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Topic : 08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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August 1, 2006, 10:01 pm PDT

Feeling alone and like this is my fault

I have been suffering with a complete void inside and emptiness that seems as though no words could ever fully explain the torment I feel.  I partly am doing better because I know have reconnected to God.  That in itself has helped me tremendously, however I still struggle with depression, sadness and an emptiness that I can't quite pinpoint.  I have been through many counselors and thousands of drugs.  I have been discouraged time and time again.  I suppose that's why I just want to give hope to others that I have found through God and God alone because pills are not the real solution.  Don't get me wrong I do think they can have a dramatic effect at helping people but I wouldn't rely solely on them.  I recently was told I am bi-polar.  I thought this was crazy since I'm not manic happy one minute and manic depressed the other.  Actually I am usually the same down mood or rather "flat affect" as I have also been told I portray.  I don't know maybe I'm just looking for some advise and or help myself too.
 
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August 1, 2006, 10:07 pm PDT

Bi-Polar I

I'm a 45 year old Bi-Polar I (manic depressive) diagnosed 15 years ago. Currently on Lithium. But I have never had any episodes like described on the show.  Don't know if its because I am closely monitored or is it because I'm only a Type I.  I do have ups and downs but they are not extreme.  I have been hospitalzed for extreme depression before.

 

I am a sole believer in counseling and family support and of course taking your medicine every day.

 
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August 1, 2006, 10:10 pm PDT

Feeling alone

I was recently told that my new Psychologist I am seeing thinks I have Bi-polar.  However, my moods are usually the same basically I am depressed or down w/a flat affect all the time.  I don't know what to think.  I am always worrying that I will never change and I'll be this way for the rest of my life.  I can't go on this way because who wants to go through unhappy all the time? I'm stressed, paranoid, anxious, worried, never feeling good enough or adequate, insecure, you name it I feel it.  I need a major intervention myself, but it doesn't seem like what I do myself is enough or that I'm just not strong enough.  I am doing better because of God coming back into my life.  He's my strength, but I am still very very weak.  I don't know how to find the confidence and assurance I desperately need in myself.
 
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August 1, 2006, 10:42 pm PDT

THOUGHT THIS WAS NORMAL FOR BEING SUCH A HATEFUL PERSON..GOD'S WAY OF PAYBACK

I HAVE LIVED WITH THIS  NIGHTMARE FOR @ 25 YEARS.  THOUGHT THIS WAS PAYBACK FOR  MY FATHER MOLESTING ME FROM 4 YRS OLD TO @ 6 YRS OLD. I STILL BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE. I LOOK BACK NOW AND KNOW THAT OTHER PEOPLE KNEW, BUT I HAD TO KEEP THE SECRET BECAUSE IT WOULD UPSET THE FAMILY.  I HOPE HE IS ROTTING IN HELL ALONG WITH MY MOTHER. BUT IT IS A SECRET I HAVE TO KEEP BECAUSE THE SIBLINGS THAT KNOW CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS, SO I MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO BRING THIS ON. THEY HAVE CUT ME OUT BECAUSE I AM SUCH A BAD MEMORY.  THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF A BAD MEMORY.  AT THIS POINT, I HATE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE.  YOU CANNOT BE A SLUT AT THE AGE OF 4 YRS OLD, BUT THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE.  I HAVE CUT UP ALL PICTURES OF ME AS A CHILD, JUST CAN'T LOOK AT THEM.

I HAVE LEARNED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DRINKS  BEFORE MY HUSBAND COMES HOME IN AFTERNOON, IT MAKES ME SMILE FOR A WHILE, WHILE DYING INSIDE.  I AM AFRAID THE DRINKING WON'T KEEP AFTER AWHILE AT SOME POINT..WHAT IS NEXT????

LOVE BOTH OF YOU VERY MUCH..LONG AGO I HAD SO MUCH PRIDE IN MYSELF...WHERE DID IT GO, AND WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME???

