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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 7, 2006, 1:25 pm PST

Re: you got a problem !?

"Bi polar is just like having a heart condition- it needs to be fixed with a doctor, and meds... and there are complications until it is fixed.... "

I agree completely. In the context of a heart condition, there are personal expectations. You have to take care of yourself and pursue treatment.  If someone who had a type of heart condition did not pursue treatment, did not take care of themselves, and therefore where unable to support themselves *because* of that worssening condition, I am not going to agree that they have no responsibility in their current situation if they do irreversible damage to their heart.

It is similar to any mental illness. You recognize you have a problem. You still have some control over your behaviors. Yes, it is hard. No you don't always succeed until you have a real handle on a good treament/managment plan. But I still think it is a jerky thing to not persue treatment of any kind  especially when it has such devistating effects on your family.


 

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March 7, 2006, 1:25 pm PST

I am living with bi-polar

I am a 27 year old wife and mother of 3 living with this devestating disorder. I am on the brink of losing my husband because of my behavior when I was off of my medication when I was pregnant. I seemed to be doing OK in my own head so I decided not to go back onto my meds after my son was born. I quickly spun out of control. There were times I would scream and be so angny but an hour later I wouldn't even remember why I got mad. I jumped out of the car and started walking on Christmas Day with my kids in the back seat and my husband driving. That was the day he said he was going to leave. I had always been on medication so he never really knew about my disorder so I had to tell him. He said he would stay if I would go back on my meds. I have since gotten a lot more under control but my medication isn't doing what it did before I was pregnant.  

I want to thank Dr. Phil for putting a face on the disorder- I just wish he would have also shown a person who is trying to be better and making progress. I would have liked it to represented more of us but I soooooo appreciate the light he is shining on a lonely life like my own. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

om does it get worse

i had an accident a little over three yyears ago and finally i got someone to listen i felt different.  i am bi polar and am trying to find a med that will work.  my relationship is over.  i am now a single mom. i see things happening to these people and am wondering am i going to get this bad. right now i just cry alot and get very depressed. sleeping that is only about two to three hours a day but the doc says depokote might help but i have seroquel for back up.  my ex would not be there for me when i was having trouble relating to the feelings i was having.  he was drinking and doing drug and womanizing and that did not help with the stress of that along.  since he has been gone i do not go into anger fits but i still am having probs with the depression and wondering when i will have the energy just to live again.  I love life.  I am lucky to be here and am grateful but i do not want my children to see the mood swings and am going to stay on my meds. i went off of my first set do to a rash and i could see how it was effecting my family i do not care if i have to take this the rest of my life i want a happy home for my boys.  if anyone has something else that could help me i am all ears.  we are doing better my boys let me know when my moods are starting to change and help me handle the mood i could not wish for anything better.  my mom is on anti depressants and my gma was to my dr said more than likely we got it from them my bro is on med for depression as well.  it makes since about all the things that happened when we growing up. thank god someone listened when i told them something is wrong and help me before i end up in a hospital.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:26 pm PST

Will it ever end?!

I have been struggling with a list of impairments for most of my life. As recent as 2004 I was finally diagnosed with, Depression, Anxiety, Social Anxiety, Panic Attacks, OCD, Personality Disorder, PMDD(Pre Menstrual Dysphoric Dysfunction) roughly  PMS x's 10, And now I have the nerve to be peri-menopausl. I have been on 5 different meds, Paxil, Prozac, Wellbutrin, Venlefaxcine and Buspar; all of which had it's own un welcome side effects. I decided to not take any of the meds but to simply avoid the situations that provoke the symptoms. It definitely works for me, I sincerely believe that meds only mask the problem temporarily.  I don't come out of the house often but once I decide to...I get pissed if others are out and can see me. I only check the mail or take out the trash if it is dark out. When I shop, I seek stores that are open 24 hours therefore I can shop while others are hopefully at home sleeping. My preference of association is with "my self" I am just glad my children are all adults and love me unconditionally. They joke about wondering what mood I'm in, but it embarrasses me to go from beauty to bitch in 0.3 seconds, for no apparent reason. 

  

I have noticed a little of these impairments in my daughters, I have a sister or two that's been diagnosed bi-polar, so we tend to share causes and effects.  I want to join the world but, I think I am doing just fine right here, inside alone! There is so much more to be said but, I am expecting Dr. Phil himself to come snatch my keyboard as this is way too long already!!!   

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:27 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

