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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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August 1, 2006, 7:33 pm PDT

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My beautiful wife of 7 years, and mother of 4 kids (2,11,12,14) left me a month ago saying that she wasn't happy.  Her mother is bi-polar and paranoid schizophrenic.  She broke down when she was 27 when her father left her.  My wife is 27 currently and had a nervous breakdown about 4 years ago. She took anti-depressants for about a year and a half then stopped taking them because she said she didn't need them anymore. She was hospitalized for about 10 days and when she was in there promised her that if she ever got sick again I would never leave her.  My wife told me when we started dating that her worst fear was "ending up like my mother".  Now shes been gone for a month, she found an apartment and moved the same day.  She went the whole month without seeing the kids or even calling them.  This is my wife who a month earlier would cry when we left our baby over my parents house for 1 night to go out.  She has dropped out of college, which she had started 3 weeks before she left, she has lost three big real-estate account and she has missed so much work at her regular job that she is in danger of losing that Job.  She moved far away from any family or friends and has tapped herself financially to the point that she is broke.  She refuses to go see anybody and starts yelling at anybody who says that she needs to get help.  We have come from being broke to living a very comfortable life and it is all falling apart.  I don't know if I should file for divorce and take the kids or fight for her and see what happens.  I love my wife with all my heart and never thought this day would ever happen.  I don't know what to do.
 Just be careful you are fighting FOR her and not with her - you cannot force her to comply, and insisting will only drive her further away.  Have you ever had to catch a loose pet?   The principle is much the same.  Help her decide for herself to do the right thing if you can.  Seeing a counselor about  how to do t his might be helpful.
 
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August 1, 2006, 7:39 pm PDT

Not a Accurate View of All People with BiPolar

Dr.Dr.Phil,

In all typesof diseases there are different people who represent diseases. I think these were poster folks from hell. They were more angry and selfish not all disease. I believe alot of people use their disease to get what they want attention and excuses for lack of control. The lady in your show was just a selfish immature stressed out mom. I believe her when she says she has bipolar but I also believe she has the normal everyday problem like everyone else that is called Anger Management.

She was just a out of control excuse of a immature adult that should of been scolded at 2.

I think medicines can make her a zombie but I believe that theraphy and life tools can make a better change in her.

My heart broke for her children they do not deserve that abuse. SIck or not. She is aware of her anger and that is evil to be so mean to someone so helpless in a controlled atmosphere.'

Her hitting and threatening them is Child Abuse!

No telling what was going on without the cameras.

She has alot of resentment and thinks she can get away from it with her disease.

I think they should be taken out of her home and be put in theraphy, she obvious could care less.

and the stress causes her to rapid cycle.

The children would be more scared and hurt staying with her and learning her habits.

That is my honest opion.

I love children but enough that if i was that bad I would want the best for them.

She is more then Bipolar she is a Abuser!

 

I wished you would of represented Bipolar as what Bipolar is.

that is just mood swings and memory loss or lack of concentration -

Over medication causes halucinations.

not all violence and wierd stuff.

happy and sad .

Not all dramatics!

I am embarrased to say I have bipolar because of the misrepresentation of it.

There is alot of bad apples out there that give us a bad name.

Just because they refuse to take care of themselves

and stay within a good report with friends and family.

take medicine and see their doctor.

I have Never been mean of Violent.

I have Never been a scary person.

It is no different then a normal as you say person

who is suppose to eat right exercise and see their doctor

some are fat and out of control depressed drunks drugs etc.

some are with diabetic eat wrong food and sugar

chlosterol patients eating fat

it is all choices when you want to get better but know you can not be well

you chose to let others help you know when your starting to cycle and

learn how to cope with those cycles.

such as dont go in public when your depressed and have lack of cordination

stay home and rest

dont push yourself accept yourself it is only for a ride you will return to the beautiful self again,

God made you with a chemical imbalance

I believe so we could be more sensitive and creative to others in life.

