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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 7, 2006, 12:38 pm PST

BiPolar

I live with BiPolar disorder.  It has affected me in the financial areas more than any other.  I have been in trouble financially for all of my adult life.  I have stolen, written bad checks, been fired from jobs and am currently unemployed due to my BiPolar disorder.  I am currently in therapy and am trying medications to find one that works.  I praise any and all who have BiPolar who come forward and admit that they have a problem, that seems to be a big issue.  We don't want to admit that anything is wrong.
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:41 pm PST

Ok, what about the rest of us

 

Hi there everyone, 

  

Interesting stories about BP however, what about the rest of us who have Bipolar, are medicated and live perfectly normal lives.  

  

I was diagnosed 8 years ago and I'm 42 years old. I have know that there was something wrong with me since I was 12 years old and had my first suicidal feelings and sunk into a deep depression. I was misdiagnosed with unipolar depression in my 20's and was rediagnosed with BP when I was 34 and pregnant. 

  

There is a huge population of smart, creative and productive people walking around with Bipolar Disorder. I have a 7 year old son and I have never been mean or violent with him. I might add he is showing early signs of having the disorder himself so he's a handful. 

  

Why do we always have to emphasize the negative, for example the guy who went nuts on the plane who was BP and was shot by the air marshalls because he was off his meds and was acting erratically. I'm not saying they shouldn't have done it but that's what hit the headlines. 

  

Why do we not see headlines like "Man with BP gets promoted to CEO of a Company" or Woman starts a shelter for abused teens despite being inflicted with the pontentially fatal disease Bipolar disorder. 

  

Yes, I actually "suffer" with this disease. It hurts inside every day. I fight daily and sometimes hourly to feel good. I take my medication, I don't act irrationally, I am a great Mother and treat the man in my life like a king, and in turn am treated like a queen. 

  

I don't hear voices or have rages. Sometimes I feel like I want to punch a wall, but I have relaxation techniques I use to make that feeling go away. 

  

This show should have ended with, or followed by a show full of productive people with BP,  not to mention the celebrities with it like Jim Carey, Robin Williams and a gaggle of other people. 

  

I feel let down by this show. It means that once  again people who know I have this disorder are going to look at me in a different way. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 12:43 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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okay, just caught dr phil via tivo............is that chic really bi-polar or just plain angry???  i have had fits like hers most of my life and fight myself to this day not to let them out and behave like that..........but i don't believe it's bi-polar........i think my internal tapes are generally negative  (learned from child hood experiences and reinforced by my choices thereafter) and it spirals down from there.  I have children.......so i know how easy you can go from plain normal to plain insane.........but, what we do with the plane insane is up to us.........  am i bi-polar??  or was this woman looking to blame something for her mental attitude illness??
If you live it- you would know...  There is more than what was shown, I am sure...  When the thoughts and the tongue is faster than the common sence... when you have the violent behaviour- you cant immagine the thoughts that go on in our heads...  homocidal thoughts are reality in there. Its sick and twisted, and we hate it- we want it to stop-  the meds can only help so much with rapid cycling. I KNOW.
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:45 pm PST

bp help

Well I don't have it but my mom does and she went from 150lbs and not knowing reality from fiction. Her friend made her move from Victoria, BC Canada to Kamloops and made her look into this TrueHope program... it's all natural.... and it worked... she's got her life back... her memories and her smile. Medication from the doctor made her worse... she got sicker... with liver failiure and well it was bad. It was hard for me to go see her or even call her. But now I have my mom back... This True Hope program does not cure the problem but helps her live and controle it in her everyday life... I recomend you go to www.truehope.com and look into it. It just might give you your life back like it did for my mom.
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:45 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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How is bi- polar diagnosed? It seems that it could be one of those diagnoses used  also as a sort of miscelaneous lable. Are there degress of bi polar? I belive I have a wrong diagnosis. I do not hear voices or fly into rages and hit people. I have been paranoid. Once I thought my hubby was trying to poison me and that I was under surveliance. Both of which I realize are not rational.

Yes there are different degrees as you say of bipolar....i suggest researching....it is usually diagnosed after seeing a doctor who has observed your symptoms to see the mood swings. There is also testing that can be done which can help doctors understand your symptoms and come to a diagnosis. You can still have bipolar and not hear voices or fly into rages. The disease affects each person differently. I have a close friend who has biplor and we act completelty different. 

  

hope this helps 

 
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March 7, 2006, 12:45 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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I work with someone who has been diagnosed as bi-polar. 

She drinks alot of alcohol. 

I've heard this is not advisable as it affects medications effectiveness - anyone out there have any experiences or advise for me?   

I'm a bit scared of how to best work with this person. 

That makes me really sad.

You work with them as you would work with anyone else.
People with affective disorders have feelings too.
I talk to a lot of people who have to question themselves because it is a beautiful day outside, the sun is shining, and they feel good.
They have been driven to the point where they now need to ask themselves if that means they are going into a manic episode.

That's not fair.
If someone sneezes, I don't assume that they are infected with the Black Plague.

And as for alcohol and medications- different medications interact to varying degrees with alcohol.
Caffeine can interact with some of these medications. This person might drink coffee.
Grapefruit juice can too. Cola and tea can interact with some of them.

My advice is: it is their issue to deal with meds and alcohol. Unless you are really good friends, and you know what meds they are on and what interactions there are, there really isn't any thing that you should be saying or doing.

Just be a person?
I think a lot of people aren't aware they know someone with bipolar.
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:50 pm PST

YESSSSSSSSS

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 can cycling last for months at a time?
I have had cycles that lasted as long as a year.  It is very possible in my mind.
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:51 pm PST

you got a problem?!

