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Topic : 06/23 "Stop Ruining Your Child!"

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(Original Air Date: 03/03/06) Has anyone ever told you how to parent your child? Maybe you find it annoying ... or maybe you're afraid they're right. Pam says her sister, Diana, is making huge mistakes when it comes to parenting her 5-year-old daughter, Sydnie, who scratches, kicks, screams, and terrorizes everyone in the house. Pam says Diana's lack of discipline and desire to be the "fun mom" is ruining her niece, and she's tired of being the only one trying to control Sydnie. Then, Stephanie is concerned that her husband, Steve's, yelling, raging and threats are damaging their kids. They've even separated because he can't get his anger under control. Dr. Phil gets to the bottom of the problem and uncovers a tragic loss from Steve's past. Talk about the show here.

 

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June 22, 2006, 10:49 pm PDT

screaming & yelling will affect the children

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I am 41 years old now, but I grewup in a household with a father who screamed and yelled all the time.  Take it from someone who has been there, its not fun for the children.  I was ashamed to have friends over, because I didn't know how he would be, and I didn't want other people to see what I went threw.  I was totally ashamed of him.  I was also scared of him.  He was like a
Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde.  You never knew if he was going to say hello to you, or scream at you for something that you did or didn't do.  It was anything but fun growing up in my family.  Being happy, we could be doing something as a family and having a great time, then all of a sudden my dad would start yelling about something, maybe something as simple as someone walked in front of him.  You would be imbarest by him, and the whole day would be ruined.  As a child that grewup living this way, take it from me, its know fun growing up afraid to say, do,or ask anything from your dad, because you never knew when he was going to blow, or how bad it would be when he did.  You don't want a child growing up like this, to this day, I'm afraid to say much to anyone, for fear of them blowing up.  You learn to loose your backbone at a very young age, just to save face.  As a mother of 4 myself now, when my children were younger I seen some of the same traights in myself with my kids.  I was not willing to let my kids grow up afraid of me, like I was afraid of my father.  It took alot of restraint but I did it.  It is had to break the cycle of what you know, because thats the way you grewup.  Living like that as a child, can ruin more than you know.
my husband and i have two children,i have a seven year old son from a previous marriage and we have a three year old daughter together.i am more of a lenient and soft spoken mom where as my husband is very loud and hyper and overprotective. i do" pleases" and " thank-yous" with the children as my husband yells everything (not using any manners) whether it be simply asking them to do  or get something.he grew up in a home where you had to yell in order to be heard and this has stuck with him to this day.and when he's mad WATCH OUT.my husband has also been verbally abusive to me which our son has heard for,four years(among other things) and now when dad shouts at mommy he runs to his room and closes the door.even when we go out grocery shopping or to a restaurant if something gets him upset  he has no problem raising his voice to the point of shouting  even though everyone heres and people stare  at him, it's so embarrassing for me yet he couldn't even care less he just keeps going on and on. when our daughter sees mommy crying she goes and gets me tissues and says" its o.k mommy ".i constantly tell my husband he needs to go for help( even though he's been to anger management quite a few times already) he says he knows he needs help yet continues to do nothing.I'm 35 and i know how  this has affected me for the past  four year we've been together i can't imagine and I'm saying this so whole heartedly how the kids are feeling.if this continues i will break free from him even though we've separated before and we keep getting back together. i know he can do it  and be a better person and deep down he is  good it just seems like something is stopping him and i can't figure out what that could be. it  will just take the right person to get through to him.so I'm telling all of you who yell or swear  just out loud not even at anyone take the ear plugs out of you're own ears and really listen to yourself  and here how stupid and embarrassing you sound, now imagine children listening.so to the lady who wrote in about her childhood and the affect the yelling had on her from her father  you're going to be alright and hopefully between you and i maybe we can make at least one person think before they yell or scream those nasty words.   -----------  cheers to you ------------     
 
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June 22, 2006, 11:09 pm PDT

last good nerve

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I cannot tell you how much I have been pushed as a step mom. My husband also has blinders on where his daughter is concerned. Now she is 17,  I met her when she was nine. She has a mom who wants to be her friend. She is now a drug addict and trys all kinds of emotional stunts. She totally disrupts the rest of our family, 4 kids and me and my husband when she visits. She also plays us against each other all the way around. This is a direct result of her mothers style of parenting and being "her friend" and not stepping up to the parent plate and making her accountable for actions. IF she graduates high school next year it will be my miracle from above.  

  

I understand as the step mother, I have acted immature and lost control of adult behavior. However, I do empatize with the other stepmom because no one can know how much these bratty kids can push you until you have been there. We are only human and sometimes it just feels good to drop a level and let it all out. We are the ones who try to make these step kids accountable and fight the ugly uphill battle against the bratty kid and guilt blinded father!  

