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Topic : 08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 7, 2006, 9:38 am PST

va beach here..

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I just finished watching the show, and have to admit I am scared of becoming bipolar. 

My sister was diagnosed with the illness 4 months ago, after years of being treated of manic depression.  She has a wonderful doctor now, who is listening to her and helping to find the right medication for her.  The show upset her because she saw herself in Cathy.  The only differance is my sister internalizes her anger.  My sister does not have support from her husband and children, and it breaks my heart.  She moved to Virginia from New York so she could be with us.  Her children are all adults and none of them bother with her, and she was always there for them. 

My sister did not really show major signs until after the death of our parents, grandmother, sister, and the loss of her job she truly loved.  I admire my sister for the fight that she is battling to get well, but she feels like she is fighting a losing battle.  I just pray that we will find the right medication for her, so she can live the rest of her live to the fullest.   

That brings me to the part that scares me.  I saw my mother, sister(who is deceased), and my neice in the show.  I know realize that they had the disease also.  I am praying that I will not have the disease also.  I haven't spoken to my neice in years because she has attacked me several times.  The last time she tried to burn me with a cigarette and pushed me down some stairs.  My neice refuses to take medication on a regular basis and has made having a relationship with her dangerous.  I know realize that she does not control her actions and will open the door for her, but within a safe distance.  I do have a 3 year old grand daughter to protect, and will have to make my decisions wisely.  Please send your ideas and feelings, or if you have dealt with similar situations. 

I will take the feedback with an open mind.  Thank you so much, Debbie 

hi i saw your post and wondered wher in va u live .. also who is the good dr your sis found.. my hubby has bipolar and we have gone tooo sooo many in our area..thank you ,tory 
 
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March 7, 2006, 9:52 am PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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I RARELY have blamed my bipolar II for ANYTHING.  I have actually told my husband, hey sometimes I'm just a bitch... lol 

  

He, on the other hand, has been known to blame my "illness", though completely under control with meds, and never severe, for HIS shortcomings - as in, I wouldn't be so upset that he lies to me or is mean to me if it weren't for my "fragile" state.... argh!  But that is another show...... :) 

I understand that.  Now that I am divorced, I am very careful when I meet new people to not share some of the challenges I face due to the head-injury I had years ago.  It is too easy for the other person to hold/use it against me or use it as an excuse for their abusive behavior. 

  

I remember my first husband used to tell me that I was taking it too personal...  how else is there to take it?? 

 
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March 7, 2006, 9:55 am PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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After watching the show I was disappointed that so much emphasis was placed on two such severe cases of Bipolar Disorder. There should have at least been some disussion of some of the other symptoms of the disorder. Very little was said about the dehabilitating depression that can accompany this disorder...or less severe manic episodes...which can still cause great problems. I have no delusions or the extreme anger. I have no thoughts of killing another person nor do I hear voices...but my life too is out of control. I am more apt to take my own life. I am on meds...but still unable to work. The right combination has not been found. Yet watching the show made me feel I had a completely different disorder...but I have been diagnosed by several psychiatrists and therapistas as being bipolar. My disorder is amplified by having Anxiety Disorder. Not a fun combination. I was very interested in the part about brain trauma. I suffered a very severe head injury when I was 19 but had never connected it with any of my current problems. I don't however have the financial ability to go to Brain Matters for a full diagnosis. It would be interesting to see what the scans showed. Is there anywhere in the Dayton Ohio area that does similar work?
I don't know if there are any in Ohio.  I looked into the Brain Matters website and they have a facility in Colorado and another in California.  Want to take a road trip??!!!
 
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March 7, 2006, 9:57 am PST

Sensitivity to medication.

I am a 36 year old married mother of 2 girls and I am Bipolar. I believe I have been bipolar all my life. I have been told that I am sensitive to medication which makes it extremely hard to find something that works. Seems this is also a hereditary problem as my mother (who doesn't have Bipolar)  has complained of a similar problem and now my youngest daughter who was diagnosed ADHD with tics, also seems to have this problem. Whereas when I first learned I had Bipolar and was given hope. I now feel as if the hope has been pulled out from under me with this second complication. I keep hearing how there have been leaps and bounds at treating this disorder and many like it but it seems to me that we are still nowhere near where we need to be. I can understand why medical tests such as the SPECT scan are not a routine procedure in diagnosing Bipolar and ADHD but when problems arise in treating the disorders then this certainly should become a priority.  If anyone knows of more information about medication sensitivity with Bipolar or ADHD, I would love to know. Thank you.
 
