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Are you sharing a child with someone who doesn't live with you? Share your story and your strategies for effective parenting.

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May 13, 2007, 6:11 am PDT

LET IT GO ALREADY

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My son is 4 years old, 5 in Feb. 2006. When he was first born, me and his father were not together any longer. I was with someone else, he was single. He come to the hopsital when he was born and had regular visits with him, he took responsibilty. He only paid $25.00 a week CS, and made pretty good money, but I told him as long as he was a part of our sons life and helped me when I needed additional help that 25 was fine.  Well 4 months later he got his self a new girlfriend (who was my long time rival I might add) Suddenly, visits slow down (his family would still see him) CS stopped.My son almost died in the hospital and he lived 30 min. from the hospital and she wouldn't let him come see our 4 month old son who almost died. He claimed he didn't have a way, but she had a brand new car sitting in the drive, if she was half a woman she wouldn't have brought him to see his son. Well........she didn't. He survived, without his dads support. A couple of times they would split up and he would call me and me being stupid and neuve would take him back. Then they would get back together. Now all these years later, I'm remarried to a wonderful man who is a great daddy to my son. His real father has not seen him in a couple of years. Me and my husband has talked about him adopting. The real father is having CS garnished out of his check $42 a week. I have asked him to sign his rights over, he said he would if I drew up papers stating that I didn't want any future support. But I decided, what gives him the right to get out the responsibility of this child? So, I decided against it.  

But..........should I? Is that $42 a week mean that much that I should let this worthless piece for a father be in my sons life any longer? He adores my husband. What do you think? 

lETS THINK ABOUT THIS.  IS THIS ABOUT PUNISHING THE EX OR LOVING AND CARING FOR THE CHILD.  $42/WK IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY.  I WOULD LET IT GO.  LET THE OTHER MAN BE THE FATHER.  IN THE END, THE CHILD AND YOURSELF WILL BE MUCH BETTER AS A RESULT. 
 
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May 13, 2007, 6:39 am PDT

GET A GRIP BACT.

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It's unfortunate that you all are having to go through this. I was the BioMom in a similar, but not identical scenario about 2 1/2 years ago. In my situation, daughter's future stepmom swooped in during the course of a whirlwind courtship and carried on in large measure as though I was dead, or worse, the Wicked Witch of the West (she believed my ex's stories about me for a long time...much of which were half-truths or outright lies).

 

At least where I live, the boilerplate language under "Shared Parental Responsibility" in divorce decrees states in plain English that, essentially, thou shalt not encourage the child to use the titles "Mom" and "Dad" (and any derivatives thereof) for ANYBODY except the biological mother and father, respectively. I think it can reasonably be inferred that such practice should be discouraged. In fact, my daughter was NEVER encouraged to call her stepdad "Dad", for the very same reasons (they are quite close, she may well be closer to her stepdad than to her biological one). You claim you see no harm in what you did, i.e., allowing Savannah to call you "Mom." Does it occur to you or to your husband that to do so can be confusing for a 6-y/o?

 

There is NOTHING wrong with a step-mom wanting her stepchild to be close to her and be comfortable with her...far from it. My own daughter had a great rapport with her soon-to-be ex-stepmom, but calling her "Mom" crossed a line, and I did tell my ex- (calmly, I am not justifying shouting matches and court threats) to put a stop to it (see above boilerplate). Please put yourself into BioMom's shoes.  Would you want YOUR children calling some other woman "Mom"?

 

If BioMom has other issues with, or is using the child to get back at, your ex and you, that's another matter. I am confused, however...in one place in your post you describe the "struggle" to get close to your stepdaughter, and "his ex- has caused much turmoil in our home", yet "Things were just fine and peaceful until Savannah started to call me Mom." Is the nomenclature issue just the latest in a string of arguments between your hubby and his ex? It may be better to "lose the battle," so to speak, and concern yourself with the relationship with your stepdaughter, as opposed to worrying about the title...maybe Savannah could come up with a special "pet" name for you?

