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Topic : 03/28 Money Hungry

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Created on : Thursday, March 23, 2006, 07:15:01 pm
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How far would you go to make or save some extra cash? Christy calls her husband, Joel, the ultimate cheapskate. She says they never go on dates, and the last time she received a present from him was four years ago. She says Joel is such a tightwad, she even had to buy her own wedding ring! Then, Nichole says her sister, Amber, is so addicted to cold, hard cash that she even took a dangerous job breathing fire and married a man for $5,000. Amber admits she’s stuck in a vicious cycle and says she can’t get out.Will she be able to change her money-motivated lifestyle? Plus, meet a woman obsessed with scratch-off lottery tickets, and a mom who worries she’s raising a money-hungry son. Talk about the show here.

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March 28, 2006, 10:18 pm PST

03/28 Money Hungry

She must get out for her own good.  Nothing is worth doing what she is doing to gain what you are alluding to.  Eventually guilt, shame and worry will overtake all the benefits so get out now.  find another job.
 
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March 29, 2006, 12:46 am PST

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I had it in my mind when I left home that the scratching would stop once I reached L.A. I was glad I didn't bring extra money with me because god knows I could of won in another state right? There was this tension inside me that turned me into a flight risk overnight.

They don't  care that I am a recovering alcoholic with over fourteen years of sobriety under my belt. They don't  care that my childs father is always around us, and usually drunk ,so I am constantly on guard . They don't know that before I started escorting my baby and I were hungry and sleeping on a matress on the floor. We NEVER had ANYTHING-EVER!

They don't know my child takes riding lessons and has a great Mother that will do anything for her. Including escorting to give her a life I never had. I come from a huge family. I don't remember most of my childhood. I remember getting my first bike. My older brother, now deseased, gave it to me. Right after he had me locked in the bathroom with him ,with me doing a handstand while he performed oral sex on me. He then tried to penetrate me but I was to small. I think I was nine.That still burns my soul . I wish people would stop using the word normal. What is it anyway? Is it normal when we behave like the rest of society?

What was done to me all those years were crimes. I have had neighbors, so called friends of  the family doing things to me.I've been raped, robbed ,jumped and molested by another brother still living. I had two sisters that tried things with me too.When I was around ten there was this old guy who used to look for me and would give me two dollars if I did some thing with him.Usually he wanted me to talk dirty or read dirty books to him. I never did.He would perform oral sex on me. I just wanted the money so I could eat.Growing up my fridge was always empty.

I was a very shy, quiet and desperately in need of love and support .The kind that comes looking for you when you need it and don't have to ask.I remember sitting on my bed when I was tenish. I was sad with tears streaming down. I was thinking about how empty I felt inside as a person, a child,I wondered why there was no happiness  in my home. I said to myself out loud, through my tears , that I would not be like them. Like my so called family ,that hadn't an ounce of love or compassion in it. Years later I learned ,through very painful experiences ,that I remained true to that relization. True to myself.I'm proud of that. Proud that despite all the horrors I am a kind person.I would help anybody anytime. I was even in a coma and had to learn to walk again. I almost died many times during that time.Oh and after I woke up that was the first time my Mother told me she loved me. It was strange to hear and I felt she said it out of guilt.My faith in others can be considered a pyrrhic victory.

Not to me.

I am a kind, decent, yes decent, loving person who has never hurt a soul intentionally in my life. I try to help people . I try every day to be considerate to all. I have never let the experiences of my life destroy my ability to show and acknowledge love in others. I tell my daughter I love her every single day at least a dozen times. I look her in the eye and we talk about everything. She knows more than a lot of women. And not from things she has seen.

Dr. Phil please hear this...

I pay my bills and more than once used rent money to gamble. There is a whole life here that goes on other than JUST GAMBLING. Like when we go out. I am buying tickets but we are still out and have fun.I want all fun and no tickets. That's why I went on the show. I could have bought a house in cash with the money I have wasted. As far as hooking I am surprised that I can even have an orgasm .I often do with clients.I have become a vocal lover and to ask for what I want. I can direct too.I don't just take their money and get naked. I talk to these men. Often they feel bad about being with me. That doesn't stop them though.

