Topic : 08/01 Extreme Highs and Lows

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(Original Air Date: 03/07/06) Dr. Phil explores the ups and downs of bipolar disorder. This illness takes its victims on an emotional rollercoaster ride -- from elation to extreme irritability, intense rage, or devastating depression. First, Cathy was diagnosed with Bipolar II, 10 years ago and claims she goes from zero to psycho in 15 seconds. Dr. Phil takes a look at the toll her disorder takes on her two boys, and brings the family together for a dramatic moment of emotional healing. Then, during various manic episodes, Fred has stolen a taxi, crashed into a Starbucks, and climbed to the top of a church. He hears voices and believes that movie stars like Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro are talking to him through their movies. Still, Fred thinks he’s ready to move out of his parents’ house and live on his own for good … but should his family let him? Talk about the show here.

 

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August 22, 2006, 2:01 pm PDT

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I have had BPII all my life (I am now 38).  I was diagnosed only 6 years ago, and my life is hell.

 

Just admitted myself into a hospital for the first time ever a few weeks ago, and it did help, but I really wish they knew more about my brain.  I am signing up for the Brain Scan that Dr. Phil had on his show recently, although I have no clue how I will pay for it.  If I ask Daddy for another 10 grand, he is gonna need a doctor instead of me :-)

 

I came to the conclusion that this disease has be so hard on my wife of 11 years,  and my 7 yr old son, that I was seriously considering just driving off and never returning.  So, I checked myself into the hospital, hoping to get a brain scan, but, it's only out in California and CO.  Bummer.

 

It really sucks to have to "Act" your whole life, because in the end, you just cannot do it anymore, you fall flat on your face;  It's hard to maintain the Act when you are stareing into the cement :-)

 

Glen

I have BP 1, have had it all my life, but diagnosed 10 years ago.

 

My disorder has caused much pain for my husband of 25 years and to my 3 boys.  The oldest one is now clued in on just what is going on.  The younger two have and age-appropriate understanding of my disorder.

 

New medications have made me much more stable, and hopefully, "Oger Mom" is gone for good.  Although a brain scan might give a more complete picture, you already know what you have.  If you are feeling unstable on your current meds, do some research on newer meds (I'm on Lamictal and Abilify), and ask your doctor about them.

 

Hang in there.  Your wife obviously loves you and is committed to you, or she would have taken off a long time ago.  Your son needs his dad.

 

Whenever I fall into a deep depression, I can "act" normal, even though my feelings are in the toilet.  It would scare people to know how I really feel.  When I am manic, it is hard to act normal.  I am giddy, make a lot of jokes (not all of them nice), and feel bad later, when I realize what I have said.

 

Please leave the car keys in your pocket and stick around. 

 

 With all of my health problems and mental health issues, people have asked my husband why he stays married to me. (what a rude question!)  My husband replies that we vowed to be there for each other "in sickness and in health", and we are both committed to keeping that vow...25 years now!  Living with my husband isn't always so rosy either..he has his own health problems and mental health issues.  We just understand each other.  My husband often recognizes my manic moods before I do.

 

Remember, your family loves you and needs you.

 

I'll keep you in my prayers.

 
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August 22, 2006, 2:06 pm PDT

keep being her friend

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My good friend of 15 years has it.  I have always been there for her, so I thought.

Well,  in January she got married without inviting me.  This is the last straw.  I

can no longer be her friend.   She is 45,  acts childlike,   has migraines,  in and

out of hospitals.  I am often the only one that visits her at the hospitals  (besides family), 

I  kept in touch, offer support, to the point I am  feeling like I am stalking her.

I love her un-conditionally,  she is my friend.    What can I do?     I have seen her

do great when she excersizes,  she gives up,  it's a viscious roller-coaster.

I am praying for me to be more tolerant.  I am praying for her.

Don't give up on your friend.  Encourage her to have her doctor help her find the right combination of medictaions.  Keep praying for her.  I'm sure she really appreciated your committment to her, even if she doesn't show it.  Migraines are horrible.  Bipolar disorder is horrible to live with.  Keep being her friend.  The rollercoaster between mania and depression makes a person inconsistent in the motivation department.  When she is doing well, she is probably manic...mania is fun.  Depression isn't fun at all, and all hope and ambition is lost.  God bless you for being her friend.  I'll pray for you.
 