 

-bact 

I AM A "BIO"MOM AS WELL AS A STEPMOTHER.  MY STEP CHILDREN HAVE NEVER CALLED ME MOM BUT ONE OF THE TWO THINKS OF ME AS HIS MOTHER.  THE OTHER VIEWS ME AS DIRT.  AS A MOTHER HOWEVER I AM COPARENTING MY SONS LIFE WITH HIS DAD AND OTHER MOTHER.  SHE IS THE STEP IN THIS INSTANCE.  I ADORE HER.  SHE WOULD NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME OR  I ABOUT HER OR MY EX HUSBAND.  MY SON LOVES HER.   I HAVE HEARD HIM REFER TO HER AS MOM.  IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.  HE REALIZED THAT I OVERHEARD (I WAS SPENDING THE NIGHT IN THEIR HOME WHILE DROPPING OUR CHILD OFF FOR THE SUMMER, WITH MY AUNT) AND WAS VERY WORRIED THAT I WOULD BE UPSET OR HURT.  I TOLD HIM IT WAS FINE WITH ME THAT HE CALL HER MOM.  SHE IS HIS MOM.  WHEN HE IS IN HER HOME THAT IS THE ROLE HE FILLS.  NONE OF US WOULD INSIST THAT HE DO SO.  IT IS HIS CHOICE.  IT ISN'T CONFUSING IN THE LEAST.  HE KNOWS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.  HE KNOWS I'M HIS MOMMY AND THAT I GAVE BIRTH TO HIM AND HE CAME OUT OF MY STOMACH.  HE KNOWS SHE MARRIED HIS DAD AND LOVES HIM AS SHE LOVES HER OWN TWO BABIES.  TO HIM THAT MAKES HER A MOM.  SHE BANDAGES HIS INJURIES AND BAKES BROWINES WITH HIM.  THATS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR HER TO BE HIS MOM.  HE HAS GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S FROM HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY AS WELL AS AN UNCLE AND COUSINS.  WHO AM I AS A "BIO" TO TAKE THAT FROM MY CHILD.  THAT IS HIS FAMILY.  THOSE ARE PEOPLE HE LOVES THAT LOVE HIM BACK.  HE CAN CALL THEM ANYTHING HE CHOOSES.  IT IS MY RESPONSABILITY TO BE MATURE ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME THINGS ABOUT MY SON.  THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.  THIS IS ABOUT HIM.  NOT ME.  A TITLE OR NAME DOESN'T CHANGE MY SIGNIFICANCE IN ANY FASHION.  IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM  LOVE ME ANY LESS OR HER ANY MORE.  BUT MY ACCEPTANCE OF HIS CHOICE SHOWS MY LOVE FOR HIM AND HELPS HIM FEEL SECURE IN HIMSELF.  THIS IS ABOUT THE CHILD.  NOT ABOUT THE MOTHER.  "BIO"  MOMS LIKE THIS NEED TO STOP BEING SELFISH AND THINKING ABOUT THEMSELVES.  MAKE IT ABOUT THE KIDS.  THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT.
 
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May 13, 2007, 4:42 pm PDT

My grip is fine, thank you

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I AM A "BIO"MOM AS WELL AS A STEPMOTHER.  MY STEP CHILDREN HAVE NEVER CALLED ME MOM BUT ONE OF THE TWO THINKS OF ME AS HIS MOTHER.  THE OTHER VIEWS ME AS DIRT.  AS A MOTHER HOWEVER I AM COPARENTING MY SONS LIFE WITH HIS DAD AND OTHER MOTHER.  SHE IS THE STEP IN THIS INSTANCE.  I ADORE HER.  SHE WOULD NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME OR  I ABOUT HER OR MY EX HUSBAND.  MY SON LOVES HER.   I HAVE HEARD HIM REFER TO HER AS MOM.  IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.  HE REALIZED THAT I OVERHEARD (I WAS SPENDING THE NIGHT IN THEIR HOME WHILE DROPPING OUR CHILD OFF FOR THE SUMMER, WITH MY AUNT) AND WAS VERY WORRIED THAT I WOULD BE UPSET OR HURT.  I TOLD HIM IT WAS FINE WITH ME THAT HE CALL HER MOM.  SHE IS HIS MOM.  WHEN HE IS IN HER HOME THAT IS THE ROLE HE FILLS.  NONE OF US WOULD INSIST THAT HE DO SO.  IT IS HIS CHOICE.  IT ISN'T CONFUSING IN THE LEAST.  HE KNOWS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.  HE KNOWS I'M HIS MOMMY AND THAT I GAVE BIRTH TO HIM AND HE CAME OUT OF MY STOMACH.  HE KNOWS SHE MARRIED HIS DAD AND LOVES HIM AS SHE LOVES HER OWN TWO BABIES.  TO HIM THAT MAKES HER A MOM.  SHE BANDAGES HIS INJURIES AND BAKES BROWINES WITH HIM.  THATS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR HER TO BE HIS MOM.  HE HAS GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S FROM HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY AS WELL AS AN UNCLE AND COUSINS.  WHO AM I AS A "BIO" TO TAKE THAT FROM MY CHILD.  THAT IS HIS FAMILY.  THOSE ARE PEOPLE HE LOVES THAT LOVE HIM BACK.  HE CAN CALL THEM ANYTHING HE CHOOSES.  IT IS MY RESPONSABILITY TO BE MATURE ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME THINGS ABOUT MY SON.  THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.  THIS IS ABOUT HIM.  NOT ME.  A TITLE OR NAME DOESN'T CHANGE MY SIGNIFICANCE IN ANY FASHION.  IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM  LOVE ME ANY LESS OR HER ANY MORE.  BUT MY ACCEPTANCE OF HIS CHOICE SHOWS MY LOVE FOR HIM AND HELPS HIM FEEL SECURE IN HIMSELF.  THIS IS ABOUT THE CHILD.  NOT ABOUT THE MOTHER.  "BIO"  MOMS LIKE THIS NEED TO STOP BEING SELFISH AND THINKING ABOUT THEMSELVES.  MAKE IT ABOUT THE KIDS.  THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT.

