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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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August 1, 2006, 2:42 pm PDT

married to bipolar?

My husband of nine years has been diagnosed with depression for years.  He has been through about every antidepressant known....But hated the side effects and always quit or changed. Last May we had to remove all hunting guns from the house because he had gone off all meds and was suicidal. He has gone from filing for divorce one month to wanting to renew our vows the next. He was diagnosed in May with BiPolar II and put on a mood stabilizer and Prozac.  For the last month he has quickly decreased both meds to just everyother day minimal doses.  He will come home and want mad passionate sex then walk in the next day and be angry and want a divorce.  I never know what to expect when he walks through the door.   He isn't as extreme as those on the show....but last Nov. took $10,000 he had hidden in our basement and put in a stock that he though was going to soar. He honestly thought he was going to be a billionare. (he also pulled $13,000 out of our college fund and cashed in two insurance policies and put in the same stock).  Yes we lost around $9,000.  No, it wasn't money we could afford to lose.

 

I don't know if these are truly symptoms of bipolar or not.   If someone thinks they are please comment. 

 

Grabbing at Straws.

 

 
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August 1, 2006, 2:43 pm PDT

08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

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There is NOTHING worse than being BiPolar, except BiPolarII.  I have been diagnosed as BiPolar II, and it is a HORRIBLE disease to try and live with!  My youngest daughter was diagnosed at 13,  before I was-and I went thru a living HELL with her.  In and out of hospitals; every other day taking her to counselors; twice a week taking her to phyciatrists; holding her and loving her with all I had when the voice of "Weird Al Yankovich" took over her head!  The first time she was hospitalized, they diagnosed her as phscofrenic-that scared me to death.  Then the second time she was hospitalized, they said no-she was just suffering from depression; then finally, we got a wonderful Dr. that came from the Queens in NYC and believe me; she had seen everything!!!!  She said absoulutly NOT; both of the diagnosis given to my daughter was wrong-and the 12 pills they had her on a day had to stop.  By this time, she had stopped going to school because all the kids in school had found out she had been hospitalized in the Mental Behavior Hospital, and they were all making fun of her, and calling her names-even her so called 'friends'!  This Dr. put her back in the hospital one day, after we (my daughter & I) were shopping and she snapped, and lodged herself between 2 pop machines outside the store, and was yelling at people to help her that I beat her!!  After about 3 minutes, she snapped out of it, and wondered what she was doing  inbetween the pop machines and came out and got in the car.  She was totally exhausted, and I had contacted the Dr and they said bring her straight to the hospital for a direct admit.  On this admit, she was combative.  But, this Dr diagnosed her as BiPolar II; with extreme depression-ADD; and extreme anxiety disorder.  At that point, her concentration time was 6 minutes.  This school district in North East, approximately 10miles east of Erie PA, that she was attending told me they could not do anything for her; they were not equipped to handle a child with her problems; so we had to move.  When we moved to Jamestown NY, she still could not go back to school, as she was deathly afraid of all the new kids.  When we went into the school to register her, you could literally see her chest shaking.  I home schooled her until she turned 16; then she gave it up-as much as I begged her; her faith in herself was completely shot.  And the worst part was; she was an A-B student!!!
After that, about a year later-I had a nervous breakdown.  My family Dr immediately sent me into counseling and that was 6 years ago.  I am still in counseling; and seeing a Dr once a month.  I am also BiPolar II; with extreme anxiety disorder; and extreme agoraphobia.  It is living hell!  I can be sitting there fine; and all of a sudden, something washes over me, and I just want to throw something-wreck anything I can get my hands on!!  And I can't understand why this happens; I am on 5 different physic meds-but it doesn't completely take care of everything.  All I know is it would be much worse if I was not on my meds!!  There are chips out of my tiles in my kitchen where I have thrown cups; chips off my wall where I have thrown things; holes in my doors where my daughter and I have punched them.  And Lord help us; it's nothing that at the time, we can control!!  The feelings go away after a few minutes-but during those few minutes a living hell!!  There are times I just feel like giving up; stop taking all these meds I'm on; and just let go; I CAN NOT STAND LIVING WITH THIS MENTAL ILLNESS ANYMORE!!!!
I would like your help if at all possible.  I'm sure there are MANY people out there much worse off than me, and God knows my heart goes out to them, but I honestly can see how some people just end it all!!!!  It gets to that point in my feelings alot lately.
Thank you for your time; and please; have a nice day.  And again, thank you for listening to me!

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i know how ur daughter feels about the whole school thing i am 18 years old and i was in the same boat as her about the teasing and looks.It's totally horrible i was put in the hospital for 2 weeks and my life has never been the same since..it's a horrible disease to live with and you just kinda have to take it like ok this is what god gave me now how can i make this work and try and get through this the best i can..I am a suiside survivor and you know life is more than you know i hurt so many people when i tryed to slit my wrist and i hit the bottom of the black hole at that time and never wanna be there again
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:47 pm PDT

A little help....