I teach them to be better lovers too. I help men work on the relationships. I've helped them plan trips and surprises for their mates. Told them what to say after they have fought . Gave them ideas on working things out with their partners.And for future reference I am not a cheap whore. I require a $250.00 donation per hour and I don't take credit cards.I don't do weird stuff either. Straight up boy scouts are what I tend to.

No you don't know me.

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Louise
 
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March 29, 2006, 5:21 am PST

Thrifty/Frugal is NOT a bad thing!

I actually found myself cheering for the "cheapskate" husband--I couldn't believe he was being berated for trying to save money and resources!  Using tape to repair a perfectly good diaper (which, by the way, will be peed and pooped in and thrown away) was a logical thing to do, not cheap.  Too many people are so quick to throw things away that could be saved with a little time or ingenuity.  It was refreshing to see someone with a thrifty mindset.   

  

This husband should, however, make sure to make his wife feel special--paying compliments, doing things without being asked, leaving "love" notes--all contribute to a healthy marriage.  People who love and care for each other should not need to prove it by buying each other gifts.  Does she make him feel special--or is she constantly criticizing him for his "thrifty" tendencies?   

  

  

 
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March 29, 2006, 12:29 pm PST

I Married one

I married one he spent money on himself and not on me or our kids.It got to the piont I was dumpster diving to find clothes for me and the kids while he had new clothers to ware and shoes.If we ran out of food he would go out to eat and leave us to sttarve at home.I finaly had it with him and one day when we were going out to see some of his family I dressed in his clothes no shoes and put the kids in the most outrages clothes in thies closets no shoes cause they had none that fit them and the clothes didn't fit.We went to visist his family.He was so embaressed.I told them all when asked why he had new clothes and the kids and I were dressed so bad.I said he spends the mony on himself and bills not on the family.I was saked what happened to the mon I earned I told them he told me I was not good enough to have any and was ordered to hand it over to him.Needless to say he was so embaressed by this that he lets me get what I and the kids need.As for himself.He is the one to have only one pare of pants and just a few shirts.I could care less either I and our kids walked around warin nothing for sveral years.He is still a cheapsake in many wys but I have leaned to put the screws to him if I do not get what is needed for our family.I have never spent but what is needed.He on the other hand got us into 40 thousand dollare of debt. and he is the one working on getting us out of it not me.I never was allowed to have or spend money.Until know I am the one who has never gotten us into debt.
 
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March 29, 2006, 12:39 pm PST

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I actually found myself cheering for the "cheapskate" husband--I couldn't believe he was being berated for trying to save money and resources!  Using tape to repair a perfectly good diaper (which, by the way, will be peed and pooped in and thrown away) was a logical thing to do, not cheap.  Too many people are so quick to throw things away that could be saved with a little time or ingenuity.  It was refreshing to see someone with a thrifty mindset.   

  

This husband should, however, make sure to make his wife feel special--paying compliments, doing things without being asked, leaving "love" notes--all contribute to a healthy marriage.  People who love and care for each other should not need to prove it by buying each other gifts.  Does she make him feel special--or is she constantly criticizing him for his "thrifty" tendencies?   

  

  

   I think you can be to cheap.He is a cheap skate in my books.You do need to spend some money on your spouse dand do the things you say to.It is very reduculas to glue pants back to gether when you can go to walmart and but a new pair for $10.00.only a vey brake person would do that.As they say you Can't take it with you when you die.I am not saying to get into dept but.have fun while you are on this planet.enjoy life I have seen.First hand pepole who are very cheap and all look like very unhappy people.Why not enjoy yourself without getting into debt.and prvide for you family .The pepole around the cheap skates our unhappy and others are always making fun of them at thier expence.So cheaskates cannot be have to much fun in life if they are always worried about how to save a penny.I know that thier are not much fun to be aound or to live with.very boring people.
 
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March 29, 2006, 12:53 pm PST

girl stripper creates a cycle for future generations

I WAS MONEY HUNGRY ONCE.  I WAS A DANCER, I BECAME ADDICTED TO THE MONEY.  NO EDUCATION, NO NOTHING, A MARRIAGE I NEEDEDOUT OF.  I WAS WATCHING MYSELF ON TV. 