Hi, I was diagnosed with BipolarII about 4 years ago. I went from doctor to doctor before an amazing psychiatrist actually read my medical records. I had a car accident in 1998 and suffered a closed head injury, my neurosergeons could not operate on my brain because I was bleeding internally too bad. I did not know, neither did my family that Bipolar disorder was linked to closed head injuries. People without Bipolar disorder sometimes do not understand anything about the disorder, a lot of my family read on the internet the symptoms and then started picking at everything that I did. The best way to understand is to talk to someone and say "I don't know what it's like to be you". Mother-in laws and Bipolar disorders DO NOT MIX well.  I am sick of hearing every thing I do blamed on Bipolar. If i want to move furniture around in my house, it's because I'm bipolar. If I get excited over anything, it's because I'm bipolar. Well to be honest I have seen people who aren't bipolar move furniture and get excited over small things. Currently I am off my medication because my husband and I are trying for another baby, also probably because I am bipolar. Everything was fine until my family FOUND OUT I was not on meds. Since then they have told me to give up my dream of having another child just so they can live with my mood swings. Well I am in this world too!! Their feelings are not the only ones at stake here. I am well aware of my disorder, if I could change it, I would. I don't like not knowing if I will be able to get out of bed the next day, or knowing whether I will go trade my car or spend a lot of money. It needs to be understood that decisions like that are made in a stage of euphoria. You aren't thinking about the reprocussions of your decisions when you are making them and you certainly don't care what everyone else is going to say. Also, when you are down, it physically hurts to move, let alone get up and try to function. When I am down, I sleep a lot, don't eat or drink anything, my head hurts all the time, and I don't come out of my pajamas. When I am high, I can't stop, I can go without sleep for days, I don't think about anything but what I am doing in that moment. I spend lots of money on things I don't need, and can't remember why I bought them, I talk so erratic that no one can understand me. I go from talking about one thing to another, it's hard for people to keep up.  I would like to thank Dr. Phil for having this on his show. It's real and people have it. It's part of my everyday routine and it effects everyone I come in contact with. Especially my close family, and I am truly sorry and I feel I shouldn't always have too.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:28 pm PST

"psycho remark"

I think Dr. Phil made it perfectly clear during the show that Cathy used the term phycho to describe herself.  NOT HIM.   

  

I myself grew up with a bi polar mother, grandmother, brother, sister, and 2 aunts and an uncle.  I was resently diagnosed with bi polar disorder.  It is the most frustrating disease I have ever encountered.  Not only because a lot of the time I can function as a normal person, but because I feel crazy or "psycho" when I snap.  It is very difficult to come to terms with because we enjoy our manic cycles so much.  I am finding that a lot of people who suffer from Bi polar disorder also suffer from Paranoid schizophrenia.  This is where the voices etc. come in.   

  

I encourage anyone who has problems that look like it could be bi polar disorder to seek treatment immediately.  The sooner you get help the sooner you quit setroying your life and the people you love.  I think that you get worse over time and that once you get really bad you can never go back to the person that you were before the disease.  You are forever changed.  GET HELP NOW!!! 

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:29 pm PST

I've been where you are

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I am 30 years old and my mother is bipolar.  My life with her was hell.  I was mentally and physically abused by her on a daily basis for 23 years.  I was abandoned by her more than once.  Always to be returned to her.  I watched all of my siblings get taken away from her by the state.  Never me though.  She always managed to be perfect when they came to investigate.  I remember wondering why I wasn't good enough to be taken away from her.  I have had years of counseling and nothing will ever repair all that she did to me.  I think it is wonderful that the people with bipolar get help, but what about their kids?  Haven't they suffered enough?  Who is going to help them?  Who is going to fix their lives?  Why do they have to stay and be forced to suffer even more.  If you can fix someone with bipolar that's great, but you should be trying to save those children before you do anything else.  If you don't how do you think they will treat their children?  By the way my mother did get help.  Over and over again.  Right now she is in jail for abuse of a controlled substance.  The help didn't help her.  She has been a crack addict for 8 years now and her 4 children are still paying for what she did to them.
Counseling does help, and yes some of the damage is permant.  I won't bore you with details of my life with my bi-polar mother but your story is just about the same.  I walked away from her and never saw her again.  She passed away  three years after my leaving.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:31 pm PST

Bipolar Disorder Message Board


“Patients suffering from Bipolar disorder face many difficult challenges. Share your story and get support from those who understand.”

http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/254/msg/id/263477/#263477

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:33 pm PST

now what do I do?

Ok, I have seen the show now and I feel worse than I have felt in over 2 years. I wrote down a lot of things in response to the show but they don,t  matter. I'm to down to mess with it. I have never threatened to kill my kids. I never beat them either, I have beaten myself though. I don,t want to go to work now, what if someone there saw the show? They won,t like me now. Fred was cool  but  the woman was way out there. why didn,t they check her brain? Bi-polars have triggers and that show certainly was a trigger for me.  I take my meds and do what I,m  supposed to do, I have not abused any drugs, I no longer self medicate. I feel after watching the show that I never should have been honest about my mental illness, It should have remained a secret. Now I want to dissolve, never to have been. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:33 pm PST

Being Bipolar

 I have been reading the different posts about people experiences with this desease and I am actually thinking how lucky they really are.  This may sound so strange but they are lucky in the sense that they can actually show their pain in action.  If they feel like screaming they can scream or act in any way they want.  With me, I am terrified to do that.  If I do, I know not only would my roomate kick me out of the apartment, but I would lose my dog.  I would become homeless.  I live in a fog 24-7.  There is no light anywhere for me ever.  I write and make web sites and I play the role of the hopeless finding hope.  You see that is what is expected of me.   I am expected by my son, my roomate and his daughter, all my friends - the few that I do have, and even my shrink to behave in a fashion that is aceptable to soctiety to during the day, I am on a very tight string, I pretend so much that I have forgotten who I really am.  When I am alone in my room I cry in my bed alone.  Screaming in my pillow, praying for death to come, but it never does I wake up in the morning still alive, still in the fog, still angry.  With no hope in site.  I am on Divalproex,  2000 mg a day, and also, Lithium, 300 mg.  Also, I have to take estrogen, Synthroid for my hypothyodism.  Seems that everything that is wrong with me works against itself.  I know that maybe I am not as bad as others, but than as we all know we can't compare each other and that we all respond to the dease differently.  Well, thanks for listening.
 
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