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Topic : 08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 7, 2006, 1:18 pm PST

My mom was bi-polar

CATHY  I APPLAUD YOU!!  It must be humiliating to get in front of the world and be vulnerable. But you did it.  You sought serious help.  My mother was bi-polar and watching you with your boys brought me right back to my childhood.  I can't overstate the importance of continuing your effort, even if you feel hopeless.  If your boys at least see you trying it will go a long way in mending their self esteem.  Let me tell you: you are right to worry about the long term effects on your kids.  I am 36 years old.  My mother has been dead for 11 years and despite about 15 years of counseling I am haunted daily with memories and emotional flashbacks of her abuse.  I have trouble relating to my 6 year old daughter because I am so numb that I am incapable of deep feeling.  And she recently said that she feels lonely when she's with me.  My mother never took her med's.  If she did take them then she'd stop as soon as the meds started helping, announcing that she was cured.   She refused to come to my wedding and at the time of her death I had not seen her in a year and a half.  I'd like to suggest that you get your boys into counseling to help them understand what's going on and to help them build the self-esteem consistent with your deep love for them.  My mother died cursing the day I was born, as she would always say.  If, God forbid, you die before you are under control, let your children see you die trying. 

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:19 pm PST

Living with a spouse with BP

My husband of 15 years was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 with rapid cycles in December. 2 times in the hospital we finally have a good cocktail of meds. I guess I am one of the lucky ones. My husband does get physical. But the mental abuse hurts. I have my daughter in therapy mainly because her & I are the ones that face his wraith when he goes manic. Which also makes my daughter resent her 2 half-brothers. I probably over compensate with her due to this fact.  

Since getting on meds he is doing better toward her. I am hoping that this year he actually attends her b-day. He has refused to go for the last 4. Says he is too tired. Although I would probably think that I was dying if I got as much sleep as him. He has to sleep at least 9.5 hours a night to be able to work. He has had 4 affairs while we have been married. his family thinks that I am the one that has had the affairs. They also believe that I am the reason that he is bipolar. I sometimes wonder why I stay. But even though I have been through hell and back I do love my husband. I also fear that if I was not there he would commit suicide. He has been hospitalized 3 times for threatening to kill hisself.  

  

Thanks for listening, 

Pam 

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:19 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

  I was diagnosed with manic depression 7-8 years ago. My doctor wanted me to see a "shrink" to see if my problem was really bi-polar disease.  I didn't have the time or the money to keep seeing this doctor. I did NOT like the meds because they made me someone else "zombie Like" . 

  Now Im 26 years old and I hate my day to day life. I have highs and lows. And once I notice my high, I just want to cry. This hyper feeling is very intense and the feelings are equally matched during the Lows, depressive or Rage/Anger.  I have not been diagnosed bi polar, but, why does it take so long to diagnose it.? Why do the medicines destroy your authentic self.?  If left untreated, why does it get worse.?   

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:22 pm PST

It's About Time

I am glad that Bi-Polar is finally being brought to the table on national television. I have Bi-Polar and I have had it for years but it was only dianoged three years ago with Bi-Polar and I have to admit I was happy to finally have a lable to put with the symtoms. I have a six in a half year old who has a form of Autism and it scared me to death that I would loose my temper with him over simply things like his toys were out of order or something like that. I have tried millions of times to explain how I feel when I go through my cylces and noone understands it. I have seen many doctors whose idea of treatment was to make me a zombie with medication. And it's taken a long time to finally get the help I knew I needed. I started seeing a new doctor in January of this year and he is a specialist in Bi-Polar and for once someone actually understands me. I give my mother and brother credit because they try their hardest to understand what I am going through. I have other family members who think that I make up the symtoms I go through every day. And it hurts to think they will never understand what I am going through. I have come up with a system for my son and myself. If I yell at him and he knows I am yelling for no reason he tells me Mommy it's time for a time out. I am finally on a path of being okay and living daily with Bi-Polar. The doctor I see now is fantastic. He supports me 100% and he goes on what I'm feeling not what the text books tell him. And i think if more people were willing to talk about there problem then we would be closer to finding a support system that works. I know that anyone with Bi-Polar that needs support can email me an i will do what I can to talk to them.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:22 pm PST

What?

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 Dr. Phil, 

  

     I believe Bi-Polar results from unresolved pain or feelings one has never expressed. When someone does not deal with their problems and stuff all  their issues down so deep believing they will not suface. The truth is someone's biological make up can change because of stress and trauma. The body and mind go into survival mode and the longer the body stays in survival mode the more the biological system changes in the body. People can be healed from this if the choose to deal with the root of the problem. I'm not saying all people are in this category. I just think as Americans  we areprone to take the quick fix instead of dealing with our problems. 

