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Topic : 04/07 Social Taboos: Is This Normal?

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Admit it, you've judged people for doing things you considered inappropriate and abnormal in public. Meet Margaret, a stay-at-home mom who's tired of everyone thinking sex is taboo. She says she absolutely loves sex and she'll talk about it anytime, anywhere ... and with all of her kids. This includes showing them her sex toys, her sex swing and her X-rated Web site! But that's not all. Margaret is in a relationship with another woman, Jen, and Jen's husband. Now that she's pregnant, both women say they plan on breastfeeding the baby. Then, meet a husband who sometimes uses the F word six times in one sentence! Plus, meet three kids who think their mom dresses too sexy, and follow a woman's quest to change people's behavior in the grocery store, one shopper at a time. Join the discussion.

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April 7, 2006, 9:21 am PDT

04/07 Social Taboos: Is This Normal?

this is about the mom with the three kids that think she is to old. hey kids mom is not to old i have a 19 year old that want me to dress cool like wearing hip huggers and stuff even tho i told him im to heavy for those kinda closes but then again my kids and thier friends think i am cool mom. but kids your friends might think differntly after they meet your mom so you might want to do things a litttle diffent and just live with it
 
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April 7, 2006, 9:22 am PDT

Lady, you are sick too.

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FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY!!!!   

My mother never taught me about sex.  Her explanation of french kissing was 'the male inserts his tongue into the female's mouth and they exchange saliva'.  When I said that was gross and asked if Daddy ever did that to her, she turned all shades of red and said "Well, yes, but only on special ocassions."  I knew asking about oral sex was ABSOLUTELY out of the question.   

  

At 16, I used birth control to the best of my knowledge.  If I had sex, we used a condom.  If we wanted to do it again, we turned it inside out and used the other side - because there was spermicide on both sides - right?  I stole a pack of birth control pills from a lady I babysat for and if we were going to have sex, I'd take one.  When I got pregnant, I wouldn't let him touch me because I didn't want to have twins.  I knew if we continued to do it, I would have a full litter just like my dogs and guinea pigs - who were always doing it.  Funny but very sadly true. 

  

When my daughter was 5, a neighbor had aC section.  She came home hysterical and told me to call Aunt Maggie and tell her not to have her baby - the doctors were going to cut her stomach open and rip the baby out.  After calming her down, I told her there was a special place babies come out - its called a vagina, and all girls have one.  She wanted to see it, so I put her in the tub and showed it to her.   

  

Through the years, I have had a comfortable open relationship with my kids regarding sex.  My 17 year old son asked me what PMS was and if girls liked their nipples played with like his dog did, and we could talk about those things.  My daughter felt comfortable enough to say she wanted to be on birth control.  They brought their friends home to talk because they couldn't talk to their parents.  I ALWAYS had parents encourage it because they were too embarrased.  Why? Sex is nothing to be ashamed of - we all do it but no one can talk about it.  It's crazy. 

  

I was not nearly as open or graphic with my kids as these too ladies were, but I don't see anything wrong with it.  They're not involved in the sexual practices or allow them to watch 'Mommy in th swing'.  The body is natural and nudity in the home breeds acceptance of body image.  You are comparing apples and oranges when you talk about their web site.  That's an extra-curricular activity that they do in addition to their home life.  Their kids are not on the site and showing it to the 14 year old who is old enough to understand takes away the curiosity.  I applaud them for the limited use allowed on the computer.  I trust they are monitoring where they go when they are on it.   

  

As for my children?  They are now 30 and 27.  They adopted good and important principles.  My daughter got through her teen years pregnancy free.  My son was a virgin when he got married to a wonderful girl he dated for 6 years.  He is college educated and an ordained minister at a baptist church (oh, did I forget to say they were raised in the church?).  They have two wonderful children  

  

Do I think the Moms are extreme?  Yes.  Do I think they go over the line - yeah, probably.  I could not share my partner with someone else in my home, but if it works for them, who am I to disagree.  Breastfeeding by two moms might actually be a convenience so they don't have to be tied to the baby 24/7.  But it is their life and they are teaching the kids things they will learn about anyway.  I didn't hear anything perverted or even illegal if you ask me.  I didn't hear Dr. Phil bring up one bit of evidence that the children are not happy, healthy and well-adjusted.  He always does his research in those areas, so they must be doing something right.  Unfortunately, our society is so judgemental, that they won't think to look at that.  They will only look at how these people choose to live their private lives in their own home.   