  

Hang in there and try to find time outs as a step mom during those visitation times. Another thing that I have taken from the show is to remember that I have control on how I feel and I refuse to let my bratty step daughter ruin anymore time with me and the family. IF she chooses to act out that is her issue now, I can remain composed and have a good time around her crisis. I am not giving her control of my feelings anymore!  

  

Step Mom's, please message back! I feel we can all be stonger if we don't feel alone, and this is one role I really feel alone in. I think it is much lonlier than my single mom days.  

  I CAN RELATE TO  EVERY STEPMOM OF A DEMON SPAWN OUT THERE.   MY HUBBY WAS'NT ALLOWED TO BE A PART OF HIS SON'S LIFE FOR THE FIRST 7-8 YEARS OF HIS LIFE AND THEN HIS MOM GET'S CANCER AND TRIES TO CONTROL THE SITUATION FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE BY BASICALLY LEAVING HIM TO HIS AUNT AND GRANDMA .to make a long story short  HE'S BEEN MAKING OUR LIFE HECK FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS AND HIS DAD REFUSES TO SEE THAT THIS CHILD HAS AN EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE STREAK AND TEARS UP EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES JUST BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO CATER TO HIS EVERY WHIM AND WE DO THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN OF PUTTING LIMITS ON ELECTRONIC TIME (TV, VID GAMES , COMPUTER) HE DOES'NT HAVE ADD BUT HE LIKES TO PRETEND THAT HE DOES  AND IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO STOP THE LYING POINT BLANK PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW HE LIES ABOUT  EVERYTHING.   ESPECIALLY WHEN HE'S TALKING TO HIS DAD AND DAD IS SO RACKED WITH GUILT THAT HE DOES'NT CHECK HIS SONS WORK  ON ANY LEVEL. THAT IRRITATES THE HECK OUT OF ME.  I JUST WISH HE WOULD WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT A LITTLE SNOT HE'S NOT RAISING!!!!!!!!      TIRED AND FRUSTERATED, SANDIE, ORLANDO FLORIDA 
 
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June 23, 2006, 3:07 am PDT

Parenting

I'm a newcomer to the message boards, but an avid viewer of the show. Now that I am finally registered here, I hope to get more involved. Dr. Phil's parenting advice is remarkably consistent, and I wonder why it is not more readily apparant to viewers. He advocates loving consistency and parental agreement as to parenting practices. I learned this years ago when studying education and graduate psychology, and practiced it both as a parent and as co-owner with my deceased wife, of a child care center for 20 years.
 
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June 23, 2006, 5:41 am PDT

havent watched the show yet

but when it comes on i sure hope i dont hear that steve terroizes his kids becouse he was done this way as a child, thats a damn cop out ,i dont buy any excuse, thears no excuse for any man to be so cruel to his owne children, my father was simular to steve in alot of ways in this area, i know how it made me feel, all i could think was what could i do to get my dad to love me, not that he didnt but this is how i thought as a child,steve needs to stop all that crap now not later, i do not yell at my child i cant remember ever givining him so much as a spanking guess what hes 17 now i ment i wasnt doing my child as i was done as a child so you see thats why i dont buy that if your done this way as a child you raise your children this way bull, like i said i havent seen the show yet but im afraid im going to feel like steve just needs a good old fashiln ass whippin to straighten his ass out, children do not need nor deserve to be treated this way for any reason, and as far as spending hours of thearphy on steve hell no spend it on those poor children, thear the ones who need it steve is a grown man he knows good and well what hes doing, the children are the ones who dont understand why thear the ones hurting here, if steve hurt from doing this he himself would stop all be him self, like i said just a good old fashion ass whippin would change steves attitude probley 100%
 
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June 23, 2006, 6:03 am PDT

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when parents show the country how abbusive they are to thear children i pray you give thease tapes to family and children services, people doing thease acts truley need to be procuited to the fullest extent of the law, i know your trying to help thease people change, i havent seen anything but the preview video as of yet but damn im already mad as hell and its only 9am here still 1 hr till show time, i bet im going to be even madder by the end of the show, not at you tho at the parents im truley sorry for feeling this way twords them but when i see gods children being treated this way it gets to me, you need to pop the top of a can of woop ass on steve is how i feel as of now, maybe ill change my thoughts after ive seen the show, i relly dont think i will but one never knows god moves in misteryeios ways
 

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June 23, 2006, 6:12 am PDT

YOUR PASTOR'S WRONG

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i have a 54 year old mother whoright now my brother nor i can have a relationship with because she lies so bad. it is things from she has cancer to the color of a car. i have asked my pastor why or how do people become a conpulsive liars. he said it starts when their little and they find that they get great attention from it. well as the years go by you have to tell greater ones to keep the attention up. i have confronted until she would get so mad. i don't know if confronting helps but you can't let her live a life of lies because when she will need you, your not going to believe her. it isattention in the wrong way. good luck

Little kids lying to get attention, & keeping it up into adulthood to get more attention?     