Todays show really opened my eyes. I mean since I was 12 I have been battling depression. Finally about 3yrs ago I found this Dr. that was able to give me a diagnosses on what exactly I had He said that I am borderline bi-polar and will forever battle my depression.. I have since then run out of funds,am separated from my husband, lost my job and am on the verge of being homless.I am spiraling down the same path as before.. I am here to ask for anyone out there for information on where I can go to get my mental health in order. I am making this bold move for my 6 year old son and need to be healthy for him. So if anybody has any information on where I can call or where I can go please email me.
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:48 pm PDT

I don't think so and i am bi-polar

Quote From: mistysmom

My daughter was told she was Bi-Polar about a year and a half ago. She is 27 years old and has a seven year old son. She has been in numerous relationships. but they never last. After they move in together and arguments begin to intensive, she says horrible things and does a lot of damage to property. Sooner or later the men decide to leave.

 

She does not hear voices, but she seems to have gotten worse since they told her she was bi-polar. She says the meanest things she think of when she is mad. Even as her mother it is so difficult to deal with her. I have blamed myself but how much abuse will ever be enough. Most of the time I feel like it is her goal in life to make my life a living hell. But I still wonder if it is just her being mean or really a disorder. The doctors had her fill out a questionaire and then said she was bi-polar is it really that easy to diagnosis?

 

mistymom

 

 

I wish the best for your daughter.  I was diagnosed with this awful desease at 12 I am now 29. It took them 6 years to get to it. I was told I had depression, and a lot of other things I can't think of right now. I do hear voices bad, telling me to kill myself and my cats. Good, a family that I have created who say I am fine. Sometimes I think I can talk to different people when i'm alone, including celeberties. I once told someone I knew where BIin-laden is. I lost that friend that night. It's hard for me to work because I go off on people, I never hit them just yell and swear. I lost several jobs over this. I do take my meds but it doesn't seem to help. I hurt myself and sometimes ( a lot) and try to commit suicide. I do hope you watch your daughter for any signs of problems.
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:48 pm PDT

Affected by Bi-polar

My mother is Bi-polar and she has been I guess for along time. Also to make it worse she is addicted to prescription drugs, in the past there have even been illegal drugs. I wonder if her mind is completely gone. It is like she just checks out sometimes and goes to some other world. She is paranoid and rude and thinks everyone is out to get her. My father is still married to her but lives in another town during the week to be able to cope with it. My sister has completely disowned her and this has made my relationship with both of them impossible. I have not spoken to my mother in over a month since she hung up the phone with me over her last episode. I don't know how to handle her and balance to keep it from affecting my children and my husband the way it has affected me my whole life. Sadly this last month has been the most peaceful I have had in my entire life. It makes me feel guilty to feel relief not to have to deal with it but in the same way I feel like it is taking a part of me away from my children and my husband so it is very difficult for me to deal with my feelings. I have even had nightmares about the things she would be capable of doing to me and my children. I don't allow her to watch my children because of her moods and heavy medication that she takes on a regular daily basis, so I fear that if she is so desperate to prove she is normal that she would try to take the without my permission from school or something and then lose control and they would be hurt somehow. I have to tell their school that she can not be allowed to pick them up and explain why, it is so embarrassing. My in-laws have seen her at her worst at various events and it almost caused me my marriage because they judged me for her behavior at first. My husband and I have been through hell to convince them. I have to have separate holidays with them and my sister to avoid problems. I feel like I am being pulled from all sides and I don't know why I can't just throw my hands up, even though I feel very close to that point after this last episode with my mother. I have tried to talk to her about how her behavior affects everyone else but she says it's not her it's all of us that we are the one's who are hurting her and not the way it really is. I guess it just feels good to get this off my chest, I wish I knew how to better this situation but with her mind so far gone and her denial, I just don't see things getting better.

 

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August 1, 2006, 2:49 pm PDT

Bipolar Disorder ?

I am a 60 year old single/divorced woman who has suffered with this disorder for over 50 years. I have just come to understand what has made my life a nightmare all these years....I have only been "sort of" diagnosed by a family doctor....He prescribed me anti-depressants last year, and they help so much, though I still live with the hope that I will not have to live much longer as that is the only way I will be sure to escape the "nightmare" as I have come to think of my life. I know I can not act on ending my own life and this causes me even more depression because I don't have the nerve to end it all. The only way I feel I can get thru the rest of my days is to completely isolate myself from everyone. I am almost completely homebound for the last several months, leaving only to go to the grocery store once a month. I do have an appointment with a Behavior Clinic next week which is suppose to be one that I can pay according to my income.....This will remain to be seen! I do hope that I will be able to continue to purchace my anti-depressants as the pain without them is unbearable.....
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:51 pm PDT

What reason would she have...

