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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 7, 2006, 6:55 pm PST

Never Give Up

I am a 37 year old mother of 3.  My children are 18, 7, and 3.  I have Bipolar I, with rapid cycling.  I watched the show today and actually came close to tears.  I was moved by the pain felt by the guests on the show.  Especially the children.  I have been wrestling with my disorder for 3 years.  I had tried every medication they could use, but none worked.  I abused my children and my family.  My marriage failed recently.  I would like to say that it was due to my disorder, but that is not the truth.  And the guilt I tend to place on myself would not benefit my illness.  My doctors watched me closely as I grew from the divorce and started my life over as a single parent.  I have now found a med that does work.  Not perfectly, but alot.  I am starting a new life now, trying to make amends to my children for all that has happened.  I can honestly say, I feel healthy.  I think the stress of a bad marriage did not help me.  So now I am moving upward.  I do remember the downward spiral that comes with losing control and losing yourself.  I wanted to send out words of encouragement to all who feel it is hopeless.  It is not.  You can make it with this illness.  And even have a good life.  I have come to learn my own signs, knowing when I need a med adjustment, or even a trip to the hospital.  I have surrounded myself with people who love me and support me for who I am, not what I have.  Remeber that nothing is ever perfect in anyones life.  You will still have ups and downs.  Its how you handle them that counts.  The biggest relief for me was knowing that I AM NOT BIPOLAR, I HAVE BIPOLAR.  I am still a young, beautiful mother struggling to make it in this world like all the others out there.  I just have a harder time dealing with stress.  So I take my time, schedule my life, and roll with it.  I wish you all the best and hope you find the "HAPPY PLACE" that I have found.  Warmest regards to all!!!!
 
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March 7, 2006, 6:56 pm PST

bi polar hurts everyone!

I am an adult child of bipolar parents. I understand all the range of emotion from everyone who saw the show i spent years trying to understand why my mom acted a certain way. I would become so upset every time she used the bipolar disorder as an excuse for her behavior. though people need to understand that even though people with bi polar use the disease as an excuse it doesn't mean that they automatically can control there mood. I feel sorry for Cathy's two sons, I know EXACTLY how they feel and god only knows the damage that has been done to them by this stage in there life because of there mothers destructive behavior.  
 
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March 7, 2006, 6:56 pm PST

Dr. Phil - I am disappointed

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Hi there everyone, 

  

Interesting stories about BP however, what about the rest of us who have Bipolar, are medicated and live perfectly normal lives.  

  

I was diagnosed 8 years ago and I'm 42 years old. I have know that there was something wrong with me since I was 12 years old and had my first suicidal feelings and sunk into a deep depression. I was misdiagnosed with unipolar depression in my 20's and was rediagnosed with BP when I was 34 and pregnant. 

  

There is a huge population of smart, creative and productive people walking around with Bipolar Disorder. I have a 7 year old son and I have never been mean or violent with him. I might add he is showing early signs of having the disorder himself so he's a handful. 

  

Why do we always have to emphasize the negative, for example the guy who went nuts on the plane who was BP and was shot by the air marshalls because he was off his meds and was acting erratically. I'm not saying they shouldn't have done it but that's what hit the headlines. 

  

Why do we not see headlines like "Man with BP gets promoted to CEO of a Company" or Woman starts a shelter for abused teens despite being inflicted with the pontentially fatal disease Bipolar disorder. 

  

Yes, I actually "suffer" with this disease. It hurts inside every day. I fight daily and sometimes hourly to feel good. I take my medication, I don't act irrationally, I am a great Mother and treat the man in my life like a king, and in turn am treated like a queen. 

  

I don't hear voices or have rages. Sometimes I feel like I want to punch a wall, but I have relaxation techniques I use to make that feeling go away. 

  

This show should have ended with, or followed by a show full of productive people with BP,  not to mention the celebrities with it like Jim Carey, Robin Williams and a gaggle of other people. 

  

I feel let down by this show. It means that once  again people who know I have this disorder are going to look at me in a different way. 

I agree.  I have bipolar II.  I have never been hospitalized.  I am extremely compliant with meds.  Have never been suicidal.  Have never abused my children in ANY way.  Have never lost jobs, gotten into debt.  Have never heard voices, been paranoid, stayed up for days or been delusional.  Everything I have read and my doctor explained that bipolar II does NOT have those features yet the people you highlighted all allegedly had bipolar II.  That makes no sense!  I was chronocially, mildly depressed and had GAD for years and was diagnosed bipolar about a year ago - bipolar II.   

  

Yes, I still have ups and downs and it took a while to get the meds. right.  I did have rages before diagnosis - apparently getting on Prozac is what made this come to light - my doctor said it was like putting oil on a fire - but these were ONLY with my husband and ONLY in response to a REAL argument or being upset.  Again, never at my children and obviously I KNEW it wasn't right to throw things, yell, be mean to him, etc  That's why I sought help.   