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March 7, 2006, 9:59 am PST

totaly agree

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Bipolar disorder is a serious illness and it manifests itself in all manner of serious ways, but let me ask all of you this. Do you think that sometimes people use the illness as an excuse for their shortcomings? Like a catch-all for all of the things they don't want to be held accountable for. Why did you do that? Umm, I dunno, must be the bipolar disorder. You really hurt my feelings. Yeah, well, I'm bipolar. I mean, it's a total slippery slope. 

  

I don't know what tomorrow's show will hold, but keep that in mind. A trailer where Dr. Phil asks, "Are you afraid you're going to kill your kids," sends shivers down my spine as it should to every bipolar person in America watching that show. I was so excited about the show, I told my friends to watch it. Oops! Now I have to explain to them, "No, I've never wanted to kill you or anyone else." It's just frustrating to me that we have this time in the spotlight and this is what we are showing America. 

  

I have a very severe form of this illness. I have been acutely psychotic in both mania and suicidal depression. I have never wanted to kill anyone else, on meds or off. I encourage those of you that have had the same experience with this illness to write a note so the people who make this show know how many non-violent bipolar people there are out there. 

I live in Central In. the show has not aired yet I am not so sure I want people who know me to see it. I have never tried to hurt anyone else, only myself., and than I hide so no one will see it. I am employed and on social security disability due to chronic bi-polar disorder. I will not let it get the best of me. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 10:02 am PST

Wrong Diagnosis and Alternative Methods

I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 10 years ago. 3 years ago a gastroenterologist found that I have celiac disease. After changing my diet and eliminating gluten (a protein in wheat, rye and barley), as well as casein (milk protein), I quickly recovered my old normal self. My moods regulated, I began sleeping a regular schedule, anxiety went away and the depression I'd been feeling for several years dissapeared. Within 6 months of adjusting my dietary needs and introducing basic multi vitamins and magnesium into my routine, I was able to safely eliminate the 3 medications I'd been on for several years. My psychiatrist was enthusiastic and very happy to see such a miraculous change in someone she'd decided could probably never really get well. My therapist has begun writing an article he hopes can be published in the American Psychological Association's magazine document the transformation. If it wasn't for that great gut doctor, an understanding and supportive therapist, and a smart psychiatrist, my diagnosis would never have been changed to what it is today: celiac disease. For information on celiac disease and gluten intolerance, check out the forum at Harvard's BrainTalk community board http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=141 and www.celiac.com  

  

There are several medical conditions besides celiac disease than can cause symptoms that look like bipolar disorder, a contentious diagnosis not yet scientifically proven to be a valid disease. Anything from phorphyria and pyroluria (genetic metabolic diseases), to vitamin deficiencies, vascular irregularities, temporal lobe epilepsy, forgotten head trauma, latent lyme disease, various viral and bacterial infections, to bad reactions to medications or street drugs. There are also many people with food and dye, and caffein allergies that when exposed chronically, could have a genetic tendency to present with symptoms similar to those of bipolar disorder. There's also an issue with thimerosal (mercury) preservative in the 30 childhood vaccines that can present as mercury poisoning in children and young adults. Mercury poisoning is very similar in presentation to the symptoms described in the diagnosis of bipolar disorder.  


For additional information you should check out the Safe Harbor website at www.alternativementalhealth.com  You could also look around on Northampton, Massachussetts support group website www.freedom-center.org where they have several links to support organizations and complementary and alternative resources.  

  

And remember: Never abruptly stop taking psychiatric medications you've been on for longer than 4 weeks. Always work with your doctor and therapist in trying to get off of medications safely. Educate yourself as to the benefits and potential dangerous side effects of all medications.  