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August 23, 2006, 7:43 am PDT

about highs

I watched the show and was disappointed that it would show someone who is fixated on TV and then put him on TV. talk about highs. I have had bp for most of my life but didn't find out till 1993. I thought I was super mom and could do anything, till i ended up in the hospital. My history is filled with hospitalizations for all levels and symptoms of bp. I have been stable for several years and when I saw the show I was disappointed that it didn't promote more therapy as well as drugs. I felt the show didn't focus enough on how it effects the family , job ,social live and all other areas. I realize that it is a large topic and has many different areas to cover. I only hope in the future it is covered again and covers such things such as how easily a small high can turn on you and how fast depression hits and how deeply it go's. my best wishes to those of you that have this illness and I hope you receive the help you need. God Bless
 
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August 23, 2006, 10:33 am PDT

Just a thought that came to me yesterday

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I am so glad that you don't think of death every minute of everyday. Right now that is what we are working on with my 15 yr old the last report was about every other day. Still it is very depressing. Sometime I feel like I'm not doing enough for my children cause I can't take away their pain. You pointed out that I am doing all I can by loving them unconditionally and I do. I am so glad you did not succeed in you suicide attempt and you are still here for your babies. I wish you the very best in life. You are in my prayers also.      

If someone is constantly thinking of death, I would challenge them to think of birth and to verbalize examples that come to mind.  This may work best if one goes outdoors as one may see moms with their babies in strollers, birds, fish, puppies, new green grass, water(life giving force), and most importantly sunshine.

 

I make this challenge as we must consciously change our negative thinking patterns into positive ones.  It requires vigilance and effort, butwith practice we can achieve greater inner peace.

 

Please feed the depressed only fresh, wholesome foods, limit the sugars and fats and especially the processed fast foods.  Try to eliminate the sodas with water and maybe lemon....lets try to flush out the toxins in their system....and by all means try and get them outside each day for at least ten minutes of fresh air...start slow by walking....hopefully progress to briskly walking and or God willing a run someday.  Breathing deeply is powerful.

 

God bless. 

 
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August 23, 2006, 10:37 am PDT

Life will get better

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Do not accept illusions. 
I too was diagnosed at age 40, am 44 now.  I can look back and see the BP throughout my life.  It too is in my family.....my grandfather was rumored to be paranoid sz.  My 76 year old mom is probably an undiagnosed quick cycler BPII.  I agree it is frustrating that noone has the answers but we all must do the best we can each day as that is all we have.  There are no quarantees, but we can manage this pretty well,
 
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August 23, 2006, 11:55 am PDT

your story could be mine

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I watched the show and was disappointed that it would show someone who is fixated on TV and then put him on TV. talk about highs. I have had bp for most of my life but didn't find out till 1993. I thought I was super mom and could do anything, till i ended up in the hospital. My history is filled with hospitalizations for all levels and symptoms of bp. I have been stable for several years and when I saw the show I was disappointed that it didn't promote more therapy as well as drugs. I felt the show didn't focus enough on how it effects the family , job ,social live and all other areas. I realize that it is a large topic and has many different areas to cover. I only hope in the future it is covered again and covers such things such as how easily a small high can turn on you and how fast depression hits and how deeply it go's. my best wishes to those of you that have this illness and I hope you receive the help you need. God Bless

Wow!  Been there, done that.  Counseling, as well as meds saved my life, although it took years and years to find the right combo of meds.  I learned to turn the negative thoughts into positive.  I agree that Dr. Phil should have emphasized that counseling is key.  I was sexually abused as a child, as well as physically, emotionally, and yet I survived.

 

 I still have mood swings, but now I can recognize the moods and cope much better.  My self esteem is out of the toilet.  I would encourage all with BP, who feel unstable, to get into counseling, and get your thoughts and your lives under control.  You can live a happy life, in spite of your illness.  (Getting the public properly educated about mental illness would be a big help too.)

 
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August 24, 2006, 10:12 am PDT

Can you separate out any of your emotions

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Do not accept illusions. 
You mentioned that you are anxious and have panic attacks.  I associate this with fear.  Is that too simple or is it accurate?  Do you know what you are fearful of?  When I was having my manic episodes, I have had four major ones in the past three years resulting in hospitalizations, my first one or two episodes had intense anxiety/pyschosis associated with it.  My fear was of dying.  Episode three and four did not have anxiety or psychosis, as I learned not to be fearful of death, that I have eternal life, thanks be to God.  Yes, my spiritual faith has deepened and grown to a point which helps me manage my BP, but I still HAVE to take my meds
 
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August 25, 2006, 9:37 am PDT

check out Mental Health...Bipolar Board

There are a lot of people posting to the Board.  Check out under Mental Health, then go to the Bipolar board.  There are a lot of interesting stories there.  If you go back to August 17th posting, "mensan" has written a book about being bipolar.  She has given her email address, where you can get more info on ordering her book.  I'm excited to order it and read it.  There are also some good postings on the Borderline Personality Disorder board.
 