I DIDN'T CATCH THE WHOLE STORY OF THIS GIRL BUT GIRL, YOU NEED TO GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR YOUTH.  BECAUSE NO ONE IS GONNA GIVE YOU MONEY WHEN YOUR OLDER.  THERE IS ALWAYS FRESH AND YOUNGER MEAT COMING INTO THE BUSINESS.  I STARTED AT 28YRS OLD AND GOT OUT WHEN I RAN OFF WITH THE OWNER, DESTROYED HIS FAMILY AND MINE.  MY GIRLS SAW ALL OF THIS AND I HAVE A 30 YR OLD DAUGHTER  WHO IS LIVING THE SAME HORRIBLE LIFESTYLE.  THIS IS A VISIOUS CYCLE TO BREAK.  I WAS IN MY THIRTIES WHEN I FINALLY GOT ALL THE WAY OUT.  BUT WHILE IN IT I HAD A NEW CAR, NEW HOUSE, NEW EVERYTHING EVERY DAY.  BUT WHEN IT WAS OVER I HAD NOTHING BUT A CLUCKY OLD CAR, AND LIVING WITH MY PARENTS.  I RECIEVED AN EDUCATION AND BECAME A NURSE.  GET OUT WHILE YOUR YOUNG.  ITS  A DEMEANING JOB AND IF YOU SAY YOU DON'T FEEL BAD, ITS BECAUSE YOUR COVERING UP SOME KIND OF PAIN TO WHERE IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY MATTER SO I MIGHT AS WELL DO THIS.  GET OUT. 

 
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March 29, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

RE AMBER

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In marriages & families, they are a symbol that the other person cares enough about you to bother buying one.  A spouse who chronically overlooks his or her spouse on birthdays, Christmas, & Valentine's day is broadcasting a huge message of indifference.  It's not that the wife wants the monetary value of the gift, she wants to know that her husband cared enough to give her one.  And if he is giving gifts to ex-girlfriends, that's sending a HUGE message of indifference toward his wife & that she's at the bottom of his priorities. 

  

As for Amber's sister, I totally got the vibe that she's there to help her sister, not that she's jealous.  I suspect Amber wanted the intervention at some level or she wouldn't have agreed to be on Dr. Phil.  (Unless she was merely scamming a vacation to L.A. out of this.)  Sure she looks good in her costumes NOW, but what happens when her employers consider her too old for the costumes & she has no savings & no job skills?  Her sister foresees Amber's future if Amber stays on the same path & is trying to help her.. 

SHE NEEDS TO FIND SOME STRIPPERS WHO ARE OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND SEE HOW MANY ARE SUCCESSFUL. THERE ARE A FEW WHO MAKE IT BUT MOST END UP WITH NOTHING.  HER SISTER HAS THE RIGHT IDEA TO HELP AMBER.  THE PERSON WHO QUOTED LEAVE HER ALONE LET HER HAVE SOME FUN.  SHES NOT HAVING FUN SHE EVEN SAID SHE WASN'T HAPPY.  SHE HAS BURIED SOMETHING THAT HAS MADE HER FEEL LIKE WELL I JUST DON'T MATTER ANYMORE, WHY GIVE IT AWAY WHEN YOU CAN SALE IT.  I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.  I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO GET A ROOM FULL OF STRIPPERS AND SEE HTE MANY DIVERSITYS OF WOMEN THERE ARE.  BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ONE THING.  WHAT WAS THE FIRST HURT THAT GOT THEM TO TAKE THERE CLOTHES OFF. THEN THEY GOT ADDICTED TO THE FAST CASH.  THATS A HIGH,  ITS AN ADDICTION AND YOU HAVE TO REALIZE YOU AINT GONNA GET RICH, YOUR STILL LIVING DAY TO DAY AND BUYING ALL THAT FANCY STUFF AINT GONNA MAKE YOU HURT GO AWAY.  IT MAY TAKE A MAJOR EVENT OF THE WRONG KIND TO GET YOU OUT.  ITS PROBABLY WHAT GOT YOU THER.E  GOD BLESS ,  THE OLD STRIPPER
 
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March 29, 2006, 2:10 pm PST

I have put myself through school

To DADATHOME: Dude, I have worked hard to put myself through school making the money that I make. I have a Bachelor's Degree which took me three and a half years to complete, so don't sit there and say that I haven't worked hard. Yeah, I've made my choice in life and I don't have a problem with what I do for a living. I dance, okay. I entertain people. Nobody touches me. I go home at the end of the day and I can look myself in the mirror and I can sleep at night. It sounds like you have some issues when it comes to women. Maybe you are jealous cuz you wish you could strip. Or maybe you don't get enough lovin'. 