If you look at history at all the famous

Bipolar people you would see they were very intellengent and productive people.

 

There is more out there they just hide because of the nuts that like to hide behind the disease

and the excuses!

 

thanks for listening.

 

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_believed_to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder

 

 

 

 

 
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August 1, 2006, 7:43 pm PDT

Bipolar disorder and medical?

I am diagnoised with bipolar disoder and also diagnoised with Cushings Disease which is a pituitary tumor which secretes too much cortisol which also regualtes all hormones in the body. I am always up and down. They call it rapid cycling. I have been on a number of medications and nothing seems to help. They are now suggesting shock treatment for bipolar.  I do not know if I really want this. My moods latley have really been low latley. The doctors do not seem to listen and give me meds that in turn make the depression worse because seritone seems to higher cortisol levels which mine are too high now. All of this is confusing for me and I am starting to really loose hope. It seems as if no one is listening or if they are they themselves do not understand. Does anyone out there who has bipolar ever feel as if you have done everything you can and took the suggestions of everyone around you, but you are left standing alone out in the dark and no one is there? Does anyone become so cold that they actually just become numb and feel as if there is no hope?
 
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August 1, 2006, 7:58 pm PDT

my brother in law

I am a health care professional, married to one, and have a brother in law who is a pharmacist.  My wife (her brother) and I feel he may be bi-polar but he will not seek professional help.  How can we convince him this is in HIS best interest, and not seek help just for us?  Who in San Diego is best equipped to connect with him to sort out his highs and lows!?
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:00 pm PDT

I know my husband must be bi-polor

I have been married for 46 years and many of those years have been hell, yet I love my husband and have suspected for many years he had something wrong with him.  I wonder if I might be bi-polor as well.  One of the things that attracted me to him was our similarities. We both came from very disfunctional families, my father is a recovering alcolholic and my mother suffers from extreme depression.  When we were dating my husband was one of the few fellows who was able to look beyond my family problems.  So, when I saw the weird behavior of his father, mother and brothers, even though his oldest brother was the worse of all.  His brother  has since been diagnosed with bi-polor disorder and has had to be committed twice.  My husband's doctor diagnosed him with depression and perscribed Paxil.  He refused to fill the perscription and I was concerned, until I started finding out about bad results of anti-depressants such as Paxil on bi-polor patients and I am sure the doctor is wrong.  He has two brothers diagnosed with it, and his father, in his final years believed President Reagan had his house bugged.  He believed he knew critical government secrets and the FBI and the CIA was out to get him.   My husband isn't that bad yet but he has paranoia and thinks everyone we know is plotting against him.   He went through a spell when he thought the same thing about me, then he thought I was on drugs and that I had an affair, none of this was true.  I was able to reason with him.  His brothers were perscribed Lithium and it helped his brother that died and since his oldest brother is back on his meds and taking the Lithium again he is showing improvement.  So, since his doctor won't perscribe Lithium and he doesn't want to keep shopping around for a Dr. who will perscribe just what he wants, I talked him into taking Lithium Oratate, we can get it through nutrition centers without a perscription.  He has been taking it for about four months now, and while he still suspects everyone we know at least he isn't accusing me.  But, once in a while he blows up and yells at me for no reason but he never gets physically violent, so I guess I can handle that.  
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:05 pm PDT

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Dr.Dr.Phil,

In all typesof diseases there are different people who represent diseases. I think these were poster folks from hell. They were more angry and selfish not all disease. I believe alot of people use their disease to get what they want attention and excuses for lack of control. The lady in your show was just a selfish immature stressed out mom. I believe her when she says she has bipolar but I also believe she has the normal everyday problem like everyone else that is called Anger Management.

She was just a out of control excuse of a immature adult that should of been scolded at 2.

I think medicines can make her a zombie but I believe that theraphy and life tools can make a better change in her.

My heart broke for her children they do not deserve that abuse. SIck or not. She is aware of her anger and that is evil to be so mean to someone so helpless in a controlled atmosphere.'