Quote From: mistysmom

My daughter was told she was Bi-Polar about a year and a half ago. She is 27 years old and has a seven year old son. She has been in numerous relationships. but they never last. After they move in together and arguments begin to intensive, she says horrible things and does a lot of damage to property. Sooner or later the men decide to leave.

 

She does not hear voices, but she seems to have gotten worse since they told her she was bi-polar. She says the meanest things she think of when she is mad. Even as her mother it is so difficult to deal with her. I have blamed myself but how much abuse will ever be enough. Most of the time I feel like it is her goal in life to make my life a living hell. But I still wonder if it is just her being mean or really a disorder. The doctors had her fill out a questionaire and then said she was bi-polar is it really that easy to diagnosis?

 

mistymom

 

 

What reason would your daughter have for being mean?  Is she on drugs?  Did you raise her to value her bad behavior.  I doubt it.  She probably is bipolar if the doctor says she is.  It's more likely to get a wrong diagnosis of NOT being bipolar.
 
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August 1, 2006, 2:55 pm PDT

Call your crisis center

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Todays show really opened my eyes. I mean since I was 12 I have been battling depression. Finally about 3yrs ago I found this Dr. that was able to give me a diagnosses on what exactly I had He said that I am borderline bi-polar and will forever battle my depression.. I have since then run out of funds,am separated from my husband, lost my job and am on the verge of being homless.I am spiraling down the same path as before.. I am here to ask for anyone out there for information on where I can go to get my mental health in order. I am making this bold move for my 6 year old son and need to be healthy for him. So if anybody has any information on where I can call or where I can go please email me.
Call or go to your local crisis center (look in the yellow pages.)  They should know the resources for your area.
 

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August 1, 2006, 2:55 pm PDT

I was also diagnosed at Bipolar II... There is hope

5 years ago I was diagnosed with Bipolar II.  The Dr. put me on Paxil for the anxiety and depression and a tranquilizer for the anger.  I was in the darkest part of my mind.  The only thing that kept me from suicide was my 3 children.  After going on the RX's I was feeling much better and decided to drop a few pounds.  I went on the Akins diet with no weight loss sucess, HOWEVER, the diet cut out all carbs....  Wheat, Barley etc.   All of a sudden my meds were too strong.  I found I didnt need them anymore.  I experimented with the exclusion of the gluten in my diet and found that ANY time I had any form of gluten, I would change from Dr. Jeckel to MR. HIDE!  ALL of my Bipolar symptoms would come back in force any time I ate any bread, pasta, malt, etc.  As a result of this finding, I went off all RX's and watched my diet very closely.  Stripped my kitchen of all gluten sources.  This has been a blessing!!!  I no longer battle my self for control.  I no longer snap at the kids for no good reason.  I have learned to love myself again!.. That in itself is a miracle.  Alergies are REAL.  Their symptoms don't always manifest themselves as hayfever.  I wish all of your guests would have food alergy test BEFORE they went on RX's. 

 

Sincerely,  Debbie Loveless

 
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August 1, 2006, 2:57 pm PDT

08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

 

My mother has suffered from Bi-polar disorder for almost the 37 years I've been alive.

 

Growing up I have experienced pretty well every episode known, inclusive of my mother attempting suicide when I was six years old, and again at eight.

 

I feel for Cathy's boys since I have been through much, as they have. It is not easy living with a parent that is Bi-polar, considering you love them but can't understand why they act, say, and do the things they do.

 

It wasn't until my father passed away that my mother was finally diagnosed with a disorder. I remember shortly before my father's death asking him why he ignored my mom at times, to which he told me you'll come to understand....I surely understood.

 

During my fathers illness, I was incensed that my mother would rather be away from the house than with him, or that if I cried she'd show no emotion. I eventually learned that Bi-polar disorder causes various mood swings, inclusive of being evasive of serious issues such as this, or would at times show emotion, or in this case coldness. Please don't get me wrong, my father loved my mom and vise versa, but in the days starting in the 60's this diagnosis was barely understood.

 

At 27, the time around my fathers death, and my mom's diagnosis with Bi-polar, I was diagnosed with anxiety. I am now 37, and currently am on a drug for the same, although not for Bi-polar. One of my greatest fears is that I could end up with the same health condition as my mom.

 

My mom has gone through various medications, taking her from extreme highs to extreme lows, until they found prescriptions that seem to keep her condition under control. Unlike Cathy, my mom is willing to try different medications and stay on them or notify her physician if there not working, so something else can be done.

 

I truly believe that Bi-polar is mis/diagnosed and treated differently by numerous physicians with different drugs. In 2001, my mom was on 19 different prescriptions, and now down to 10, inclusive of medication for heart disease, high blood pressure, and Bi-polar. It took 27 years alone for someone to understand that my mom wasn't a hypochondriac or going through menopause.

 

I feel for all the children, and family's that have loved ones suffering from this disorder, since it is understandably hard to understand. With the right physician, and medication, this disease can be controlled to its best extent.

 

 

 
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