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(Original Air Date: 04/03/06) Marri and Jessica both want to confront their mothers, who they say were neglectful and abusive during their childhoods. Marri has put up with her mother, Marilyn's, addiction to crack cocaine for 18 years, and she's ready to shut her mom out of her life for good if she doesn't admit she has a problem and seek help for it. Marilyn says her drug use is the solution, not the problem, and she can be a good mother and still smoke crack. Then, Jessica says she had to care for herself when she was a little girl. Her mother, Deana, was never around, and when she was, she was bringing strange men home for sex. In a ploy for attention, Deana committed her daughter to a mental institution -- three times! Tired of holding in her anger, Jessica demands her mother take responsibility for what she's done. Will these daughters get some emotional closure on their painful childhoods? Share your thoughts here.

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April 3, 2006, 4:04 pm PDT

Mommy Dearest

  

As I listen to Marri's story I couldn't stop crying. I use crack for 2 years 14 years ago. I stopped when I found out I was pregnant . I also went into treatment after my son was born. I knew I had a challenging life ahead of me and wanted to be strong. I've been clean for 14 years. 

  

Marri's needs to love herself and move on and know that this is not your fault, you have a fiance', your beautiful, you have a  beautiful baby, don't let your mom bring you down, you have a lot going for you. 

There are two types of crack smokers: Addict- some will tell you that all they wanna do is smoke crack you can't help them. The other is the smoker that wants to stop but needs a little support. Marri's mother is so far into the drug her mind doesn't even function  correctly, all she wants to do is get HIGH I bet if Dr. Phil had some crack in his hand she would want it. Shes to old to be smoking crack by now I would think she'd figured out the crack.  

  

  

  

  

 
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April 3, 2006, 4:04 pm PDT

Addiction

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To say your way of thinking is kind of out there is putting it midly.  How can Marri have a good life when: 

  

1.)  Her mother is a crack head and ADMITS she was 

2.)  Child was home alone many times - This is the mothers JOB to make sure her children are fed, have a roof over their head, are loved and are SAFE 

3.)  Her brother has a record of jail time, drugs, etc. 

  

There is no law that states you should love the human who gave you life.  Any female body can give life, but that does NOT make you a mother.  It is everyone's business when the mother's behavior, habits or lifestyle AFFECTS the other lives she is responsible for.   

  

Marri's mother CHOOSES to take the crack.  The mother you described in your post as taking a "prescribed" drug for a mental disease and sits on a couch all day, did not CHOOSE to be afflicted with the disease.  Yes, I too, had a father who was bipolar with maniac depression, but I tried to understand it was a disease he did not want or ask for. 

  

We, the rest of the world are NOT GOING TO MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS.  We, care about the well being of children.  We will report people like Marilyn who mistreat their children.  We will testify against people like her.  We will ensure children of these types of parents are not allowed to parent innocent lives and to destroy more Marri's in the world. 

  

And just food for thought....WHY WHY WHY......do women like Marilyn lay down and have sexual intercourse and get pregnant when they know they really don't want to be bothered with the true sacrifices it takes to be a loving giving caring parent.  Get your tubes tied, use the depo shot, but QUIT HAVING BABIES!!!  It is obvious from her time on Dr Phil, Marilyn really has no use in the past, present or future for children or grandchildren.   

  

I commend Marri for what life she had growing up, to be this close to obtaining her master's.  How many children from the kind of home life she has had can say that???   

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

The person who wrote the message sticking up for the drug addicted mother probably does drugs as well.  He/she probably saw themself in Marilyn and feels the need to defend that behavior.  When you are addicted and it has such a strong hold on you, you feel like you can't survive without it, so you'll do or say anything to keep it.  I feel sad for people who are addicts.  Even though we all know that nothing good comes from drug use, people still continue to try it and once you're in, you're in.  It's like the song Hotel California by the Eagles, you can check out, but you can never leave.  I applaud those people that have been clean and sober for an extended period of time.  There is nothing harder than giving up drugs.  That's why I always tell my children, don't try it even once.  Why would you try something that's so addicting and people are always trying to stop?  I use this with cigarettes as well.  If you never try it, you'll never have to stop it.  Life is hard enough without adding to the problems. 
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:06 pm PDT

Marri

As a mother of children your age, I am proud of you! I was a single mother, love and am proud of my boys. As a black mother, I hurt for you. I want you to know, you should be proud of yourself.  God has his hand on you.
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:07 pm PDT

emotional abuse is never forgotten

 I am looking my seventieth birthday in the face. Daughters, listen to Dr. Phil.
No matter how brutally your mother raised you, once you are an adult, you have to be the master of your own destiny. It takes a l-o-n-g time and a l-o-t of effort, but eventually you begin to appreciate yourself and stop looking not only to your mother but to others as well for approval.
I have three wonderful children who make themselves and their parents very proud. One is a lawyer, the other a psychiatric nurse and our son is a journeyman plumber. I have tried all their lives to be as loving and devoted to my children as my grandparents were. I learned from my own mother how not to be a mother. So, Marri and Jessica, while you are still young, seek out your own mentors and forgive  the woman who gave you life but will never be able to feel the joy of successful parenting. Just imagine how awful her own life must be.
Finally, run, don't walk. I have to disagree with Dr. Phil on that one point. There comes a time you have to sever the umbilicum cord and find love by giving it to yourself and those who know what love is. Your mother will have to find her own bliss.
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:07 pm PDT

