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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 8, 2006, 10:51 am PST

Bipolar Disorder Show...

      I suffer from Bipolar I Disorder.  I have always been told bp II disorder was less severe and you only get hyo-mania and depression rather than the full blown mania.  Both people on the show seemed to have full-blown mania according to the experiences that they told.  I can totally understand the whole on and off meds situation...I have tried like 30 different meds...and within those  I have tried and retried many of the same meds in hopes to find the right combo....now on the simplest of combos...and sort of works, sort of not.  I was told early on hallucinations and delusions were a bpI charachteristic and so was not being able to sleep for like 4 days or more at a time, but I guess it depends on when you got your Bipolar Diagnosis.  I rapid cycle as well, but not so much as when I was on anti-depressants.  Anyhow, the show was good.....but I wish it had gotten more into full blown mania, children with bipolar disorder, and its possible link with ADD/ADHD, and varios Anxiety, and Subs. Abuse Disorders.  Guess that will be a whole new show, huh?    Bipolar is an adventure I would never wish upon my worst enemy, because it is a journey of no return for many.
 
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March 8, 2006, 11:00 am PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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Dear Worried.  I really think that Dr. Phil only added to the stigma and stereotype of this disorder.  I also was tempted to call in sick today for shame and embarrasment, and I feel like the show only contributed to people who already like to sensationalize the disorder, and get juicy bits of gossip.  But I got up and went with my held high, and if the conversation comes up about the Dr. Phil show, I think I will mind my business and do my work.  I don't think I can change peoples attitudes.  Too bad Dr. Phil allowed the word "psycho" to be used on his show.  It's a word that is thrown around all too freely, and a word that cuts through me like a knife in my heart.  Stay on your meds, continue treatment, and get as much self help as you can.  I am a spiritual person and my faith has helped me a great deal.  Also support groups like DBSA (Depression and BiPolar Support Alliance) can be very helpful and accepting.  They have on line groups and local groups.  People with BiPolar disorder can be and are contributing members of our society.  Hold your head up high, take care of yourself, and best of luck with the situation with your children.  God Bless you and Keep you.
Thanks so much!!
 
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March 8, 2006, 11:05 am PST

Thank you

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 I only know from my experiences.  I love my husband with my entire being.  I respect and admire him.  I have been bipolar since I was 12.  I am now 39.  I have had many affairs.  Do I try to hurt my husband  on purpose?  Absolutely not!  Do I care if I "catch" something?  Not at the time of the indiscretion.  I care about how that person makes me feel just at that moment. There are no fears of unpleasant consequences, reckless enthusiams takes over.  I have no conscience about it.  I hate that.  I have lied for years.  I continue to lie.  I can't hurt him like this.  He only  knows about 2 of my affairs (one in '95 in which I became pregnant and one in '97 in which I became pregnant).
 I would like to recommend a book or at least take a quote from the book, "Bipolar Disorder-A Guide for Patients and Families"  by Francis Mark Mondimore, M.D.
Here is a quote... "The feelings of exuberance and overconfidence that characterize mania can lead to several pattens of behavior typical of the manic state:  spending sprees, sexual promiscuity, and overuse of alcohol and other intoxicating substances....Increased sexual feelings can lead to affairs or promiscuity, actions that can be life-threatening."
I am sorry for what I have done.  If I could change it I would.  I can't.  I just want to feel normal again. 
lbhat

I have been struggling with this issue that he didn't think of me yet knew enough to turn it off and on depending on his whereabouts. His affair was taking place while on business trips. I was at home. He bought a prepaid cell phone so he could stay in touch with her w/o any suspicions on my part. It seems as though everything was well thought out and planned out. This wasn't just a one or two night affair, although he admits to sleeping with one of the women twice but thought she was skanky. In fact he signed up on Match.com portraying himself to be single and in search of a long term relationship. We had just adopted another child and he was traveling 3-4 nights a week.   

  

I struggle with believeing the, " I didn't think about you" well then how could he be so cagey if there was no thought to me?  

  

I will look at that book. One of the ones that we found was Bipolar for Dummies. It is a very good, not too technical book.  My emotions range from acceptance to want to throw him out. It is nice to hear about someone with the disorder who can help me to make sense out of it...such as it is. 

  

I appreciate you sharing your mindset with me. All of you who replied. I appreciate it.   

 

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March 8, 2006, 11:23 am PST

My only child is bipolar

I have only one child, he is 40 yrs old and bipolar.  His whole life has been a battle with this disease. He lost his marriage, jobs, hardly sees his children. 6 weeks ago he tried to end his life.  He is currently in a facility for bipolar and drugs & alcohol. It is so hard because he only has medicare, which does not pay for very much.  He has heart surgey and 5 back operations.  He is on medication but I can tell from talking to him he isn't leveled out.  He is supposed to be released in April and I have so many concerns. His illness has affected all my relationships with everyone I have ever had. He had been living with his grandmother to be closer to his girls but now she won't let him come back.  He is going to be living with me and my husband, a 3 hour drive from his kids. This is what the facility says he needs to do. I don't undrestand why there aren't more long term program for people like this.  He will come home, be OK for a little while and the cycle will start again, leaving everyone's life in termoil.  The thousands of dollars I have spent trying to help him have all been in vain. I had written to the show several times asking for guidance or help but never heard anything.  I wish we had been one of the lucky people that could have gotten Dr. Phil's help. Hopefully my son will live to see his next birthday.
 