Her hitting and threatening them is Child Abuse!

No telling what was going on without the cameras.

She has alot of resentment and thinks she can get away from it with her disease.

I think they should be taken out of her home and be put in theraphy, she obvious could care less.

and the stress causes her to rapid cycle.

The children would be more scared and hurt staying with her and learning her habits.

That is my honest opion.

I love children but enough that if i was that bad I would want the best for them.

She is more then Bipolar she is a Abuser!

 

I wished you would of represented Bipolar as what Bipolar is.

that is just mood swings and memory loss or lack of concentration -

Over medication causes halucinations.

not all violence and wierd stuff.

happy and sad .

Not all dramatics!

I am embarrased to say I have bipolar because of the misrepresentation of it.

There is alot of bad apples out there that give us a bad name.

Just because they refuse to take care of themselves

and stay within a good report with friends and family.

take medicine and see their doctor.

I have Never been mean of Violent.

I have Never been a scary person.

It is no different then a normal as you say person

who is suppose to eat right exercise and see their doctor

some are fat and out of control depressed drunks drugs etc.

some are with diabetic eat wrong food and sugar

chlosterol patients eating fat

it is all choices when you want to get better but know you can not be well

you chose to let others help you know when your starting to cycle and

learn how to cope with those cycles.

such as dont go in public when your depressed and have lack of cordination

stay home and rest

dont push yourself accept yourself it is only for a ride you will return to the beautiful self again,

God made you with a chemical imbalance

I believe so we could be more sensitive and creative to others in life.

If you look at history at all the famous

Bipolar people you would see they were very intellengent and productive people.

 

There is more out there they just hide because of the nuts that like to hide behind the disease

and the excuses!

 

thanks for listening.

 

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_believed_to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder

 

 

 

 

I, too, believe that Dr. Phil did not have an accurate reprentation of all forms of Bipolar, in fact, both cases were Bipolar II, not Bipolar I, the harshest.  There are so many of us who take our meds as prescribed, those who can live a quasi-normal life; intelligent human beings living among the population at large.  In any case, I saw myself in each of them in one aspect or another.
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:15 pm PDT

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Quote From: adw110976

I am diagnoised with bipolar disoder and also diagnoised with Cushings Disease which is a pituitary tumor which secretes too much cortisol which also regualtes all hormones in the body. I am always up and down. They call it rapid cycling. I have been on a number of medications and nothing seems to help. They are now suggesting shock treatment for bipolar.  I do not know if I really want this. My moods latley have really been low latley. The doctors do not seem to listen and give me meds that in turn make the depression worse because seritone seems to higher cortisol levels which mine are too high now. All of this is confusing for me and I am starting to really loose hope. It seems as if no one is listening or if they are they themselves do not understand. Does anyone out there who has bipolar ever feel as if you have done everything you can and took the suggestions of everyone around you, but you are left standing alone out in the dark and no one is there? Does anyone become so cold that they actually just become numb and feel as if there is no hope?
Just to let you know something that no doctor will tell you...  I've had many, many shock treatments in my life, and yes, they saved my life.  BUT...  I will never get one again.  I had a really, really rough 3 years or so, and I would say that I had probably 6 or more a year.  I'll never do another one because of the memory loss.  Yes, they saved my life because I was suicidally depressed, but I'm living with the after effects right now.  I was an extremely intelligent and articulate person before the ECT's, but now I search my mind for words.  It can be embarrassing.  Well, I just thought you should know.
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:23 pm PDT

Bipolar

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Dr.Dr.Phil,

In all typesof diseases there are different people who represent diseases. I think these were poster folks from hell. They were more angry and selfish not all disease. I believe alot of people use their disease to get what they want attention and excuses for lack of control. The lady in your show was just a selfish immature stressed out mom. I believe her when she says she has bipolar but I also believe she has the normal everyday problem like everyone else that is called Anger Management.