To Marri

Marri, I don't generally write to message boards, but I saw today's program and had to write. I've been in your shoes and I know how unfair and frustrating it is, but you absolutely must establish your personal boundaries and hold fast to them. Your mother will try every trick in the book to get you to pay attention to her, take care of her, feel sorry for her, and try to make you feel like you're a "bad" daughter because you're not complying with her wishes. Don't do it. A junkie is always a con--even when it's your mom. I let my mother demand my attention and energy for far too many years [she was hooked on codeine and then morphine] and I spent so much time trying to 'make it better' that I neglected my own hopes and dreams. Even with therapy, it took me forever to detach--and more importantly to believe that I had a right to my own life. You're young and you have a life ahead of you, so do what you love, be with your fiance, make a family with your children---and keep your mother as far out of your life as you can. When friends and family try to put a guilt trip on you, tell them you've made a decision to be a healthy and whole woman, and that doesn't include responding to the endless crises created by your mother. You and I both know that there's always another crisis around the corner. They'll never stop, believe me. I know you want her to change, and you probably think that there's something you can do to create that change, but there truly is nothing you can do. It's immensely painful to accept that, but I promise that it's better to accept it now than in 20 years. You didn't make her a junkie. No matter what sad sad tale she tells about how horrible her life was, she still made a choice to 'solve' her problems with crack. Your life has been a nightmare as a result of her addiction, but YOU didn't 'solve' your problems with drugs. Nor did I. So try to forgive her, but most of all, maintain your own boundaries and enjoy your life. You are not responsible for her poor decisions, her rotten temper, her vile language or her health problems. I wish you all the best. And remember that you are NOT alone in this painful situation. You will find 'comrades in arms' everywhere. Good luck. Colene
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:09 pm PDT

Almost Mommy Dearest daughter

I can't believe that there are others out there that had somewhat the same experiences that I had with my mother for years, while I was a teenager. She will not, to this day, acknowledge the fact that she did anything wrong when it came to raising me. I had 1 older brother and three younger. She always blames it on the fact that she didn't have the tools in order to raise me properly. She said because he mother didn't do certain things with her that that is why she didn't do them with me. I needed a mother. I searched for love in all the wrong places! I understand how Jessica feels towards her mother searching for herself and not taking care of the kids. I changed that when I became a young mother at 18. I love my two boys and would do anything to take care of them. Even divorce their father if he became abusive to them. I love them unconditionally!!
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:10 pm PDT

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This show was so heartbreaking and I just cried and cried. I can't stand to see mothers not acting like mothers. My mother suffered too and she had painful things from her past to deal with, but if anything, those experiences drove her to be a great mother to me and my little brother. Because of her I have always wanted to be a mother and when I do become one I will not treat my children that way.
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

Mothers Can Kill a Child with Abuse

I am a first timer so sharing this is timely as I am working on Authentic Self to leave my past behind.  So extremely difficult when you have a living mother who enjoyed abusing the kids and I felt I was overly subjected to the physical abuse & mental torturing she dished out.  I could only rationalize her unusual behaviour later in life when my mind said she must have been insane to treat kids this way.  She took no drugs no booze she just plain did not want to raise the kids and she was angry, hostile, abusive to us.  I was the third daughter that always seemed to be the one blamed for everything. I don't know about other kids but to become sane and leave the abnormalcy I cut off all contact with my mother & the rest of the family.   My scars are not on the outside but I feel them every day.  Growing up alone with no one for connection is a very lonely walk.  In "Self Matters" one of those significant moments was asking a school counsellor for help in talking to my parents and getting the worst beating of my life because I reached out.  You learn to hide and swallow pain with every breath.  Dr. Phil could never help "cure" or fix this broken heart - some legacies are best left buried deep.
 
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April 3, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

04/03 Mommy Dearest

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I've struggled desperately with my mother's and I relationship.  I completely empathize with the daughters on the show, and feel so heartbroken over their situations yet am glad to see I am not alone.  My mother was physically and emotionally abusive, beating me weekly and calling me a whore at age 10 (long before I was sexually active), and to this day denies it all.  I've become such a disappointment to her, she even denies me as a daughter and never tells me she loves me.  I believe personally that I am successful for the most part, having earned advanced degrees and being financially independent and socially well accepted.  Most of my girlfriends have healthy relationships with their mother, so it is isolating and difficult to heal from the pain of having such a traumatic childhood.  Our relationship in my late 20's has completely degenerated.  She refuses to speak to me whatsoever, and we haven't spoken for over a year.  Even worse, I am expecting my first child soon.  I am reaching out in this blog for some advice.  How do you heal such deep childhood scars when the other party will never participate in the process?  Thanks for responding. 

My own mentally ill, abusive mother died when I was 17, so obviously she can't take any part in my healing.  I don't think she would admit it either.  She would say I was lying, that "THEY" told her I was making up stories, which happened a lot in my childhood.   She used to tell me that I was flaunting myself, literally pushing me toward my sexually abusive father, then punishing me for being a whore.   

  

Expecting a child is wonderful, not "even worse", as you say.  We both have examples of how not to be mothers, and I bet you will cherish your child.  I healed, mostly, by seeing a psychiatrist and talking about my nasty childhood, and by looking deeply into myself and getting rid of things I didn't like there.  Writing things out helped me a lot, too. 

 
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April 3, 2006, 4:16 pm PDT

To Marri

Marri, I want to encourage you because like you I have a Mom who  has not been there for me emotionally my entire life.  I have been faced with many aspect of  rejection in my life.  I recently made major decisions pertaining to my life deciding to take charge.  In the process the biggest think I've learned which has helped me tremendously is realizing that I am not a victim, I am a victor.  MARRI YOU ARE A VICTOR, NOT A VICTIM you have made it despite your childhood.  You are changing the legacy of your family.  Be proud of yourself for what you have accomplished.  You are a powerful, strong, resilient young woman.  

  

Please be encourage and recognize who you have become, stand tall and be your biggest cheerleader. 

  

Darlene 

Georgia 

 
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