   

I agree with your pastor that the problem started in childhood.  People are not born that way.  And different experiences could have the same result.   

   

I am your mother's age.  I'm not a compulsive liar by any means.  In fact, I've always viewed myself as very ethical.  However. I'm married to a man who becomes infuriated at my 'lying'-- sometimes even accuses me of 'lying all the time'.  Since he is not crazy...  and since I have a similar issue with my own mother...  I have had to take a hard look at myself.   

   

My grandfather was an unpredictable,  moody, abusive man.  Later in life I have learned that the abuse he dished out to my mother (his stepdaughter) started very young, and wasn't just verbal.  My grandmother was no help-- she was afraid of him.  When I was little I lived with my grandparents for long periods, so I got a lot of it too.   

   

When you are in the power of a raging, controlling parent, one of the things you learn early is to always seem like you know what you're doing.  This kind of parent is always confronting you with accusing questions.  You have to be quick and calm, with a truthful-sounding answer that is the one he wants to hear. The least little hesitation or indecision is like parading your weakness, and this sort of parent is like a tiger on the prowl, just looking for that weak prey.   

   

This is how both my mother and I grew into adults who-- to other people-- always seem a little TOO sure of themselves, and a little TOO quick with a story that makes themselves look good.  The type of person who always seems to come out smelling ilke a rose.  The sad thing is, the process starts so young..  you do it out of fear.. so it's really ingrained in you and you believe your own stupid fibs.  Very hard to face truth and improve yourself.   

   

Well, long story.  Just one of the many ways a warped parent can turn out one compulsive liar after another.   

 
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June 23, 2006, 6:24 am PDT

06/23 “Stop Ruining Your Child!”

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I dont need to see the show to understand this. 

  

My sister is constantly telling me that she wants to take me onto the Dr. Phil show for this exact same reason. I keep telling to go ahead. We are exact opposites. She spanks, yells, and swears at her kids. She is neglectful and hypoctical. I do not critize her, but probably should more. I do not scream, yell, swear or hit my children. I have a steady routine and am consistant and very protective. She is always saying something about my *lack* of parenting. (her opinion of course) 

  

We both live in the country. I was over to her house visisting. Both our children where 2 years of age. She wanted to send the energentic children out to play outside...unattended. When I said ok but I was going to go out with them, she proceeded to tell me how over protective I was and how she just checks on her son every few minutes. I said that a two year old just is not old enough to understnd bounderies and curiousity could too easily take over what we as adults see as logical no-no's. She then said that HER child knew and understood and it was my lack of parenting and talking with my child that made her not listen well. Also by not gining her opportuniies to have bounderies to break and get disaplined for when they do, how whould she learn how to listen about bigger stuff? 

  

A few short months later, I was talking on the phone with her while watching both my children outside. I mentioned that my son needed a diaper change and I stepped inside to grab one, about 10 seconds of being away from them. She was quick to tell me to be carfeul about leaving my children alone outside because one day she had sent her son out to play. She checked on him every few monutes but one time he didnt answer and could not be seen. She went out to get after him for going around the house, something he did often. But he was not thereeither. A few yells later and no answer, she got started to get scared. She started to look for him and right away decided to look down the road, a place he knew better than go, and figured he probably wasnt there. To her surprise (gasp) he was nearly a quarter mile down the road, just a few steps from walking to the national forest where he would have never been seen again. Of course she spanked him good and then grounded him in the house.  

She does not understand why I dont want to send out daughter over to spend the night anymore. There are other things, like pretending to shoot a cat after throwing it off a bunk bed. Spanking her for dumping a bottle of shampoo on her head after leaving her unattended in a bathroom, dog poop left in my nephews room for months, and long term issues with our daughter as results of these things, when she stated herself at just 3 1/2 that she did nto oant to be left there without mom and dad.  

  

Im pulling my hair out! And I went over there just after her second was born and spent the day cleaning half the house so that she could rest. Not once have I critized her. I try to be helpful. I mentioned that her new dog was pooping in her sons room just so that I could very gently make some awarness about it. Then she tells me it was a different dog months either that had done it. SO frusterating. And when her husband was hlaf an hour late home, he mentioned well she wasnt alone caue I was there. She told hime, I was there to clean the house cause he couldnt. Neither of them can! 

  

I cant wait to see the episode but I am telling you, I am NOT excited to hear from my sister about how much I can learn from it.  