First off, please refrain from using all caps. It is often construed as "shouting" and is quite difficult to read.

 

Second, I am not entirely sure you read my post all the way through, or  if you did, you picked a few sentences out of context. The boilerplate in Georgia may be different than it is in FL concerning "shared responsibility," which is why I inserted the caveat about "where I live."

 

IF you and you ex- are on reasonable terms (which it sounds as though you are, good 4 you, but bear in mind that yours is the exception), and the "other mother" did not carry on as though you were dead, perhaps it is workable. Also, you do not mention either the age of your son at the time of your ex-'s remarriage or how much time elapsed between your ex-'s remarriage and your son's calling her "Mom." I imagine that it did not happen overnight.

 

In both the situation described in the post to which I was responding and my own, the first condition was not met. Unfortunately, in my situation (which, admittedly, I did not describe blow-by-blow), the (now ex-) stepmother carried on during a 3-month courtship and early on in the new marriage as though I were dead. My daughter was also told half-truths and utter lies about me by my ex-and his family, which the stepmom believed as gospel. Nevertheless, DD was free, e.g.,  to display/carry in her wallet whatever photos she wished. Ironically enough, now that the ex- is divorced from wife #2, HE has a bigger problem with DD carrying a photo of the ex-stepmom in her wallet than I do. In the situation the poster described, this issue about nomenclature was merely another skirmish in a long-running battle-of-the-exes.

 

Please re-read my last paragraph...yes, it is all about the child, which is why I concluded that the relationship w/the stepdaughter needed to take precedence over the title.

 
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May 17, 2007, 11:29 am PDT

how to get bio-mom to put kids first

I am new to this so bear with me.  My husband has 2 kids 9 & 7 from a previous relationship, she wanted to abort the baby (9 year old) as she was MARRIED to another man.  My husband wanted the baby and she figured it would be the way to keep him around.  15 months later, along comes the other child.  My husband left her finally after she stole money from him and got his bills cut off.  They couldn't stand each other.  Fast forward, there was a custody battle and she won, of course, she is the mother and visitation was going ok, as long as she was happy in her life.  We had to move across the states to take care of husband's mom.  We get the boys every summer.  Their mom has been helping with one way travel.  Now something has happened in her life and her need to punish my husband (again) for leaving her results in him not getting the boys as we don't have the money for the round trip tickets.  The boys tell us she bad mouths us to them, tell's them when she hasn't recieved child support, etc.  I have always been the mediator because she provokes my husband when she talks to him to get him angry, then she says he won't be seeing the kids and hangs up.  All we want to do is see the boys the one time a year we are supposed to get them and we want them to be able to love us freely.  Any suggestions on how to fix this situation.   P.S.  as long as her life is going well, she is super nice to us, when she is having a bad day, she tries to punish us by using the children.  I am at my wit's end.  I feel like giving up on trying to fix all of this.  Help?? My husband pays child support every month and she just got several thousand dollars from our taxes from past due support, so it's not like he a deadbeat dad and the kids want to live with us as they have an older brother that does bad things to them and is very mean.  We have had social services involved and she always comes out smelling like roses.
 