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March 8, 2006, 11:27 am PST

Kids with Bipolar Disorder

I am the mother of an 8 year old son who was diagnosed at the age of 5 with BiPolar.  His current dx is BiPolar I with ADHD.  He sometimes has hears voices and has hallucinations and during those times his dx changes to Bipolar I with psychotic features and ADHD.  I knew by the age of 2/3 there was something wrong.  It is so hard to diagnose and it takes excellent professionals and lots of time.  The first book I was introduced to is, "The Bipolar Child".  I also found a support group through www.bpkids.org where you can be placed with other parents who are experiencing similar situations.  If you suspect your child is Bipolar, seek help immediately.  Do not let the psychiatrist and psychologist run over you and if you don't feel you have a good match, search all providers.  I drive close to 100 miles one way for my son's psychiatrist.  Do not allow your child to be overmedicated.  Some of the symptoms of EOBP (Early Onset Bipolar Disorder) can be similar to ADHD and a lot of children are mis-diagnosed.  One of the best ways to tell the difference is that most kids with Bipolar cannot tollerate ADHD stimulant medications, they only aggrivate symptoms and make matters worse.  My son is currently in RTC (Residential Treatment Center) where he has been for one year now.  They do behavior modifications and he gets daily group therapy, weekly one-on-one therapy and at least monthly visits with a psychiatrist.  His main problems are in the classroom right now and he is being evaluated for learning disabilities (dyslexia).  This could be compounding his symptoms.  He should be home with me this summer and back in regular ed school in the Fall.  My best advice is to find a psychiatrist who is willing to spend a great deal of time with you and your child, educate yourself, become your child's advocate, request testing, make sure your child is not overmedicated, be prepared to face many highs and lows, beware of a full moon, and strive to be the best parent you can be...
 
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March 8, 2006, 11:27 am PST

The truth about bipolar

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 Dr. Phil, 

  

     I believe Bi-Polar results from unresolved pain or feelings one has never expressed. When someone does not deal with their problems and stuff all  their issues down so deep believing they will not suface. The truth is someone's biological make up can change because of stress and trauma. The body and mind go into survival mode and the longer the body stays in survival mode the more the biological system changes in the body. People can be healed from this if the choose to deal with the root of the problem. I'm not saying all people are in this category. I just think as Americans  we areprone to take the quick fix instead of dealing with our problems. 

    Spiritual warfare exists today. The battle is in the mind. I know a woman who was bi- polar and has been healed. Not by medication but by prayer and reading the Bible. The LOrd has the power to do all things. My friend's mother was schizophrenic for all of her life. A couple of years ago she was in bed sick and she could not get up for days. Her radio was on a christian station preaching the gospel. She was healed and enjoying her life today. God is the miracle worker. The Word(Bible) is the bread of life. 

You have obviously not read up on bipolar, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just give you an honest look at the story of a young woman who has bipolar.  I have always felt different and weird, like I did not belong.  I learned to read when I was two years old, and I have always found comfort in my books when the pain of the loneliness becomes unbearable.  At six years old, I penned my first suicide note.  It explained that everyone hates me and everything would be better if I were dead.  I had prayed for Jesus to just come and get me, but he did not.  I folded my little note in a paper airplane and sent it to my mother.  She found it before I could jump off of the railing down our spiral staircase.  I have never felt like I fit in, or that I was "enough" for everyone.  I felt totally alone in the world.  I was so depressed that no one wanted to be my friend.  Every night, I cried myself to sleep.  I was very successful, academic awards, musical awards, and I won a national championship in trampoline when I was 13 years old.  Still I felt ugly and unwanted and unloveable.  Every night I would go to sleep wishing that I would not wake up.  In high school, I fell into the wrong crowd.  They accepted me and allowed me to do many things for them.  I got a boyfriend.  He controlled my every move, and threatened to kill me when I would not do what he wanted.  He meant it.  I told no one for six years.  I really didn't see anything wrong with it.  I found other boys who were not quite as mean, but then again I had learned not to say no.  I found my husband when I was 17, a cute boy who treated me like the dirt beneath his feet and slept with all of my friends.  Before long I was pregnant with my first child and abandoned.  After nine months of begging, he came back to me (even meaner).  I was pregnant again, abandoned again with a baby and nothing.  After he had gone to jail I could offer him a place to live, so he came back. Yet again, pregnant and abandoned.  I would have used protection, but I did not think that I was worth the cost of a condom.  After my third child, we got married.  I was totally isolated from the world, I was afraid to have the front door open, I would not leave the house or change my clothes because it would save on laundry detergent.  I walked on eggshells, and was so nervous all of the time that I would set him off.  I having breakdowns everyday.  Each day I fought not to use that knife to kill myself, not to take any pills that I could find, not to just take my own life.  I had tried so many times that I lost count.  It took everything I had in me to just get through each minute if each day.  There were times when I would not cook because I was so afraid that I would hurt myself!  The only reason that I did not continue attempting suicide was that I couldn't be sure that my children would not find my body.  That's it.  I had a fourth child that I placed in an open adoption.  I was too sick to be his mom.  After one day of hurting so bad that I could not move, and could not get off of the couch, I was so paralyzed with pain and fear that I nearly wet myself and I could not move, I told my husband all.  I said that I could not take another horrible day of this life, not one.  I went to the hospital, and was officially diagnosed with bipolar.  I had suffered for 23 YEARS.  These are years that I can't get back.  It has been two years and I work my butt off in therapy.  I give it 200% and I take my meds and do what I should.  My moods STILL have not stabilized, and I have dealt with awful side effects.  Gained 90 lbs, terrible taste in my mouth, shaking hands, crippling headaches.  I have fought tooth and nail, and I am winning.  I dare you to tell me that I took the "quick fix".  I nearly paid with my life many times.  I sing well, I play eight different wind instruments, I speak several languages, I write well, a good athlete, a good student.  At the same time, hurt, not worth anything, a total failure, and better off dead.  You know what, God is a miracle worker.  This is true because I am here today, and I love to make people smile.  I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me.  I am a cheerful and kind young woman who would like to help other people know that they are special and that there is no one else in the world like them anywhere.  Do you still think that I don't deal with my problems and take the easy way out?  Did you know that 20% of the people with bipolar WILL DIE by their own hand, and that does not take into account the many that drive too fast or get themselves in a bad situation during a manic episode and die.  This is real, so please pray for the healing of those in need and mourn the dead, who died too soon.  There are people who die fighting this illness.  I don't want to be one of them.  I'll let you think about this, and I really hope that this will change your perspective a bit, and I hope it opens your heart to the suffering that goes on right in your back yard. 