LINDA

 
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August 1, 2006, 10:49 pm PDT

are we talking the same bi-polar?

after living with bi-polar II (also known as soft bi-polar) for 30+ years, I was shocked to hear these guests symptoms.  It is my understanding that only BP I has full mania and POSSIBLE psycotic episodes. BP II has more of a depressive nature, there isn't much energy for acting out, and when Hypo-Mania is present, it may anoy others with the level of excitement or frienzy, or cause financial problems with great spending, but is not likely to display mean or violent behavior towards others. I am not ashamed of my illness, but fear that people will think I am dangerous because of shows like this; it is hard enough to function and take my meds, without the added burden of feeling I need to keep my illness secret.
 
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August 1, 2006, 10:50 pm PDT

Is Bi-Polar hereditary?

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        Is Bi-Polar hereditary? We can trace it back several generations in the family. 

It is and is not.  My fathers mother was bi-polar and so is my father. And I am his 3rd child and I am. But neither my 2 older sisters or my younger brother been diagnosed. None of their kids are.

None of my 3 kids are.  So there is not really a pattern

 
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August 1, 2006, 11:17 pm PDT

how did he choose these two?

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I joined this site simply to respond to today's show.  I rarely miss a Dr. Phil episode, and admire his approach very much.  But today, he completely misrepresented the illness to the public, adding to the stigma we with bipolar disorder already bear.

 

Both of the guests he labeled as "bipolar" come from the far, far, end of the spectrum, and likely have other disorders to boot.  He completely misrepresented people with the illness as terrifying and dangerous, or at least laughable.

 

It is true I have hade ghastly lows that left me unable to get out of bed and nearly lost me my career, and highs that scared my loved ones as I spent money like a drunken sailor, raged, was violent, and completely grandiose.  All these peaks and valleys have been smoothed with proper medication and good therapy.  I am more functional in the world than a lot of "normal" people, and my occasional hypomanic state has produced some very good (published!) writing and exciting (sold!) art.  I look on the condition as a mixed blessing.  Through experience, abstaining from intoxicants, and REGULARLY TAKING THE OPTIMAL MEDICATION FOR ME, I can now see bad news coming and take appropriate action, whether a minor medication adjustment or a visit with my therapist, or simply treating myself to a period of less stress. 

 

This side of bipolar was completely ignored.  I know that extremes make for better television ratings, but they also create a disservice to the many, many, people who have bipolar, even severly, and function in their daily lives.

 

I hope he has a follow-up episode to rectify the terrible impression left with people unfamiliar with the condition.

I agree with you that these guests did not fit the typical description of Bi-polar II. I've lived with it for 30+ yrs and most people would be surprised if I told them I take meds and see a "shrink"- I even graduated Suma-cum-laude during a most difficult time of medication trials (mostly errors) Lithium does not work for most BPII's, after 15+meds I now take Lamictal with fairly good results. (My family sometimes misses the hypo-mania, as I was quite creative, but it is a delicate balance that we seek for some sort of normalcy --is it not?)  best wishes to you for continued success!
 
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August 2, 2006, 12:00 am PDT

Finally Diagnosed this month as Bipolar

Having just been recently diagnosed this show was a blessing for my family sake which didn't understand anything that was happening with me over the past 32 yrs.  I was dx as bipolar, PTSD, Panic Attacks and Borderline Persoanlity Disorder.  LUCKY ME!!!  I now know what has been making me crazy all these years and why the meds I was on didn't work. I no longer work due partly to my illness and an injury to my back so I can't afford meds unless I go to a rural clinic to get help which I have now started.  I was too embarrassed last year and off my meds and went nuts so to speak and attempted suicide for the 12th time.  I do hear demon voices and occasionally see things now which aren't real.  If I could afford a brain scan I would diffeniately get one just for the proof for my family's sake to show them whats wrong and that its not my fault.  My husband isn't that supportive anymore and refused to have children with me so my one thing in life I always wanted I didn't get to have which saddens me greatly.  I am an only child and long for a child of my own, but alas it will not happen now that I am 44 yrs old and so sick.  Hope everyone else with this isn't afraid to follow their dreams cause believe me you will wish you were dead. 
 
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August 2, 2006, 1:32 am PDT

Is Bi-Polar a new name?