She was just a out of control excuse of a immature adult that should of been scolded at 2.

I think medicines can make her a zombie but I believe that theraphy and life tools can make a better change in her.

My heart broke for her children they do not deserve that abuse. SIck or not. She is aware of her anger and that is evil to be so mean to someone so helpless in a controlled atmosphere.'

Her hitting and threatening them is Child Abuse!

No telling what was going on without the cameras.

She has alot of resentment and thinks she can get away from it with her disease.

I think they should be taken out of her home and be put in theraphy, she obvious could care less.

and the stress causes her to rapid cycle.

The children would be more scared and hurt staying with her and learning her habits.

That is my honest opion.

I love children but enough that if i was that bad I would want the best for them.

She is more then Bipolar she is a Abuser!

 

I wished you would of represented Bipolar as what Bipolar is.

that is just mood swings and memory loss or lack of concentration -

Over medication causes halucinations.

not all violence and wierd stuff.

happy and sad .

Not all dramatics!

I am embarrased to say I have bipolar because of the misrepresentation of it.

There is alot of bad apples out there that give us a bad name.

Just because they refuse to take care of themselves

and stay within a good report with friends and family.

take medicine and see their doctor.

I have Never been mean of Violent.

I have Never been a scary person.

It is no different then a normal as you say person

who is suppose to eat right exercise and see their doctor

some are fat and out of control depressed drunks drugs etc.

some are with diabetic eat wrong food and sugar

chlosterol patients eating fat

it is all choices when you want to get better but know you can not be well

you chose to let others help you know when your starting to cycle and

learn how to cope with those cycles.

such as dont go in public when your depressed and have lack of cordination

stay home and rest

dont push yourself accept yourself it is only for a ride you will return to the beautiful self again,

God made you with a chemical imbalance

I believe so we could be more sensitive and creative to others in life.

If you look at history at all the famous

Bipolar people you would see they were very intellengent and productive people.

 

There is more out there they just hide because of the nuts that like to hide behind the disease

and the excuses!

 

thanks for listening.

 

 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_believed_to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder

 

 

 

 

I am bipolar and can agree with you to an extent. I little about bipolar is that I believe medications can cause you t mean, sad, depressed, angry and so forth. It takes a long time to get meds right and somtimes you can not get them right. No matter how much you try some time you are unable to control you moods and how you feel. I have the only thing that I can do is try to control what my actions. When I know I am irritable I will lock myself in my room. When I am in public and get mad (ex. at a group I was at) instead of fighting I walked out. I have a really rough road as everyone who lives with bipolar disorder. It effects every area of your life. That is why I am going to school full time to become a writer. I have a hard time around people and I can not keep a job. I love to write and with new technonlgy one day I will make it. I can also research and write in jouranls for things like bipolar. That does not require being around people. Another thing that is commonly associated with bipolar is Self injury which is somtimes the only way to deal bipolar. i have taken meds, tried theropy, groups and a number of things and things only get worse for me. They are suggesting now shock treatment. I have lost everything do bipolar including family and friends.  I have no suppoert and what is worse and alot people have the same problem is when the endrcine system is also complicates treatment. we are talking things like tyroid disease, brain tumors, and things of the nature.  I do not believe everything to be ones fault and do not understand why people tend to blame us for being bipolar. It hurts enough to know that this disease will one day take us. Then on top of it we have people blame us too. where is the hope?
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:32 pm PDT

You are dead on my friend...what are you doing about 'self medication' if anything?

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 I catch the Dr. Phil show occassionally, but today was one that my grandmother actually asked me to watch with her, (she's trying tounderstand my problems).