    Spiritual warfare exists today. The battle is in the mind. I know a woman who was bi- polar and has been healed. Not by medication but by prayer and reading the Bible. The LOrd has the power to do all things. My friend's mother was schizophrenic for all of her life. A couple of years ago she was in bed sick and she could not get up for days. Her radio was on a christian station preaching the gospel. She was healed and enjoying her life today. God is the miracle worker. The Word(Bible) is the bread of life. 

I deal with my  'problems'  I take my pills and I keep in check with myself.  My medication was not a 'quick fix'  as it took several months for me to get the proper dosages and combination.  The chemical imbalance in my brain needs medication to be altered.  People do not get healed from Diabetes for example, they take medication and alter thier lifestyle to cope!   

 
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March 7, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

Thanks Dr. Phil

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        Is Bi-Polar hereditary? We can trace it back several generations in the family. 

As far as I know most mental disorders can have some genetic factors.

The messages I've read on this subject are kind but I'm sure someone will come on and dog on the mother with the 2 boys. I really appreciated how kind Dr. Phil was to her when he said he didn't want to be mean to her, etc. I don't know what it's like to have bi-polar disorder but I have been through post partum depression which I believe was bordering on psychosis. I know the feeling of having thoughts that you don't want to have but you can't help them. Thankfully I had a great mother who, while she failed to make me go to a Dr. or get my husband to, took wonderful care of my daughter until I could stop feeling like I wanted to kill her. Really, it's horrible to have thoughts and feelings that you can't stop because you KNOW they're wrong, you KNOW it's not natural but you feel like you cant say anything or your kids will be taken away or you will be put away. And perhaps, like in that mother's case she might need to have her kids live somewhere else while she gets herself together. I think  though that Dr. Phil was kind and along with Dr. Lawless they will be able to help her. I really hope that somehow her boys can pull themselves back just a little and see that she may not be able to help herself unless she gets the proper medication and therapy. I'm sure they'll get the help they need also to heal from the scars that their mother unintentionally gave them. I will look forward to an update on her and her boys.

You really do a great job Dr. Phil. You literally saved my marriage by one comment that you made a few years ago. I really believe you do great work and while some people may think you're not the best...I'm not one of them!

Best regards
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

 I was dxed bp-nos in Nov 01. Never even before medication did I treat my daughter ike that. I find it horrible that Dr.phil chose to show the mother with bp. Showing that mother does nothing to stop the stigma mothers with bipolar face if anything the effects of the show will only work to have people like me treated worse than ever before. I am questioned on a regualr basis "how can you parent if your bipolar" the anwer is simple I do it just like any other  parent.

From what I see on the transcript i read the mother is absuive and is using her illness as an exuse for her behavior which is another thing that makes people with bipolar look bad.

that women needs treatment from a counsellor to address not only her abusive behavior but she has to take responibilty  for her behavior and learn that she can learn to control her out bursts with proper coping methods.

I never recieved any proper therapy other than my dx and my meds becasue I moved cities yet I learned how to reconize my triggers and avoid them and cope with them so that I didn't act like that and if I can she can too.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:24 pm PST

where is the help?

hi. i watched the show, I read  the board, I still dont really see how to get help, Ive been diagnosed, have no transportation most of the time, no support system and take care of my disabled grandmother nad my 10 yr old son. So its like one disabled person taking care of another. I have so many problems that Im pretty sure there is no light at the end of my tunnel. Just like the woman on the show, I dont feel theres any hope. I would have sent a letter to the show but I read something on the site that says you cannot talk to Dr Phil unless you are on the show. Im so bad off, I dont think I could handle being on the show or showing my face, I mean I barely leave this house as it is. I wish there were places on the net that could help, or some kind of support that actually helped instead of message boards where people can just say, Im sorry you feel that way.
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:24 pm PST

The show really worried me

I was diagnosed with bi polar disorder when I was in college.  Before that I had been treated for depression with Zoloft.  After being properly diagnosed I was treated with Topomax and Wellbutrin.  The medication seemed to only make things worse and I stopped taking them and actually feel more in control without them.  When I was on them I was a not a person at all, I was completely numb to everything.  My biggest worry after watching the show is if I am going to get that bad?  I often think about doing outragious things, but at this point I can control it most of the time.  I worry about someday having a family and being a horrible mother.  In all honesty the mother on the show reminded me of my own, so maybe she is bi polar too.  Usually Dr. Phil shows leave me feeling happy that something in these people's lives has been resolved.  This show left me feeling like my situation is so much worse than I thought, that I am going to get worse because medication is NOT an option for me because I become a zombie.  Did anyone else feel entirely dejected after watching?
 
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March 7, 2006, 1:25 pm PST

my ex husband

my was very abusive but i didn't find out he had biloplar till i had the cops get him out he tryed to straggle me one night and he did other things to i am lucky to be alive today
 
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