 Maybe I just don't  read enough, but is Bi-polar a newly diagnosed illness? The symptoms seem to me like what was always referred to as  schitzophrenia, i.e. hearing voices and behaving manically and being anti-social. I'm in my 50s and people whose behaviour was unusual were usually dismissed by the (ignorant) public as being highly strung or manic depressive. Looking back on people I have known in my life who were to say the least eccentric I think to-day we would say they were bi-polar and expect them to be treated and their symptons improve. Has bi-polar(ism) only recently happened or was it called something different ?
Hope this post doesn't come over as insulting I'm just a bit confused and hope someone can give me a simple answer or point me toward an easy read web site on the subject's history.
 
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August 2, 2006, 2:09 am PDT

Extreme highs and lows

"THE SAILBOAT OF RECOVERY"

For the person who suffers from a psychiatric illness, the journy through life is hard.  For one who also struggles with addiction, it is harder still.  Envision the process of recovery as a boat with four sails.  Each sail represents a different aspect of the process: biological, psychological, environmental, and spiritual.  All of these sails must be hoisted and trimmed so that the boat can move swiftly over the rough seas ahead.

 

The biological sail respresents the need to restore the body to its normal level of functioning.  Years of substance abuse turn the body into a toxic waste dump.  Yet, given a chance, the body has remarkably sophisticated ways of removing these poisons.  Abstinence, proper diet, and exercise can restore physical health in relatively short order.

 

The psychological sail represents treatment aimed at straightening out tangled thinking and correcting harmful behavior.  There are many ways to achieve this; therapy with an individual counselor and group are but two examples.

 

The environmental sail means treating the dual disorders in a broader context.  Whatever the circumstances, treatment must take into account the fact that we all live with, and among other people.  Making adjustments to improve our environmental means improving our chances at getting better.

 

Finally, the spiritual sail offers the opportunity for healing that is rooted deep within the heart and soul.  It is the sail that keeps the boat of recovery moving forward even if all the other sail are tattered and torn.  - "Hope and Healing: A Comprehensive Approach to Dual Disorders"  A.Scott Winter, M.D.

 

 I believe that to do an episode such as the one that I viewed on August 1 does not do justice to the to the complexity of disorder as demontrated by the brief synopsis above.  A large percentage of the suffering from Bipolar develope substance abuse problems from years of self-medicating.  The DSM-IV recognizes this as Co-Occuring Disorders.  Spending a full week of episodes would only touch the surface of the complexities of Bipolar.

 

I am not going into my story, but I will say that it has been 36 years of pure hell (As some of my memories return, I realized that I had issues at age 5).  I have been medicated for almost  years, I meet with my substance abuse counselor once a week, I meet with my psychopharmacutical specialist once a month, I attend a Dual Disorder support group twice a week,  a marriage counselor every so often, and read as much as I can about my disorders.  I find such an episode almost insulting to the point it only excacerbted my dispair. 

 

Even with my understanding of what I am faced with, and all the time I put into managing my disorder, I find myself  "Walking the Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Greenday-American Idiot).  I am a self-employed Certified Public Accountant who is homeless, bathing out of the sink at my office, sleeping on the concrete floor in a sleeping bag.  I have done all I can to disconnect from my family to reduce the risk of creating any further reckage.  I face the danger of suicide on an hour to hour basis.  I am spiritually, finacially, and emotionally bankrupt.  My story could not be solved in a single episode.  The horrible thing about it is that I am high funtioning compared to most.  While I feel as though "I walk alone, my shadow is the only one that walks with me" (Greenday), many others feel the same way.  The August 1 episode discounted the deep despair of all of us torchered souls.

 

I have choosen to let the disease destroy me, by the simple fact that I cannot continue the fight.  I began titrating my meds at the end of July and  I have chosen not self medicate anymore.  Furthermore, I have withdrawn from my support programs.  At this point it is in God's hands, as he blessed me with this afflition.  I know that as a result of my choices that my future is pretty grim, but compared to the past, I look foreward to what lies ahead of me.

 

 

 
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