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(Original Air Date: 04/10/06) Are you and your spouse caught in a never-ending battle over who's right? DrPhil.com users wrote in about the biggest problems in their relationships. Heather says her biological clock is a ticking time bomb, but her husband, Steve, says they aren't ready for a baby. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, Roberta has been trying to get her husband to work on their relationship by reading one of Dr. Phil's books, but he refuses. Will he have an excuse after the show? And, Rita is asking her husband, Jeff, "Where's the romance?" Jeff says after eight years of marriage, he shouldn't have to wine and dine his wife. Will they meet in the middle? Plus, should a husband have to give up his testosterone toy, and how do you decide how big your wedding should be? Dr. Phil steps in to decide who's right once and for all. Talk about the show here.

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April 10, 2006, 2:22 pm PDT

I Concur

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I was surprised that Dr. Phil agreed that the couple on the show should spend $10-$12,000 for a wedding, I think that is crazy! I kept waiting for him to say the word "compromise" but he never did. Our divorce rate in America is 50%.. people should spend more time and energy creating a healthy foundation for their marriage instead of fussing over the actual event of a wedding. I understand that this ritual is important for the husband, but they could trim it down to $5,000 and still have the day be special. The bottom line is that this should be for them, the bride and groom, not to impress anyone or to "top" anyone else's wedding.

So was I (surprised). I, too, think that spending on weddings has gone overboard...perhaps $10K is insignificant to Dr. Phil, but it isn't to a lot of folks. Small wonder that people are in debt up to their eyeballs, wanting to recreate what they see of celebrity weddings on "Entertainment Tonight" or in the tabloids. One thing that did not get brought up in the slide show was exactly who was going to finance his grandiose party. Was the bridegroom-elect going to foot the bill, or was she or her family going to be expected to do it?  

  These two need to ask themselves "What is important to us in terms of marking the start of our life together? What will make this day unforgettable to us?" It's very likely that these two will come to a workable compromise and come up with a paln that will be truly theirs. If it costs under $10K, Ok; if that or a little more, that's ok, too. 

 
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April 10, 2006, 2:24 pm PDT

biological clock ticking?

I agree with Heather , If I had to do it all over again I'd have had my kids before I got married. 

After I was Married like Steve my husband didn't want kids til we were financially secure 

so we waited 3 years had a baby girl. Then he said no more til shes out of diapers well then it was another 3 years  well looks like she will be an only child because we tried for 2 yrs before the 3 yrs on fertility drugs now I've given up he got his wish.  So Heather go for it!!!!! 

 
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April 10, 2006, 2:24 pm PDT

Settle This

My partner and I have been dating a little over 7 months. My problem with him is that he has a hard time saying "thank you" when something is done for him . When I mentioned this to him, he got defensive and  tells me that I know that he appreciates me. I was shocked that he responded like that .I said to him  how would I know that if you can't even say thank you. I know he has manners because he comes from a good family background. It's like he expects people to do things for him.  I really care for him, but this drives me crazy. What is your take on this and please can you offer some suggestions.     Thank you kindly 
 
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April 10, 2006, 2:34 pm PDT

Jeep -

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There obviously has to be some compromise with the vehicle situation.  As a wife & a Jeep lover I can understand both sides. Ever thought about getting rid of the bike and keeping the Jeep?  Or how about a Jeep Cherokee - more room & family oriented (maybe automatic to accomodate her)?   Good Luck !! 

Matt Here: From the Show...

Yes we have actually looked into a Grand Cherokee.  There isn't a chance I will get rid of the bike... Rachelle wants a vehicle that is easier to drive, and can fit the whole family. I guess Dr. Phil put it best
"You need to sell one of those, get something that makes her happy, and then you're going to have a lot better ride in life,"...

-Matt-
 
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April 10, 2006, 2:35 pm PDT

Talk it out, get real

Heather and Steve, I hope you are doing as Dr. Phil suggested, making a plan and working the plan. Steve, if you really never intend to give up your sports to do "real" parenting then say so now. It is really crule to keep Heather hanging on and then tell her at age 40 that you really don't want children. Talk now. Decide now when you'll have the baby, how much money you plan to have saved by next year, how you plan to divide up the household chores and baby care chores. Also, it might be a good idea to talk about how you want to reise this child. How about private school? Is that something you might want? That takes money, too. How about discipline? How do you each stand on spanking? Do you agree? You know Dr. Phil says you need to be on the same page, from the beginning.   Please, talk it out and get real with each other, now.
 

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April 10, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

04/10 Settle This

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My girlfriend and me are both 33 years old and have been going out for almost 2 years. We met at work and have so much in common it's scary. 

  

My girlfriend and I love each other very much but we have had many problems. Since we have been going out for all that time she hasn't met my family other then recently meeting my Dad for 2 mins. When I first met her after 2 mths I invited her to go to my Birthday diner with my Dad and his girlfriend and she said that she wasn't ready to do this and would eventually. So I have been waiting since 2 mths into our relationship for her to go to dinner with me and 1 of my family members and despite all her promises it hasn't happened. 

  

She is extremely afraid of meeting my family and friends and this is creating problems in our relationship. 