    I am a hypermanic bipolar,which means that I typically spend more time in my manicepisodes.  My mania is invigorating, inspiring and also personally dangerous.  While I do not act out physically on anyone, I am prone to grandiose ideas, am extremely talkative and can empty my entire bank account and all my savings in one day.  My depression,while not as frequent is definately an intense down-time.  I withdrawl from my family and friends, become highly irritable... simple questions can make me so mad... as do strangers on the street... no one is safe from my anger

   While I was growing up I knew that something was wrong, but I was always told by my parents that I was experiencing "typical teenage angst" and that medicine was not the answer.  It wasn't until I had gone to college and enrolled myself in therapy that I figured out what was wrong.  At that time I started re-reading old journals.  Because I had these journals I didn't have to do the 8-10 years of diagnosis indecision.  My cycles of ups and downs were right there before me.  I had a cycle of disappearing from my journal every three to four months for a duration of about a half a year.

   The real reason I'm posting this is because Ido not have the extreme polarities that Dr. Phil portrayed on the show,but I do have life experience as a functioning bipolar.  However,where I have not taken prescription drugs to help me out, I have resorted to "self-medicating,"and have done so for the last ten years.  What was not mentioned on the show is the tendency for bipolars to have a chemical dependencies in order to control their moods.  An important thing to watch for is excessive use of illegal substances.  My drug of choice was marijuana because it definately "leveled me out" and for the longest time I thought it helped me to think and stay calm.  I thought it kept me in control.  Since having come to that realization,  I'm trying to manage my stress, diet and lifestyle to cope with my disorder.  I just thought that there definatley were very important messages that should have been made during today's show.  I was disappointed that such valuable knowledge was passed over for what seemed to be a more "crowd pleasing" presentation. 

I share your story with my brother-in law (see my post) is exactually where you are...and I would challenge you to replace the self medication strategy with a medication monitored by a trained professional.  Would it not make sense to replace marijuana with a drug that might actually help in a way that might solve the problem?  marijuana may help you therapeutically but what about the thousands of others it may not, or just make them paranoid or apathetic?  Your thoughts?  You might already be on that path, so please comment!
 
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August 1, 2006, 8:47 pm PDT

hang in there

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I am bipolar and can agree with you to an extent. I little about bipolar is that I believe medications can cause you t mean, sad, depressed, angry and so forth. It takes a long time to get meds right and somtimes you can not get them right. No matter how much you try some time you are unable to control you moods and how you feel. I have the only thing that I can do is try to control what my actions. When I know I am irritable I will lock myself in my room. When I am in public and get mad (ex. at a group I was at) instead of fighting I walked out. I have a really rough road as everyone who lives with bipolar disorder. It effects every area of your life. That is why I am going to school full time to become a writer. I have a hard time around people and I can not keep a job. I love to write and with new technonlgy one day I will make it. I can also research and write in jouranls for things like bipolar. That does not require being around people. Another thing that is commonly associated with bipolar is Self injury which is somtimes the only way to deal bipolar. i have taken meds, tried theropy, groups and a number of things and things only get worse for me. They are suggesting now shock treatment. I have lost everything do bipolar including family and friends.  I have no suppoert and what is worse and alot people have the same problem is when the endrcine system is also complicates treatment. we are talking things like tyroid disease, brain tumors, and things of the nature.  I do not believe everything to be ones fault and do not understand why people tend to blame us for being bipolar. It hurts enough to know that this disease will one day take us. Then on top of it we have people blame us too. where is the hope?

I understand trying many different medications and trying many different test. I have learned the hard way of errors and am willing to give advice.

I am a strong survivor of alot of hard knocks.

I do not judge anyone so please do not think that I just get so sad when I see people get the lack of

knowing the knowledge and person of the real disease.

I pray someday they find a cure.

I am a hopeful!

If your Rx makes you irritable and nervous then you are probally needing to adjust it talk to your dr.

My doctor lets me self adjust with my husband. It works great for me.

You are smart realizing that just because we have a disease we do not have a excuse to

control everyone else and taking away their rights and happiness.

Hang in there you can keep a journal and learn tricks of ways to make it easier for you

to adjust to the world.

There is harder meanier diseases out there dont forget.

we do have life and we should enjoy

and live it to our best and most!

best of health to you!

 
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