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August 26, 2006, 4:14 pm PDT

let's hear it for the meds

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You mentioned that you are anxious and have panic attacks.  I associate this with fear.  Is that too simple or is it accurate?  Do you know what you are fearful of?  When I was having my manic episodes, I have had four major ones in the past three years resulting in hospitalizations, my first one or two episodes had intense anxiety/pyschosis associated with it.  My fear was of dying.  Episode three and four did not have anxiety or psychosis, as I learned not to be fearful of death, that I have eternal life, thanks be to God.  Yes, my spiritual faith has deepened and grown to a point which helps me manage my BP, but I still HAVE to take my meds

Staying on your meds is the most important part of phych treatment.  Mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.  Medications help to get the balance of chemicals back to where it should be.  If you go off of your meds when you feel better, you are just asking for trouble.

 

I suffer from panic attacks...stemming from childhood abuse...fear of running short of money before running short of bills...fear of the death of a family member...bad dreams...many causes.  I have a box that I keep by my bed...it's my  "worry box".  When I start having racing thoughts, I write down what the worry is on a small piece of paper...just a few words about it.  Then, I slip the paper into the box and let the worry go.  When I have time to deal with the worries the next day, I pray to God for His wisdom and guidance, then I open the box and deal rationally with each worry and try to find solutions, or decide that I wasted a worry on something not that important, or that some things are out of my control, and I just have to trust in God to lead me on the right path and to be there when I need somebody to lean on. 

 

I also take meds at bedtime that calm anxiety and help me to sleep.  A well-rested mind is more likely to be able to deal with daily stressors.  I take a combination of meds for the bipolar disorder too.  Without the meds...I'd be off the deep end in a heartbeat.  Been there, done that.

 
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August 28, 2006, 11:07 pm PDT

without meds, the light at the end of the tunnel IS a freight train

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 Sorry folks, nothing profound to say. I just needed a safe place to vent a little, maybe rant/rave with some anonimity.  I am newly diagnosed and currently on Lithium.  I haven't seen a counselor or psychiatrist yet although I have an appointment for intake in a couple of weeks. I am so sad and so scared. I'm trying to hold it together so my children (grown) won't find out.  I am dealing with depression, but it's more than that. There is a component of frustration and anger that I keep a tight lid on. My tolerance for BS is extremely limited. I feel very sad and lonely. I'm not a young person and I am so tired of dealing with things. I've always considered myself a survivor but now I'm not so sure the effort is worth it. I've been reading about bipolar disorder and there is precious little that is engouraging. Do I want to spend the rest of my life on these #@!%& drugs with their side effects? In the past I have been treated for depression with suicidal ideations. I was hospitalized a few times but that was six years ago. My family was supportive, but they are human beings after all and I'm sure that they are sick to death of "mom's problems". To tell the truth I am sick to death of it too and now I'm Bipolar? Oh boy, I want to live with that the rest of my life. Everything in me wants to get the hell out of Dodge but if I did I'd end up just another mentally ill person on the streets and a bag lady to boot! I know I should be greatful for my blessings and I feel guilty about feeling the way I do, but, it's just so hard. Please excuse me, I feel so stupid, I'm just having a pity party - a long pity party. I'll write again when I can think of something positive to say.  Ya'll take care.

I hope you are feeling better, as it has been awhile since you posted.  You family should be your main support when you need it.  Afterall, you've been there for them all of their lives.  Your family loves you and will not get tired of taking care of "mom". 

 

Unmedicated Bipolar disorder is a fast train on a short track!

 

If you are worried about medication side effects, discuss it with your doctor.  Ask about side effects for every medication that your doctor wants to prescribe.  But, remember that everybody experiences side effects individually.  You may not have all of the side effects that the drug lists...you might not have any.  Sometimes, it is a trade-off...a few side effects in exchange for a peaceful mind.  Yes, you will need medication for the rest of your life, but you are still alive, and the meds can get you to a new level of normal.  Counseling is sooooo important too.  Counseling will give you the tools you need to cope with every day stressors.  It will help you to recognize your mood swings before they become extreme.

 

I have been on Bipolar meds for 10 years...I can't say it has all been a picnic, but I'm on a good combination of meds, and I take life one day at a time.

 

I'll pray for you.

 
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