  

Generally I have followed and respected he wishes with helping her deal with her anxiety by not talking about my family too much and not asking her to meet them.  But I feel like she is playing a game with me and manipulating me. She has promised me that she would meet them and that we would get married someday. But my hope is dwindling. Recently I have brought up to her how I want he to meet them but this creates our worst fights. 

  

On this Sunday her parents came by with a 2 min notice to my place and my dishes weren't clean and my shirt was off and my hair was messed up. I quickly threw things together. I wasn't prepared for them but I didn't mind if they came by because they were picking up our laundry and I like seeing them. 

  

Later that day, early evening, my girlfriend and I got into a fight when I brought up that my family could never come by on the fly like her family had that morning. In the past she would drive away or we would fight for the day and she would go home avoiding having to meet anyone I know and there would be sometimes days of drama over this. 

  

We always watch Dr. Phil and I have read several of his books and listened to some of his seminars and I have tried to do my part to change myself. But my girlfriend hasn't read the 2nd copy of the Relationship Rescue book I bought her. 1 copy for me 1 for her. We both have psychological degrees and backgrounds. 

  

I am kind of at a lose as to what to do because our fights get very bad where I bring up that I want her to meet my family and then this starts her into a barrage of insults, score keeping style attacks which sometimes leads to her hitting me. I avoid insulting her at all costs and never have pulled out the "big guns" nor, would I want to because I love her a lot, but after she has insulted me, my family and then said she will go to a hotel room and find someone to sleep with for the night that's where I loose it and force-ably try to remove her from my apartment. I never hit her and I try everything with her before that happens. I try walking away for an hour, I try talking to her and I walk away but eventually this is hard because its my apartment and it gets late and I just want to go to bed. 

  

What am I suppose to do? I want her to meet my family and have respected her wishes to not talk about he meeting my family for months at a time but I feel like after 2 years of going out with her that I really have a strong need to want her to meet my family. I really want to marry this women. We have both been in awful relationships where people cheated on us. I really have tried everything with her. Were at the point were we need outside help like a therapist etc. 

  

Should I not ask her to go out for a cup of coffle with my dad her and me or my mom her and me? Or should I keep up a dialogue with her about this knowing that it might lead to her kicking my ass and us fighting for days? What should I do? Do you guys have helpful suggestions for me? I want to stay with her and work it out but this is hard to deal with. 

  

She sounds abusive to me. Very abusive, she's hit you and threatened to cheat on you. I would never forcibly remove her from your home. You don't want to ever put your hands on her when you are angry. If she won't leave call the police and have them remove her. Better that then put yourself at risk of her saying you hurt her. If it ever gets physical it's time to step way back and get away from eachother no matter how late at night it is.

It's been two years and she still doesn't want to meet your family? What exactly are her reasons? I wasn't clear on that at all.

Therapy would be good if she's willing to go.

I am at a loss of what to say, I don't understand her reason for refusing to meet your family.
 

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April 10, 2006, 2:45 pm PDT

04/10 Settle This

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Marriage was easy, compared to having a child in the picture. Parenting is a whole other topic! Actually, I was surprised that he even cared to put in his two cents. I thought he would just say, "you're the mom, you're with her 98% of the time, you know what's best."  

  

He thought I was overprotective. And sometimes I thought he was crazy! He was tossing her in the air when she was 1 mo old. gave her sugary snacks when she was first starting to eat, milk and cheese when she was 8 mos old, and fed her nuts when she didn't have molars. I could go on. 

  

It drove me crazy, she is still alive and healthy. But this is what happened. At 5 months old he tossed her so high she hit her head on the ceiling fan, he never did it again. I gave him papers from doctors on why children should not have dairy until 12 months old, he stopped giving her dairy. Then she eventually choked on the nuts he gave her, she got it out on her own and threw up. After cleaning her up, he said he would never give it to her again. 

  

Well, at least we got it figured out on the first child, now the others can be normal! 

Maybe my husband and I are weird but we research EVERYTHING. When we got married we talked about parenting together several times a month for 5 years. When we started trying to have a baby we read everything about pregnancy together and when I got pregnant our talks about parenting got very deep and intense and we read everything we could on babies.

There was never any worry with me about my husband doing any of the things your husband did cause we did research.

Sometime I think I'm the odd one for learning about something before I do it.

My husband and I have had smooth sailing with our daughter, she will be 2 in a couple weeks. Not that I think it will always be easy but I think the fact that we built a foundation on facts, research, discussion and compromise will make our parenting of our daughter a lot easier.

I'm NOT putting you down cause I think MOST people learn as they go. And I did too, but it was more learning about my daughter specifically. We both knew not to give her nuts until she was old enough (and no peanuts until she is two) before she was even born.

Am I the weird one? LOL
 
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April 10, 2006, 2:48 pm PDT

04/10 Settle This

Quote From: volcomxox

Hey there, I'm pretty young, but I was wondering. I'm atheist but every girl dreams of her wedding day.  Are there any alternatives to having the big day without the religion?