  

Becky 

Becky, 

You are absolutely right not to send a two year old outside unattended, especially since it seems as though the yard isnt even fenced in. Your sister is an irresponsible mother, and if I were you I wouldnt send my daughter over there either. A two year old DOES NOT have the ability to predict consequences, nor does she have the ability to know right from wrong. She will not sense impending danger the way we do as adults. You dont need to learn anything from this episode, but I think your sister does if she is screaming at and spanking a toddler. Perhaps she should take a baby safety class, or a parenting class, or just develop some common sense somehow. And stop cleaning her house! If she and her husband are too lazy and enjoy living in filth, let them. If it is harming your nephew, then call in an anonymous report to child services. It's better to piss her off then let those kids be in danger, which they clearly are. And just for the record, I grew up living on a dead end in a quiet neighboorhood. My sisters and I had a fenced in yard, and mom still went outside with us until we were school age. And we never played out front until we were about 10. We are not scarred for life, we have the ability to make decisions, and to date, no one has ever been kidnapped or hit by a car, either.  

 
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June 23, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

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I was watching this and felt like I was watching myself and my sister-in-law.   

  

I have two neices...one is 7 and one is 4.  The seven year old his, bites, kicks, uses foul language, gives people the bird and the list goes on and on.  She hurts my three year old.  Her mother thinks that it is funny and cute when she calls people bad names and flips people off. 

  

My husband and I were talking with our three year old the other night and playing games and singing songs and he started playing with his fingers.  Come to find out the 4 year old neice was trying to teach him to flip us off when he is mad at us! 

  

  

 
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June 23, 2006, 8:33 am PDT

06/23 “Stop Ruining Your Child!”

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  I CAN RELATE TO  EVERY STEPMOM OF A DEMON SPAWN OUT THERE.   MY HUBBY WAS'NT ALLOWED TO BE A PART OF HIS SON'S LIFE FOR THE FIRST 7-8 YEARS OF HIS LIFE AND THEN HIS MOM GET'S CANCER AND TRIES TO CONTROL THE SITUATION FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE BY BASICALLY LEAVING HIM TO HIS AUNT AND GRANDMA .to make a long story short  HE'S BEEN MAKING OUR LIFE HECK FOR ABOUT 5 YEARS AND HIS DAD REFUSES TO SEE THAT THIS CHILD HAS AN EXTREMELY DESTRUCTIVE STREAK AND TEARS UP EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES JUST BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO CATER TO HIS EVERY WHIM AND WE DO THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN OF PUTTING LIMITS ON ELECTRONIC TIME (TV, VID GAMES , COMPUTER) HE DOES'NT HAVE ADD BUT HE LIKES TO PRETEND THAT HE DOES  AND IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO STOP THE LYING POINT BLANK PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW HE LIES ABOUT  EVERYTHING.   ESPECIALLY WHEN HE'S TALKING TO HIS DAD AND DAD IS SO RACKED WITH GUILT THAT HE DOES'NT CHECK HIS SONS WORK  ON ANY LEVEL. THAT IRRITATES THE HECK OUT OF ME.  I JUST WISH HE WOULD WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT A LITTLE SNOT HE'S NOT RAISING!!!!!!!!      TIRED AND FRUSTERATED, SANDIE, ORLANDO FLORIDA 

Woah. Take a chill pill lady. 

  

The mom is trying to control the situation from beyond the grave???????? Yea, I'm sure she got cancer on purpose and died just to make YOUR life more miserable. 

  

Look, this kid obviously has problems and needs some professional intervention, but the real problem is with your husband.  Quit blaming the child for his fathers inadequate ability to parent him.  Do this poor kid a favor, and the rest of the world before he grows up to be a menace, and get this child and his father some help.  Take all that energy you are wasting being angry at the boy and his DEAD mother and channel it into something useful - like saving this kid.  As Dr. Phil would say, this family needs a hero.  Step up to the plate and be that hero. 

 

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June 23, 2006, 9:26 am PDT

step-parenting

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Woah. Take a chill pill lady. 

  

The mom is trying to control the situation from beyond the grave???????? Yea, I'm sure she got cancer on purpose and died just to make YOUR life more miserable. 

  

Look, this kid obviously has problems and needs some professional intervention, but the real problem is with your husband.  Quit blaming the child for his fathers inadequate ability to parent him.  Do this poor kid a favor, and the rest of the world before he grows up to be a menace, and get this child and his father some help.  Take all that energy you are wasting being angry at the boy and his DEAD mother and channel it into something useful - like saving this kid.  As Dr. Phil would say, this family needs a hero.  Step up to the plate and be that hero. 

I so agree...  The situation may have been that his dad wasn't part of his like -- what went on between his parents is not the boy's fault.  But you have to understand what his loss must be like.  Whether it was right or not, he lost the main anchor in his life, his mother.  And whether she was a good person or a bad one, to him, she was the one who loved him best of all.  To lose her and have to adjust to having a relationship with a father who is nominally a stranger to him in the middle of his grief and to be all sweet and cooperative about it is unrealistic.    

   

So, to the stepmama -- This is not about you.  That kid has bigger problems than you do.  Be the grown-up, already.  

 
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