Topic : 04/07 Social Taboos: Is This Normal?

i usually leave public restrooms cleaner than when i arrived simply because i must clean it before i can even use it. women are MUCH grosser than guys as far as missing the seat and leaving their "napkins" on the floor, walls, and wherever else they feel like. a few thankless jobs during college had me cleaning restrooms. i volunteered to take care of the men's room over the "ladies'" simply for my sanity. let's not even touch the people who don't wash their hands after using the facilities! Ha!

I just finished watching the show with the polyamorous family and I am a very disturbed.  Although I am a firm believer that to each his own, I also believe some things are best kept private.  Whether you are gay, straight, bisexual, whatever, I do not want or need details of your sex life, nor would I share mine.  I do not want to see any kind of couple in that degree of intimacy or hear that many details.  That being said, I do not understand why they came on the show.  They both appeared  very defensive and obviously did not want feedback....it was almost like they wanted to advertise their lifestyle. It concerns me that they involve their children, at all ages.  To tell a teenager's friends that she is masturbating so she can spend the next day getting ridiculed at school is very emotionally abusive on the mothers part.  To leave out sex toys, to let the 14 have access to their sex pictures and their website, and to punish children by making them walk around naked at an age when they are very self concious is almost perverse.  There are parents who take cute innocent pictures of their children in the tub and an overreactive photo clerk calls the police and they actually get investigated by family services, so why is no one stepping in for these children?  And the fact they were so blatant that they did not care if you reported them, really disturbed me.  It appears that they have some emotional issues that they have not resolved and they are acting out by flaunting this nonsense under everyone's noses....as Dr. Phil said, almost like she has a chip on her shoulder from how she was raised.  My brother's ex girlfriend grew up in a similar environment and was forced to watch pornography, they have pictures of her playing with sex toys as a young child that they think are funny and they had orgies at their house all the time.  It was always sex, sex, sex.  Unfortunately, she has so many issues from that upbringing that she has been overtly sexually active, very focused on sexuality but never learned about emotional, spiritual, or commitment issues.  She has no idea how to handle relationships except for sex.  It has caused so many problems that they are no longer together, and she lost custody of their child.  I do not care what those parents do, but I truly hope someone steps in for those children because while the parents are busy posting pictures of their butts on the internet, they are not giving their children the important life skills they need to have healthy adult relationships.  Those parents must realize that their polyamorous lifestyle is their choice, not their childrens, and the kids should not have it stuffed down their throats.  The parents crossed the "education" line a long time ago and now it is just for their benefits and egos. I hope someone intervenes before it is too late.

I have never seen anything on the Dr. Phil show quite as nasty as Margaret and her  "love triangle" and the involvement of her children in her love/sex life.   If I knew where she was from I would absolutely call CPS.  She is absolutely disgusting.  I feel very sorry for her children, especially the baby on the way.

I thought I posted a message here the day after I saw the show but I can't find it.  Now that I am reading the posts I see that everything I wanted to say has been said so I will just add this.  Why are the people who should definitely keep their clothes on the first to take them off? 

  

  

 It would be nice if everyone used the bar in the grocery store....and wiped the seat if they messed it up because they're too good to sit on it....and didn't leave the sink a big mess. If more of these people had to clean those restrooms they wouldn't leave them a mess. I agree with the woman on the show Friday. Why should I have to tell the check out girl where that guys order ends and mine starts. He should have put the bar up there in the first place, but then there are people like me who use it twice, once before my order and once after my order. Double dipper in Michigan!!!

I don't agree-I think we all should put the barrier in front of our orders not behind but I really couldn't care less about it.  If it needs to be put down, I'll do it whether in front or behind. 

  

However, that woman thinks that the person in front of her should put down the barrier and if they don't she adds things into their order like batteries and such that can be found near the checkout. That is wa-a-a-ay worse behaviour than missing the barrier. 

I guess it's just customary here to place the bar when it is needed.  If someone else has their items on the belt when I walk up, I take the courtesy of putting the bar down so that my items don't get mixed up with theirs.  I don't want them to get my items and so it's my responsibility, not theirs.  

  

To be honest, I guess the lady has a point.  But really, I have never even thought about it.  Maybe it's just the way people do things down here in the south, but I've never experienced anyone putting down the bar after their items.  I always felt it was my job to put the bar down myself before I place my items on the belt.   

  

Most of the time, my full grocery cart fills up the length of the belt, and while the cashier is finishing up with the person in front of me, I am loading the belt and waiting for them to finish.  My items will be to the end of the belt (and maybe even noone behind me).  When the customer is finished in front of me.  I move forward and am up at the front end of the counter loading my items in my cart and preparing my check or cash to pay.  I never look back to the end of the belt again. 

  

I can't say anything more about this family that hasn't been said.  The whole situation disgusts me and I am very conderned.   

  

Can someone  tell us if this is kind of sutiation is something that will be investigated by CPS?? What can be done?? 

  

I would really like to know what happens.  I just hope she doesn't live close to me. I know it's not the kids fault, but I'd hate to know that any of her children go to school with mine.  God forbid they were to want to date one of my teenagers one day!! 

There is nothing wrong with letting your children know it is ok to masterebate if the situtation arise.  But tell your children to go masterbate!!!! That is a whole different ball game. If your child has questions anwser them but do not tell your children to go masterbate.  Because they are ill or stressed or whatever. You let them know that it is ok. But to be private about it. Not everyone wants to see or hear about it. It is a private thing for most people. And I mean get real this goes far beyond talking to your kids about sex. You explain to me how the young child needed  to know about sex toys, Swings, etc. Or to see  nude photos of mom. Thats just plain nasty.I am 30 yrs old and have no desire to see my parents naked. This takes educating your children about sex way out of context. I suppose letting your children sit around watch porn or look at porn on the net is just sex ed right. I think not!!! And letting your children know it is ok to have sex. No it is not ok for children to have sex. The youngs child was what 3 so it is ok for this 3 yr old to have sex. Are you kidding me or the 12 year old for that matter. So when they are molested they think that is ok.  How do they know the difference they are children. Are you the mother on the show or the girlfriend?