  

My doctor went to great pains to assure me that bipolar II was not as serious as bipolar I; that I would not be hospitalized or delusional, etc.  When I told her how good I was about taking my meds., she said most bipolar IIs are.  

  

There is already such a stigma attached to mental illness, I wish you had presented more accurate information about bipolar I and II - I believe that even most bipolar I sufferers are not violent, paranoid people. 

  

Just my two cents.  But I thank you for bringing these subjects to light.   

  

On another note, do you plan another Relationship Rescue Retreat.  Praying my husband "gets it" one of these days.... I could write a book.... :) 

 
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March 7, 2006, 6:58 pm PST

I hope for a follow up show on bi-polar personalities that are not as extreme as the guest on today's show

I'm a 47yr old wife(23 yrs)& mother of 2 teenage sons. My symtoms begin in my early 20's, no one knew what was wrong. My family, friends, doctors; no one even spoke of depression, much less manic-depression (bi-polar) in the last 70's. My mood swings went in 6 month intervals... severely depressed for 6 months, elated for 6 months. I spent a lot of time, money & emotion trying different treatments. Finally a treatment seemed to work... I met my husband; it was extremely difficult when I realized we were in love & I had to tell him I suffered from manic-depression. I couldn't believe I found this great guy & this disease would probably scare him away. He stay with me & we have been together ever since. After working for 10 years I gave birth to our 1st son & 3 months later relasped into a severe depression. I loved being a stay at home parent, but the depression made it lonely & extremely difficult. 4 years later we had our 2nd son & the bi-polar continued. After much prayer from family, friends & myself we found an IM & Phychologist; they were able to get me an appt with a fantastic Phycharatrist. With different treatments that consist of proper diet, excercise & a combination of 2meds I have been kicking bi-polar's butt for 10yrs. We have a freshmen in college & a freshmen in high school. Our boys are happy, good, well adjusted young men. My husband & I have been happily married for almost 24 yrs. Bi-polar disorder does not have to be a death sentence... there are happy ever afters. 

It would be nice for America to see cases of bi-polar that are not quite as extreme as the ones on today's show. If I knew absolutely nothing about this disorder & watched the show today, I would be afraid of bi-polar patients...  

 
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March 7, 2006, 7:01 pm PST

I can relate

Quote From: maxxy96

My 30 year old daughter is bi-polar.  I guess I do not understand her behavior.  I have seen her really get angry and mad and I have also seen her act okay.  I think she can control herself if she wanted to badly enough.  Recently, to take care of myself, I have told her that she was not going  to be allowed to scream and yell at me anymore.  She would treat me with respect or not at all.   I am prepared to have no more contact with her at all if she does not  treat me right.................bipolar or not! 

maxxy 96. 

I just had an episode with my son who is 25 and living in another state.We spoke on the phone which led to an argument.He has not been diagnosed with bipolar but I'm pretty sure he has it .I also believe I may be suffering from it too.I too cannot take it when he blows up out of control for my own wellbeing.Our relationship has been very difficult.At times he is just so verbally abusive and the last time I spoke to him I told him to have anice life and that I didn't want to talk to him anymore.I am getting ready to call him and ask him to really try to not to speak to me that way and I in turn will respect him also.He knows that there is a problem within himself and has talked about getting help.I know that Personally with me trying to control my moods is really  hard.It is like having a t really bad case of pms at times.It feels like your saying things you know are mean and hurtful at the time and you just can't stop yourself.You can actually feel your blood boiling.So don't be too hard on her,maybe we just need to tell them we will talk to them when they're in better spirits and let it go till they calm down.I never got to watch the show today,I was really looking forward to getting some insight on the subject,but reading the message board has really been an eye opener.My prayers are with you.
 