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May 20, 2007, 5:54 pm PDT

Co-Parenting

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I AM A "BIO"MOM AS WELL AS A STEPMOTHER.  MY STEP CHILDREN HAVE NEVER CALLED ME MOM BUT ONE OF THE TWO THINKS OF ME AS HIS MOTHER.  THE OTHER VIEWS ME AS DIRT.  AS A MOTHER HOWEVER I AM COPARENTING MY SONS LIFE WITH HIS DAD AND OTHER MOTHER.  SHE IS THE STEP IN THIS INSTANCE.  I ADORE HER.  SHE WOULD NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ME OR  I ABOUT HER OR MY EX HUSBAND.  MY SON LOVES HER.   I HAVE HEARD HIM REFER TO HER AS MOM.  IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.  HE REALIZED THAT I OVERHEARD (I WAS SPENDING THE NIGHT IN THEIR HOME WHILE DROPPING OUR CHILD OFF FOR THE SUMMER, WITH MY AUNT) AND WAS VERY WORRIED THAT I WOULD BE UPSET OR HURT.  I TOLD HIM IT WAS FINE WITH ME THAT HE CALL HER MOM.  SHE IS HIS MOM.  WHEN HE IS IN HER HOME THAT IS THE ROLE HE FILLS.  NONE OF US WOULD INSIST THAT HE DO SO.  IT IS HIS CHOICE.  IT ISN'T CONFUSING IN THE LEAST.  HE KNOWS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.  HE KNOWS I'M HIS MOMMY AND THAT I GAVE BIRTH TO HIM AND HE CAME OUT OF MY STOMACH.  HE KNOWS SHE MARRIED HIS DAD AND LOVES HIM AS SHE LOVES HER OWN TWO BABIES.  TO HIM THAT MAKES HER A MOM.  SHE BANDAGES HIS INJURIES AND BAKES BROWINES WITH HIM.  THATS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR HER TO BE HIS MOM.  HE HAS GRANDMA AND GRANDPA'S FROM HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY AS WELL AS AN UNCLE AND COUSINS.  WHO AM I AS A "BIO" TO TAKE THAT FROM MY CHILD.  THAT IS HIS FAMILY.  THOSE ARE PEOPLE HE LOVES THAT LOVE HIM BACK.  HE CAN CALL THEM ANYTHING HE CHOOSES.  IT IS MY RESPONSABILITY TO BE MATURE ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME THINGS ABOUT MY SON.  THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.  THIS IS ABOUT HIM.  NOT ME.  A TITLE OR NAME DOESN'T CHANGE MY SIGNIFICANCE IN ANY FASHION.  IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM  LOVE ME ANY LESS OR HER ANY MORE.  BUT MY ACCEPTANCE OF HIS CHOICE SHOWS MY LOVE FOR HIM AND HELPS HIM FEEL SECURE IN HIMSELF.  THIS IS ABOUT THE CHILD.  NOT ABOUT THE MOTHER.  "BIO"  MOMS LIKE THIS NEED TO STOP BEING SELFISH AND THINKING ABOUT THEMSELVES.  MAKE IT ABOUT THE KIDS.  THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT.
Here is the problem as I see it with kids calling step-parents mom or dad.

If the ex-spouse gets divorced.

then does their "mom" or "dad" disappear? What does that tell them about parents?

A mom is a mom forever. That's what a mom is. not just a woman who bakes brownies for you-but someone who will dive in front of a truck for you and will never be separated from you, no matter what the marital situation. IF your ex and his wife got a divorce tomorrow, legally she has no claim to the children and probably will not see them anymore, or if she does for a while, probably will stop if she remarries.

So refering to a step as 'mom', who by the same time next year could be out of their lives, does a disservice to moms and dads everywhere, who are in their childs future forever.
 
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May 21, 2007, 6:04 am PDT

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        I have been divorced seven years now. My ex was and is still very abusive he was arrested for strangling me and our son who at the time was under a year old the police took photos.

His mother bailed him out and the same day he was back at the house.I tryed to get away from him so I went to stay with a girlfriend. My ex then went to the court and put a protection from abuse order on me and I had to give him our child. He then sent our son to another state with his mother and I was made to go to couples councling with him and had to do what he wanted  for three months to see our son.  there is more still even I just thought some one could help.