  

Thank you Dr. Phil for bringing this topic to light. 

You can't see the forest for the trees. 
 
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April 7, 2006, 9:32 am PDT

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FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY!!!!   

My mother never taught me about sex.  Her explanation of french kissing was 'the male inserts his tongue into the female's mouth and they exchange saliva'.  When I said that was gross and asked if Daddy ever did that to her, she turned all shades of red and said "Well, yes, but only on special ocassions."  I knew asking about oral sex was ABSOLUTELY out of the question.   

  

At 16, I used birth control to the best of my knowledge.  If I had sex, we used a condom.  If we wanted to do it again, we turned it inside out and used the other side - because there was spermicide on both sides - right?  I stole a pack of birth control pills from a lady I babysat for and if we were going to have sex, I'd take one.  When I got pregnant, I wouldn't let him touch me because I didn't want to have twins.  I knew if we continued to do it, I would have a full litter just like my dogs and guinea pigs - who were always doing it.  Funny but very sadly true. 

  

When my daughter was 5, a neighbor had aC section.  She came home hysterical and told me to call Aunt Maggie and tell her not to have her baby - the doctors were going to cut her stomach open and rip the baby out.  After calming her down, I told her there was a special place babies come out - its called a vagina, and all girls have one.  She wanted to see it, so I put her in the tub and showed it to her.   

  

Through the years, I have had a comfortable open relationship with my kids regarding sex.  My 17 year old son asked me what PMS was and if girls liked their nipples played with like his dog did, and we could talk about those things.  My daughter felt comfortable enough to say she wanted to be on birth control.  They brought their friends home to talk because they couldn't talk to their parents.  I ALWAYS had parents encourage it because they were too embarrased.  Why? Sex is nothing to be ashamed of - we all do it but no one can talk about it.  It's crazy. 

  

I was not nearly as open or graphic with my kids as these too ladies were, but I don't see anything wrong with it.  They're not involved in the sexual practices or allow them to watch 'Mommy in th swing'.  The body is natural and nudity in the home breeds acceptance of body image.  You are comparing apples and oranges when you talk about their web site.  That's an extra-curricular activity that they do in addition to their home life.  Their kids are not on the site and showing it to the 14 year old who is old enough to understand takes away the curiosity.  I applaud them for the limited use allowed on the computer.  I trust they are monitoring where they go when they are on it.   

  

As for my children?  They are now 30 and 27.  They adopted good and important principles.  My daughter got through her teen years pregnancy free.  My son was a virgin when he got married to a wonderful girl he dated for 6 years.  He is college educated and an ordained minister at a baptist church (oh, did I forget to say they were raised in the church?).  They have two wonderful children  

  

Do I think the Moms are extreme?  Yes.  Do I think they go over the line - yeah, probably.  I could not share my partner with someone else in my home, but if it works for them, who am I to disagree.  Breastfeeding by two moms might actually be a convenience so they don't have to be tied to the baby 24/7.  But it is their life and they are teaching the kids things they will learn about anyway.  I didn't hear anything perverted or even illegal if you ask me.  I didn't hear Dr. Phil bring up one bit of evidence that the children are not happy, healthy and well-adjusted.  He always does his research in those areas, so they must be doing something right.  Unfortunately, our society is so judgemental, that they won't think to look at that.  They will only look at how these people choose to live their private lives in their own home.   

  

Thank you Dr. Phil for bringing this topic to light. 

there's a difference in teaching kids about sex and demonstrating it for them. This mother needs to keep her sex life out of the reach of her young children, they have no business playing with sex toys. I will be teaching my children everything they need to know about sex for it is a beautiful experience that is to be shared with a spouse and it does not have to be shared with every one in the household.
 