  

God bless you all in your wellness....Antoine 

  

For additional information on medications, you should take a look at these websites: 

www.paxilprogress.org 

  

www.benzo.org.uk  

  

http://www.bipolarodyssey.com/index.htm  

  

http://chaada.org/  

  

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com  


www.psychrights.org
 

 
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March 7, 2006, 10:14 am PST

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hi i saw your post and wondered wher in va u live .. also who is the good dr your sis found.. my hubby has bipolar and we have gone tooo sooo many in our area..thank you ,tory 

Hi Tory, 

  

I live in Gloucester.  The Dr. my sister has is Dr, Newhouse and is located in Kilmarnick.  I go to every visit with her, which is weekly right now.  He is not the type of Dr. that tells you to come back in a month to see how the meds are working.  He wants to know if you have any side effects right away and does not want to see you in a drugged state.  I have called him with concerns about my sister, and he will do anything to help.  I have a lot of respect for him.  My sisters meds are still now where they need to be, but he will not give up and promises that they will find the right meds for her. 

  

My sister lived in NY and has had her Dr.'s there tell her she just had to give the medication time and has been hospitalized on several occasions.  Not once has she received the care or concerned that Dr. Newhouse has shown her. 

  

I wish you all the best, and I know that it is difficult at times.  My prayers are with you and your husband.  Please let me know how it goes, Debbie 

 
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March 7, 2006, 10:20 am PST

Why I am concerned

In 2001 I had been working at a job for six years. I was given an award as an outstanding employee. Shortly thereafter my employers found out I was bipolar, and I was fired. I am afraid  that sensationalizing the illness will continue the bad feelings that employers have about the illness and will continue to cause people to lose their jobs. Employers seem to feel that people with bipolar disorder will go postal at the drop of a hat  and I fear that a show such as this one will just add to such fears. But again, I have not seen the show yet. I am just fearful from watching the promos...
 
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March 7, 2006, 10:21 am PST

It will make you do crazy things!

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My husband was recently diagnosed with bipolar, He claims that it was being in a manic state that led him to the lies and the affair. Any thoughts from anyone? How could he have turned off the mania so well and lied so well for almost 4 months? 

  

Yes ,I do beleave your husband. Thats when my Manic was at its worst I left state with a co-worker (male)for 3 days and no one knew where I was.After I realized what I had done I was ashamed.Went home to my husband and children,the next day I was hospitlized and dignoised with Manic Biphloer.The treatment was a joke they just put me on so many meds i couldnt think.After a few weeks they cut me back and I returned to work.Once at work I felt over whelmed by guilt and shame I ran out and dont remeber the drive home.I ended up trying to take my own life.after months of more treatment I returned to work again battleing with myself.With med breaks I only got worse and worse 5 years later I had another bad eposed,with thoughts  of anger and wanting to kill some of my co-workers.I ended up trying to take my life again and again.I no longer try to work or even be around people,I lock myself in my house and only go out when I have too or when I feel Manic I will go spend money we dont have.Over Christmas my husband admitted he has 1 foot in the door and 1 foot out the door.It was the worst thing I thought I ever had to hear,what this has done to him and my kids.This illness is NO JOKE it can kill just like a tearminal diesse.And my Father thinks I am crazy and wont have nothing to do with me! My mind goes and goes til I am exsusted and I get nothing done.So please support those who have it and be opened minded and love them with all your heart.
 
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March 7, 2006, 10:22 am PST

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Sorry, but I think at this point you should be ashamed of yourself.  Don't get me wrong: this is a result of a lack of education, but you should be ashamed nonetheless.  You don't tell someone in a wheelchair that they can stand up and walk if they wanted to badly enough!  Therefore, you don't tell someone with bipolar disorder that they can control their ups and downs if they wanted to badly enough! 

  

Many people don't look at mental disorders in the same way as, say, a physical disorder.  Mental disorders aren't as transparent.  If someone's missing a leg, you can see that, and if you're good at seeing things from perspective, you can empathize with the person (you may not be able to do so to the point of emulating the exact experience that person had, but...) 

  

Don't get me wrong.  Some people do hyper-exaggerate their limits, making it easy to use their disorders as an excuse for their actions.  Their actions are not any more right because they have a disorder, BUT...if they were able to exercise full control of their actions, it wouldn't be a disorder, wouldn't it? 

I don't get it. .  She  has been denied Social Security disability 2 times.  The denial letter states that there are jobs out there that she could do.  So  I guess they think she can control the outbursts. 

maxxy 

 
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