 
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May 21, 2007, 7:19 am PDT

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  I need to also let you know that at the time I was 18 years old and alone. after councling my ex moved us across from his family. I had no schooling past grade nine. tried to get a job but my ex scared the babysitter. no drivers licence. no friends no money. no phone. and when my ex beat me the apartment building we lived in the bank owned and no one else was in the building. I ended up pregnate again wasn't  on birthcontrol it cost money. So I had second child a girl. I guess I just snaped I went to school in secret and got my GED. I also had one shot to get my drivers licence and I did! but that got my ex madder then me crying I was done with him and he knew it so he went to live across the street and did another protection from abuse order on me and the police came and took the kids. He was trying to keep me. this time I left and got my own apartment and as soon as I got  legal help I could have the children on the week ends. So I started to go to school to be a C.N.A.  but my ex would show up at my Apartment at two in the morning ringing my door bell untill I answered . saying I could see the children all the time if we got back togther  yes I went back with him for 8 months the first three months he was nice then he started to be him self and told me he was going to kick me out  on the streets and what he didn't know was he was second on my lease. so I took him off but he started to break in and would be either on the couch in livingroom or standing over me so I moved to a different town then my mother was sick and dieing in another state I wasn't allowed to take the children with me and before I even got off the bus to see my mother in the hospital my ex had already called there 8 times and called up to 6 times a day to see when I was coming back I was only there a week and also my whole family was there we didn't know if she would make it my sister introdouced me to one of her friends and he asked me if he could give me a ride to the hospital and take me to dinner. I don't know how but my ex called him and said every thing bad you could think of . I came back home right away on a plane in stead  of the bus and when I got home I was told I couldn't see the kids and he said I had abandon them. I  am here and our son is with him our daughter is with his mother in another state. I am remarried and have a son with husband. but my ex is still running my life!! He dosn't follow the court order he is in contempt of it and I am lost in this our  kids don't get to see each other . I have no one helping with the court .I have no way to pay for help and I am at my end . this has been going on for half my life and all of the childerens.
 
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May 24, 2007, 9:17 pm PDT

Infant Visitation Guidelines --Help

I am in the middle of a custody/visitation "battle" with my x-boyfriend.  We have a 7 mo old son.  I had an attorney briefly but he spent my money so fast, I am now pro-per.  I live in Northern California.  I am looking for information on the guidelines for infant visitation.  Everything I have been reading state that I should not let my son go for overnights (not that I want him to).  I have read that my x's visitation should be frequent (2 or 3 x per week) for 2-3 hours at a time. Which is basically our current order.  We are now facing what the judge called an assessment.  He has an attorney and like I said I don't.   I would love some feedback or any links to some information to support this.

 
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May 24, 2007, 9:20 pm PDT

Custody/Visistion Assessment - CA

I live in CA and in the middle of a custody/visition case with an x-boyfriend.  Our son is 7 mos. old.  Yesterday, we had a JCC and since we did not come to an agreement, we are now being sent to an assessment.  He has an attorney, I do not.  I am looking for some discussion on what is an assement and how can I prepare.

 
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May 28, 2007, 6:52 pm PDT

Parenting Time Issues

 I am hoping that someone will have some advice for us. My granddaughter is 5 years old and currently lives with her mother. (who is my daughter) My daughter was never married to my granddaughters father. We have been to court about 8 times for visitation issues, preschool, daycare etc. Our problem is that the father will never try and work things out and always wants to settle things in court. Both parents do not seem to get along very well and to make matters worse he got married 2 years  ago and his wife is very controlling. The newest papers we recieved are that he wants my granddaughter to be with mom for 2 days a week and 5 days and nights with him. My daughter had just recently asked for a review of his child support and now has been served with these papers. My daughter has always had primary residental and he gets about 108 overnights a year. One of the problem s are that my granddaughter does not like spending the night and just wants to visit. We ask her why she does not want to stay and she says she does not like too. Another issue is the new stepmom. She is very controlling and thinks that she should have a say in any and all decisions concerning my grandaughter. How much say does she really have? We know that she has physically spanked and left bruises on my granddaughter and feels that she is the mom when she is in their home. Dad seems to agree with his wife.  My grandaughter has to call her mom in their home and presence. Does anyone know how judges seem to determine a change of parenting time?  What things do they consider? If anyone has any suggestions please let us know. The father refuses to go to mediation and we really cannot afford an attorney. The fathers family are the ones paying for thier son to continue taking my daughter back to court. Please Dr. Phil we need a show on what should be accomplished during amediation and if step parents have any rights. I really believe that this family will continue to take my daughter to court until they win full custody. My daughter is a very good mother and will continue to fight for her daughter. Wouldn't they have to prove that she is unfit to get custody? If anyone has any advice or answers let us know
 
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