  

Anyway, this job does not define me as a person. I have a lot of love, peace and hobbies that make my life worthwhile, which is a hell of a lot more than most people have. And FYI, I'm starting school again.  

 
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March 29, 2006, 8:38 pm PST

eeek!

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I married one he spent money on himself and not on me or our kids.It got to the piont I was dumpster diving to find clothes for me and the kids while he had new clothers to ware and shoes.If we ran out of food he would go out to eat and leave us to sttarve at home.I finaly had it with him and one day when we were going out to see some of his family I dressed in his clothes no shoes and put the kids in the most outrages clothes in thies closets no shoes cause they had none that fit them and the clothes didn't fit.We went to visist his family.He was so embaressed.I told them all when asked why he had new clothes and the kids and I were dressed so bad.I said he spends the mony on himself and bills not on the family.I was saked what happened to the mon I earned I told them he told me I was not good enough to have any and was ordered to hand it over to him.Needless to say he was so embaressed by this that he lets me get what I and the kids need.As for himself.He is the one to have only one pare of pants and just a few shirts.I could care less either I and our kids walked around warin nothing for sveral years.He is still a cheapsake in many wys but I have leaned to put the screws to him if I do not get what is needed for our family.I have never spent but what is needed.He on the other hand got us into 40 thousand dollare of debt. and he is the one working on getting us out of it not me.I never was allowed to have or spend money.Until know I am the one who has never gotten us into debt.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you need to go to school or do some reading to get yourself more educated. I am not sure what kind of job you have, but if you need to get out of debt, you should get your spelling and writing a bit better so you can make more money! Sorry if that sounds mean!
 
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March 30, 2006, 2:02 pm PST

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Please don't take this the wrong way, but you need to go to school or do some reading to get yourself more educated. I am not sure what kind of job you have, but if you need to get out of debt, you should get your spelling and writing a bit better so you can make more money! Sorry if that sounds mean!
 I can spell.I just more often then not hit the wrong keys.Then I forget to use the spell check. As soon as I went through the bills and did a debt analysis.We went on a debt diet.We have no more credt cards.We got most of our rates down. We live on a budget.We our almost out of debt.As for my h he has come to the realization that his needs come last.The kids come first I come second.That is needs not the fun suff.We do fun stuff when we can aford it.Right now I am tring to figure out how to fit braces,college,a working car in to our budget.I am not a uneducated person although I did not go to collage.I did graduate from high school.I would sometime in the future like to go to a technical school.I have my hands full at this time getting my three kids through the maze of this school system. All fo them are on I.E.P.'s.I cannot at this time aford to go back to school.I am not stupid person I just made a mistake at a young age out of high school and married young and stupid. My friend likes to say at that time we all married stupid and young it was back in the late 1970's when evryone I knew was getting married right out of school.So I did to.Not to say I didn't love him.We both needed to grow up.I did I learned to stand up for myself and my kids.I found my voice.I use It alot now.We both have to agree on the big items or he gets into trouble with me.So he spends nothing that will cost alot or we have a chat and take it back.He know consults me on the spending of our money we set down and go over our bills.I am not uneducated just a bad speller on this thing.I was a very young bride to a very young stupid man.He now sees the light..I have advised my kids that they must be out of college traveled all over gotten what the want out of life.And have a good career and money.Before they get involved with a life partner.The older you are the more education you have .The better you will be at coping with what life has to offer.I am not saying toget married and have kids well into your 50's.But I think it is better to wait to get married in your mid to late 20's or even in your early 30's.I will go back to school at sometime.I am a good speller just a bad typer and spell checker.Not all of us can type with perfection
 
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