My husband and I are not affiliated with any religion.  We had a beautiful outdoor wedding at a golf course in front of a gazebo with a stream and waterfall in the backround.  We were married by a judge and the ceremony took minutes instead of  "hours".  So there was plenty of time for the best part, the reception.  LOL   

Both our families have very religious members in them but we were not going to give "grandma" the wedding of her dreams this was our day.   

Any way when you are ready and you have that special someone by your side, they and you will find that it is easy to have a dream wedding no matter what your beliefs.  

 
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April 10, 2006, 2:51 pm PDT

She needs professional help for her anxiety

Quote From: tarzantaz

My girlfriend and me are both 33 years old and have been going out for almost 2 years. We met at work and have so much in common it's scary. 

  

My girlfriend and I love each other very much but we have had many problems. Since we have been going out for all that time she hasn't met my family other then recently meeting my Dad for 2 mins. When I first met her after 2 mths I invited her to go to my Birthday diner with my Dad and his girlfriend and she said that she wasn't ready to do this and would eventually. So I have been waiting since 2 mths into our relationship for her to go to dinner with me and 1 of my family members and despite all her promises it hasn't happened. 

  

She is extremely afraid of meeting my family and friends and this is creating problems in our relationship. 

  

Generally I have followed and respected he wishes with helping her deal with her anxiety by not talking about my family too much and not asking her to meet them.  But I feel like she is playing a game with me and manipulating me. She has promised me that she would meet them and that we would get married someday. But my hope is dwindling. Recently I have brought up to her how I want he to meet them but this creates our worst fights. 

  

On this Sunday her parents came by with a 2 min notice to my place and my dishes weren't clean and my shirt was off and my hair was messed up. I quickly threw things together. I wasn't prepared for them but I didn't mind if they came by because they were picking up our laundry and I like seeing them. 

  

Later that day, early evening, my girlfriend and I got into a fight when I brought up that my family could never come by on the fly like her family had that morning. In the past she would drive away or we would fight for the day and she would go home avoiding having to meet anyone I know and there would be sometimes days of drama over this. 

  

We always watch Dr. Phil and I have read several of his books and listened to some of his seminars and I have tried to do my part to change myself. But my girlfriend hasn't read the 2nd copy of the Relationship Rescue book I bought her. 1 copy for me 1 for her. We both have psychological degrees and backgrounds. 

  

I am kind of at a lose as to what to do because our fights get very bad where I bring up that I want her to meet my family and then this starts her into a barrage of insults, score keeping style attacks which sometimes leads to her hitting me. I avoid insulting her at all costs and never have pulled out the "big guns" nor, would I want to because I love her a lot, but after she has insulted me, my family and then said she will go to a hotel room and find someone to sleep with for the night that's where I loose it and force-ably try to remove her from my apartment. I never hit her and I try everything with her before that happens. I try walking away for an hour, I try talking to her and I walk away but eventually this is hard because its my apartment and it gets late and I just want to go to bed. 

  

What am I suppose to do? I want her to meet my family and have respected her wishes to not talk about he meeting my family for months at a time but I feel like after 2 years of going out with her that I really have a strong need to want her to meet my family. I really want to marry this women. We have both been in awful relationships where people cheated on us. I really have tried everything with her. Were at the point were we need outside help like a therapist etc. 

  

Should I not ask her to go out for a cup of coffle with my dad her and me or my mom her and me? Or should I keep up a dialogue with her about this knowing that it might lead to her kicking my ass and us fighting for days? What should I do? Do you guys have helpful suggestions for me? I want to stay with her and work it out but this is hard to deal with. 

  

It seems to me like your girlfriend has major control issues, among other things.  This is really common in people with anxiety since their anxiety makes them feel so out of control. 

  

Have you tried in a safe, non-demanding way to ask her to help you understand her feelings about not wanting to meet your family?  If she can't verbalize those feelings and just makes more excuses I would hope you could convince her to try talking to a therapist.  This sounds like one of those arguments where what you are arguing about isn't really the problem. 

  

Have her parents been able to offer you any insight into her behavior?  Does she have any real reason to be so gun-shy?  In her mind she obviously does, but are her reasons at all valid?  If not, she may need to be evaluated for social anxiety disorder.   

  

Instead of driving yourself crazy trying to figure this all out by yourself, get a professional opinion.  Do it today - you have already spent TWO YEARS like this.  I would quit trying to push the issue of her meeting your family and instead concentrate on getting her to a therapist ASAP.  Good luck! 

 

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April 10, 2006, 2:52 pm PDT

04/10 Settle This

Quote From: volcomxox

Hey there, I'm pretty young, but I was wondering. I'm atheist but every girl dreams of her wedding day.  Are there any alternatives to having the big day without the religion?
I'm also an atheist...athough I'm very pragmantic and I find weddings to be a supreme waste of money and time and stress...LOL

But a wedding is a celebration of a commitment and you do not need god to do that. A wedding is a party that surrounds government documents basically.

Do what you want! Have a party! Wear a beautiful dress and have everyone look at you! LOL if that is your thing then you do it!

Marriage and weddings are not religious things...they CAN be but since the government is giving you the licence it is not forced to be a religious thing, that is unconstitutional. Religions just tend to combine the legal marriage along with thier personal religious beliefs of marriage.
 
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