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April 7, 2006, 9:37 am PDT

Who cares about the divider thing

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I am not sure where this women is from, but where I am from it is kinda a unspoken social rule that the person that comes in line after you is the one that puts the bar between orders. I always put a bar in front of my order but never behind. I feel that is not my place. I have never had a problem with this and thank goodness. If someone added something to my stuff all heck would break loose. How dare she do that. What if that family needed that extra $5 to pay for gas. How would she feel if it was her gas money to work that someone else made her spend. I can understand being mad about something(although I think it is a little crazy) but she doesn't have the right. 

  

  

I think this is one of the pettiest subjects that I have ever heard of, some one just put hte thing down, who cares who does it? I have done it beofre and after my order, heck there have been times when I never put the divider down, depends on how much stuff I have. Never even gave the thing a thought til now, O, the things people argue about. Like, I tell my girls, and have even told hubby, if you are gonna fight and argue, at least find something worth the time and effort LOLLLLL.
 
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April 7, 2006, 9:39 am PDT

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I've always been concerned when people go into a store, and they decide to open up a package of cookies or a candy bar, eat it while they shop, then present the empty wrapper at the checkout! Is this considered shoplifting? If I was a manager and saw this happen in my store, I'd have to address a shoplifting issue with that customer! What does anyone else think about this?
I have done this with a box of cookies while waiting in a long line, what's the big deal, I am paying for the stuff. I would never do it with things that have to be weighed or messy like a candy bar, but a box of cookies or crackers, no big deal for me.
 
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April 7, 2006, 9:47 am PDT

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Margarette, you do not have a problem showing your children porn??????? this is what you are doing, please stop, it WILL ruin your children, in many ways, this is not the way to teach your children about sex.............
 
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April 7, 2006, 10:04 am PDT

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 I too am absolutely appalled that Margaret exposes these poor innocent children to something that only an adult can truly understand. Never once did I hear her mention the word love and its meaning nor risks of STD and AIDS...what about teaching abstinence to her 14 year old until she finds a partner for life?  Children this age should be worried about school, friends and clothes not their mother causing school ridicule by  saying this child masturbates. And just for her information, there are numerous other ways to relieve stress. Here is a possibility...maybe they wouldn't be so stressed if they didn't have such unnecessary mature exposure.  

  

  

"BRAVO CCC WILLSNO BRAVO" 

 
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April 7, 2006, 10:07 am PDT

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I REALIZE ALL TO WELL AS AN SOCIETY AMERICANS ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE ABOUT SEX.  This is just damaging your children, and giving them warped ideas about sex.  I am for being truthful about sex, drugs, and smoking to children, but it must be age appropriate for the child.  I have 2 children and fully intend to give them the necessary talks and the appropriate age.  I've already had to answer questions about sex , drugs, and smoking to my 7 year old son.  I told him what he wanted to know that was appropriate for his age.   

THIS BRUTAL HONESTY WILL DAMAGE AND GIVE THE CHILDREN the wrong ideas about sex.  What your doing is completely warped and sick.  These children are going to suffer for your rebellious attitude towards the way you were raised.  This is not the radical way to teach sex to your children.  This is sick, demented, and twisted !!!!! 

 
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April 7, 2006, 10:12 am PDT

Dr. Phil: re: Margaret

I just posted a message asking you to please have those children removed from the home.  I was so shocked by how the children were being forced to live that I really wasn't thinking about their mother.  Now that I am, can you have her arrested?  Making her daughter walk around the house 2 hours nude for punishment?  Surely, that must fall under the heading of some type of abuse.
 

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April 7, 2006, 10:12 am PDT

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I've always been concerned when people go into a store, and they decide to open up a package of cookies or a candy bar, eat it while they shop, then present the empty wrapper at the checkout! Is this considered shoplifting? If I was a manager and saw this happen in my store, I'd have to address a shoplifting issue with that customer! What does anyone else think about this?
Most stores in most states (from my understanding) is that you aren't shoplifting until you leave the store with the item.

It's not something that *I* would personally do...I kind of find it in bad taste myself...but they aren't stealing.
 
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