age and change him.  My son was not the baseball player that my husband was, or he did not try hard enough at this sport or that.  He did not work fast enough at his chores or do enough chores.  He had never had kids of his own, so it was fun for him to make my son jump when he said jump.  Well, the marriage went south because of this.  Now my son is 19 and we are thinking about getting back together.  This episode of Dr. Phil sure did help me see that I was right in a lot of areas.  I hope he can see it too!  Thanks Dr. Phil 

Well, I happen to agree with the stepfather on this particular episode. I think our children have gotten to the laziest frame of mind ever, because we as parents have allowed them to lower the bar to the extent that they think everything is just suppose to happen without working for it. 

  

I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with making kids be accountable, no matter if they are 10 or 17. When those kids on that show grow up to be lazy and worthless, who's going to take the blame? Our society gives too many excuses for bad behavior, which is why our young people have so many problems. Whenever you have kids doing great things, it's against the norm, and it shouldn't be that way. Being "teenagers" is never an excuse for being disrespectful, nasty and lazy which is what I saw on that segment. I'm glad you and your husband are trying to find your way back to each other, because it certainly could have went the other way. When our kids grow up and move out, who's there for you on those cold nights? Not them! 

 
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March 2, 2006, 12:30 pm PST

03/02 Our Biggest Battle

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My 19 year old stepson.Ryan, decided to move in with us after high school graduation 6/2004. When he arrived he didn't know how to answer the phone, did not have his drivers license, know how to do his laundry, be accountable for his own actions. We have been working with him. He now has his license, a car, can answer the phone and take a message and is on his 4th semester at the community college, but  he is on academic probation.This has been a bone of contention since he moved in and is not a very good influence on our now 16 year old son. Last year we had him tested at a Learning and Attention Disorder facility and the report from the doctor  stated that Ryan is ADD, has encoding and decoding issues and also has depression and anxiety issues. As a step parent I can only do so much. I have had to force my husband to get involved. He claims he's working on it, but it's now March and Ryan is not in therapy or getting any of the help he needs. My husband and I argue about this on an ongoing basis. As a mother it kills me to see this happening under my roof. Ryan refuses to even talk about it and lies to cover up what he claims he's done or  that an appointment has been made.  Ryan will be 21 in 2 weeks - please help.
Okay, pardon me for being a little confused. You start out by making the insinuation that someone didn't do a very good job in raising your stepson before he came to you. (He doesn't know how to answer the PHONE properly?? Come on, that's really stretching it!  Hmmm, maybe he needed his father's involvement??? ) Yup, I have a grandson who has ADHD (20 yrs old) and he's terrible at doing his laundry too. You KNEW this child was part of the picture, but you blame him for your bad marriage, put him down, then say he is depressed and has anxiety  . For a kid like him that has the odds stacked against him to begin with, you are this child's worst nightmare. Shame on you!
 
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