Smile! 

~Sunshine~   

 
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March 8, 2006, 11:53 am PST

Hey Jabusch!

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that was so very very helpful, thank you. I've been concerned lately my hypothyroidism wasn't being treated properly lately. Those are excellent sources to find out. thank you.

Hey Jabusch! 

I'm really glad that the info was helpful to you!!!!!! 

  

There is also a "mental health and thyroid" forum on the stopthethyroidmadness website that you might be interested in posting some questions or joining in on the discussions at: 

  

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=3f71ace88d7dc9bb5f2581c386b25673 

  

Look for me there is you check it out. 

take care, 

Cathy  cathy_bdd_mom@yahoo.com  

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/myxedema-craziness/  

 
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March 8, 2006, 12:02 pm PST

meds that might help

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I am a single mother of 3 kids... ages 6, 10, and 17. My 10 year old son is finally in the process of being treated for a "mood disorder", but we are still in the trial and error process of properly diagnosing  "what" exactly he has. The more I study bipolar, the more I believe this is what my son has. He has tried prozac, wellbutrin, zyprexa, and the latest was Depakote. His psychiatrist and counselor have taken him off the Depakote just recently, as this aggravated his symptoms of out of control anger episodes and extreme irritability. I am working with the psychiatrist and his counselor, but am also trying to learn and research as much as I can on my own. This " disorder " truly is tearing my family apart. I am extremely worried and scared for my son, as nothing has seem to help as of yet. I would be eternally gratefull for any suggestions of the best web sites to go to to further research this disease and it's related disorders. Thank you so much for anything anyone may have to offer!!!
I am on a drug called risperodol that is not an antidperessant but a mood stabilizing drug that I find has worked well along with my neuronton (generic name gabapenatin) my son is soonto be diagnosed he is 16 and showing all the signs of bipolar disorder and my psyciatrist is strongly recommending just the riperodol and she also said that ADD/ADHD also can go hand in hand iwth bipolar disorder sorry I don't know of any helpful sites to go too but I am hoping maybe I have helped just a little bit 
 
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March 8, 2006, 12:03 pm PST

more shows on this topic

I couldn't be happier by the topic and information shared in this show. 

  

Please keep giving us more information.  Bipolar illness is so misunderstood and has so many types and combinations. 

  

A sibling of mine entered a hospital for evaluation as this show was being advertised.  He has been ill for a long time and our parents have enabled, excused, blamed his wife and others for his symptoms. 

  

I pray he will submit fully to the evaluation and doctor recommendations for treatment.   

 
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March 8, 2006, 12:29 pm PST

It's nice to know this crazy feeling has a name

I'm a 21 year old mother of a 1 year old daughter. About a month ago they diagnosed me with BP. All my life no one knew what the hell was wrong with me. Except depression. I felt crazy and misunderstood all the time. I became a scapegoat in my family which only sent things even more out of control, then I found drugs. Since the age of 13 I didn't feel. I just recently found my road to recovery. But, then to find out that this out of control feeling wasnt just my personilty...I'm not supposed to feel like I don't even want to be in my own skin...To some all of this up..getting the right med's and the right help is giveing me a normal life for the first time in 21 years.
 
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