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March 7, 2006, 7:01 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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I don't know if I was necessarily disappointed with the show but I do agree that it did not do a great deal of good to portray bipolars as people who are capable of physically hurting their children and I don't think the fact that she wasn't taking any medication or not receiving any therepy was emphasized enough as to why she may be acting this way.  Yes, if I wasn't taking my medication, as prescribed, my behavior would look pretty out-of-control too.  I was diagnosed bi-polar II a couple of years back.  I went through the normal feelings of extreme anger, confusion, the why me syndrome, etc...until I accepted it and made a decision to fight back.  The good news about the diagnosis was I now knew what I had.  These off-the-wall behaviors had a name.  It's very hard to fix something when you don't even know what you have. It was not enough to "just be on medication and see the doc once a month."  I began searching for and reading every book I could--I still do that. I decided to work on changing my lifestyle, my nutrition (I was a junk-food junkie), started making time for exercise everyday.  I decided to start a support group for people with mental illnesses and substance abuse as co-occuring disorders.  I am also a recovering alcoholic who could not get any great amount of sobriety for 13 years till I started taking medication.  I am proud to say that on the 19th of this month I will be 9 months sober, before that I had 1 1/2 years till I had a manic episode and did what every good alcoholic does...drink...it kills the pain.  I hold myself accountable today.  I have an AA sponsor who is also bi-polar and is constantly reminding me that being bi-polar is not a liscence to hurt others and when I do a immediate apology is required.  I have a wonderful relationship with my boyfriend who loves me just the way I am.  I include him in my recovery.  He is great friends with my doctor, my therapist and my drug and alcohol counselor.  I don't hide anything from him.  As a matter of fact he has my permission to call any one of these people when he sees my behavior "running off into the ditch."  I have also become a consumer advocate for the mental health facility where I receive treatment.  I have become a voice for other consumers in my community who may be unable to speak up for fear of losing their social security, fear that they won't be heard, and most of all STIGMA!!  I no longer care what others think and I wear my T-shirt that says "Heavily Medicated for your Safety" proudly.  I've learned that you have to give it away in order to keep it.  Yeah, I still have my bad days and they are a bitch but I don't allow that to get in the way of my daily routine and most of all I have God in my life and I have faith that as long as I keep my relationship strong with Him,  I CAN DO ANYTHING I PUT MY MIND ON.  I AM NOT MY DISEASE, I HAVE THE DISEASE...BIG DIFFERENCE!  I'TS ALOT OF WORK BUT THE PAY-OFF IS AWESOME!!  I don't like to stay in the problem, I like to work on the solution and as you can tell I love to talk recovery and I am a grateful sober alcoholic who has Bipolar  Disorder and there are a hell of alot of people who are worse off than I am.  Now I'm all psyched up!! 

  

Stable for five years now on a good med. combination.  I know the importance of seeing my Dr. regularly and taking my meds. daily.  Keeping  the stress triggers down is key.  I am blessed in that I have BP II and not BP I, which can be sever and devasting for a lot of people.  I believe the older medication Lithum or Lithobid is the best for treating mania, but that is just my experience after trying about a dozen anti-mania medications.   My main comment is that "I have Bipolar disorder, it doesn't  have me".  
 
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March 7, 2006, 7:03 pm PST

Thank you for the website

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There is a new magazine available to assist people with Bipolar Disorder. 

It is called BP Canada.  It helps to educate those with or without Bipolar Disorder. 

You can find the website at: www.bphope.ca  There are quite a few publications on mental health in general,  but not many focusing only on Bipolar Disorder. 

I hope this helps everyone as it is a great resource. 

I appreciate this post and I will be subscribing.  Namaste'
 
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March 7, 2006, 7:03 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

Quote From: noalibis13

I'm thankful that my bestfriend called and told me to watch the show. I'm also bipolar. I cried, the first part because I knew how not only the mother felt but also how the children felt.  I feel the same way.  I just wished my psy. would listen to me more.  Any one have any ideas how to get it through to your psy.  how you feel when it comes to wanting to hurt your children?  My son is 17.  I don't see my psy. for another month, but they know my every thought, but I just don't know how to make them really, really listen. 

  

Thanks you all, 

  

noalibis13 

One comment.....CHANGE DOCTORS... PLEASE!  Do this for yourself.  You have a right to good mental health.
 
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March 7, 2006, 7:05 pm PST

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I can see where you may make this type of observation and can agree with you about the children.  Just the same, I do understand  how a person reacts when they are cycling.  I have seen how both an adult and a child cycle.  Pretty scary!   If she is a rapid cycler, she can very well go from one type of mood to another in a matter of minutes.  My son has cycled from manic to depressive states 7 times in one hour.  Because it happens so quickly, it can appear as other disorders. 
I cannot believe that you would pass judgement on someone when clearly you have no idea what the illness is all about.  It seems to me that you might have some issues of your own that you need to address.  It's these type of misunderstandings from people like you that put a stigma on mental illnesses and alienate those that may sometime need our help, compassion and understanding. 
 
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March 7, 2006, 7:06 pm PST

03/07 Extreme Highs and Lows

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  I was really good at removing myself to keep my children's lives normal when they were little and dependent on me.  I think her problem now is that the boys are halfway taking care of her and that's harder to recognise and seperate from.
Cathy is irresponsible in giving up on her disorder.  She stated that she tried all the medications out there, but you have to keep going and find the right combination.  I doubt that she has tried them all.  Most people who have the disorder do well on Lithium although it has side affects and you have to watch the blood levels every 3 months or so, but it seems to work the best for both euphoric and dysphoric mania.  Cathy seems to have the dysphoric type of mania. 
 
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