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Reading the intro, and watching the introduction to the show, I am already frustrated.


"Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here."

Dramatic moment of emotional healing...
being bipolar or having any mental illness doesn't give you an excuse to be a jerk. Being frustrated with the maze of medications and the confusion of treatment options doesn't mean it's ok to give up an throw away your responsibilities. Having problems with emotional moderation does not give you permission to be abusive.

As far as ''letting'' someone move out of their parents' house and living on their own...
everyone deserves to be happy and heathy and functioning to the extent that they are capable.

There are many people who suffer from psychosis who, with the right management plans and coping skills and support network, live on their own.

Some one with a Mental Illness is not a child.
It is someone with a mental illness.
They should be treated as such- with all of the appropriate respect and expectations.
There *are* limits to what people can do, but if you set the bar low, you set everyone back.

People who throw temper tantrums and give up on their treatment contribute to this.
People who act as caretakers really are working against us.

And it pisses me off.


I seriously hope that there wil be some greater insights than in this program than I have previously seen elsewhere.

Though there seem to be so many damn commercials, and it is such a complicated issue, I am not sure how much I can expect.

There will probably be one or two good things but just the intro itself frustrates me.

 ...I guess that is a tangent, but this is a thread about bipolar, no? 



 

[I really don't appreciate how this forum needs to have its messages approved. I feel as though my message won't be seen. Its different if no one agrees 

and who gives you the right to tell me how to act?!! Bi polar is just like having a heart condition- it needs to be fixed with a doctor, and meds... and there are complications until it is fixed.... you dont like it... walk the other way...
 
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March 7, 2006, 12:52 pm PST

I've been where you are

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Hi, I have a 4 1/2 year old son,  that is ADHD, ODD and IED.  They have said that if he was older, that he would be diagnosed with Bi Polar but they can not accuratley make that call with him being so young.  I divorced his father 4 years ago, because of the disorder.  I never dreamed it would come to this with our son.  Dealing with his dad about this is a joke!  I have since remarried and my husband now does not understand it at all nor does he want to.  He more or less thinks I need to fix the child or we divorce.  I have read till I am blue in the face, I have been to all sorts of doctors.  All they do is try different medicines, and lots of paperwork.  He is going to start kindergarten in August and I am really concerned what is going to happen then, I am afraid for my 2 year old little girl.  I am most concerned about my son.  Does anyone have any suggestions about what tests I should have them do, or what therapies to push.  He takes pills at 9am, 12noon, 3pm and 5pm.  We have not had much success with the pills.  Now this medicine he is on control him so much, he doesn't eat or urinate, but does not control the anger, moods, etc.  At this point I can not do anything with him.  I am lost, my marriage is loosing, my other 2 kids are resenting me, I have no time for anyone but this child.  It is controlling my life.  This one child is a full time job.  His dad is a deadbeat and does not help at all emotionally, financially anything.  I have quit my job to stay home, because no one wants to watch him because he is so bad!  I have so many problems that all point back  to him.  It is hard to love him, because he will not let anyone get close enough to him to love him.  My world revolves around him and he can not see it.  He is so smart, sometimes too smart!  Any advise you will give I would greatly appreciate it.  I have written to Dr Phil numerous times and no nothing.  I really want his advise and expertise on this, because I feel like I have hit a brick wall over and over again. 

Desperatley in need of help! 

Tiffany 

Mattoon, Illinois 

My son was chaotic since birth. He never slept. By the time he was 2 years old I was being beaten, bitten, and driven half out of my mind by his behaviour. We were unable to take him anywhere. By the time he was three he was diagnosed with ADHD and put on ritalin. He became depressed and started talking about killing himself. We had to alarm the house because he would get out and run away. We had to call the police many times to help us find him. 

  

By the time he was 4 and a half I was still dealing with the same behaviours and like you completely out of my mind about what was going to happen when he starts school. Psychiatrists had tried the following medications on him in a year: 

  

Depakote 

Seroquel 

Risperdal 

Ritalin 

Clonidine 

Chloryl Hydrate 

Trazadone 

  

He was stil on most of these all at once when he was 4.5. What I did (and I'm not suggesting you do this) was admit him to the Children's hospital for psychiatric evaluation, and to be taken off of all his medication. He stayed there for 3 weeks. It broke my heart but I didn't know what else to do. 

  

It gave myself and my husband a rest, and my son some peace away from the fighting in the home due to dealing with the behaviours. 

  

He's been in therapy ever since but is unmedicated. He still has rages, he still threatens to kill himself, but it's every couple of months not hourly. I know there is the potential there for him to have Bipolar, but it's so hard to medicate these kids. I would rather wait until he's older and he has true symptoms and a better chance at being medicated properly. 

  

Anyway, just know that I understand how hard it is to be stuck in this situation and have no idea what to do. 

  

All the best to you 

  

Elspeth 

Nova Scotia 

 
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March 7, 2006, 12:54 pm PST

Here is what I know

Quote From: emilyce

What is the difference b/w bipolar disorder and depression?  Can you, for instance, experience the physical symptoms of depression, but actually have bipolar disorder? 
Hi! I have bipolar and I have been depressed in the past because of it.  Bipolar persons can experience highs and lows in thier life that are dramatic.  When I was manic I behaved in a very strange way - shopping sprees all the time, frivolous spending and premiscuous activity.  Some people that have bipoar disorder have not experienced the manic side of it.  I hope I helped you.   
 
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