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How long does it take to know if you’ve found your soul mate? Years? Months? Weeks? Or could you know in only a few days? Just two weeks after their first date, Katie and Erik walked down the aisle. Did Katie get married so fast just to beat her sister to the altar? And is Erik everything he says he is? Find out what Dr. Phil learned about him through a background check. Then, Lance and Stacia knew each other only three months before marrying. Lance says that simply wasn’t long enough and so, within their first year of marriage, he had five affairs. Now, they are headed for divorce because they say they don’t really know each other. Can this marriage be saved? Next, Darcy is 51 and has been engaged seven times. At one point she was engaged to two men at the same time! Will she ever find love? Plus, Sandra has been engaged six times and married four – and she's barely 30 years old! Dr. Phil shows these guests – and you – how to Love Smart before rushing to the altar. Talk about the show here.

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April 13, 2006, 1:02 pm PDT

04/13 Engaged Too Soon!

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Studies show that people who live together first actually have a higher divorce rate than people who don't live together first- kind of surprising don't you think? I thought so at first, but then I really thought about it, and it makes sense. When two people live together, often times there is this fantasy that once the wedding is over, their partner will 'magicaly' change into the perfect husband/wife. And then, that doesn't happen. What happens is that life goes right back to the way it was before the wedding. 

Anyone considering getting married after only a few months/weeks together, slow down! What is the rush!? I think that most of us want to find that partner to be with forever, but its best to go slow and steady instead of fast and furious like that first couple on the show. 

I think the difference is the difference between people who choose to only cohabit once they marry and those who are more casual about cohabitation. Most of the people I know who have been successfully married did not cohabit with anyone but the person they married.  The people I know who lived together with someone and then married didn't marry the first person they lived with.

 
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April 13, 2006, 1:11 pm PDT

Book smart

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My husband, of 5 years, and I got married after knowing one another for 10 months. I believe that there is something to say about love at first sight. There are going to be people who don't believe in that at all, but it's their opinion. We are happily married, and work to make our marriage work. You don't get married and expect things to "just work out".No, it's doesn't work that way. If you need a book to tell you how to be married, you shouldn't be married. Marriage is a partnership, give and take, if you are too selfish, marriage isn't for you. You shouldn't have to read a book to find that out.
I don't know if there are actually books that tell you how to be married, but there are self-help books on the market to help couples create and maintain healthy relationships and MILLIONS of people buy those books.
 
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April 13, 2006, 1:25 pm PDT

Engaged the next day

I met my husband on his 21st birthday.  We had one date and just knew we were going to stay together.  I had to go out of town for a couple of days and the day I returned we picked a date and got engaged.  We were married a short time later and it has been 10 years together with a beautiful baby girl who just turned 2.  The first year was the hardest, getting to know eachother and finding out how to live with another person.  We almost didn't make it but at the end of the day, despite everything we wanted to be with eachother more than anything else.  Time went on and things only got better.  We just have to remember that marriage is work.  You have to be considerate of someone else's opinions and feelings.  It isn't about just you any more.  Of all of our friend we are the only couple still together and doing well.  Couples we know that dated for years, were engaged for years ended those marriages in just a couple of years.  It's like they ran out of things to talk about.  It is 10 years later and I am still learning things about my husband that I didn't know and that is half the fun.  In my opinion it doesn't matter how long you have been in a relationship it matter how much you put into that relationship.
 
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April 13, 2006, 1:25 pm PDT

some times it works

To make a long story short...my husband and I had our first date at the beginning of June, he left town for 2 weeks the next day, the day he got back we had our second date, he moved in with me 5 days later and the following weekend he proposed.  I said "yes" and we were married 4 months later.  We've had our ups and down as all couples do but on Nov 5 this year we will have been married for 27 year.  I knew from the moment his hand touched mine, before our first date that if I didn't marry him I would never marry.  I was 25 and he was 32 we had both been married once before.  I'm not saying this is the way it should always work but some times it does.
 
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April 13, 2006, 1:28 pm PDT

my experience

     My husband and I was engaged after only 5 days after meeting.  So many people feel that you can not get to know someone after this short of a time, I say it all depends on what you talk about and what is said.  We talked about; children, religion, lifestyle, where to live, discipline of the children, and we even talked about me being a stay at home mom.  I believe these things must be discussed before even thinking about marriage.  We were married 6 months after the engagement and pregnant 1 month later, with our first of three.  We have now been married for 16 years, this june, and still very happy, even though everyone thought it wouldn't last.  I am tired of people assuming that things can not work if it is quick.  What about quality over quantity, of time.  My husband and I are still very much in love and can see ourselves being together forever.  We love to be together as a couple and as a family.  We do family time and then we tell the kids we need date time.  All couples should do these! 
 
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April 13, 2006, 1:30 pm PDT

Rush to the alter

 My fiance' and I lived together for 2 years before we decided to tie the knot.  Our wedding is set for September.  We are very happy and very compatible.

My 2nd marriage was a disaster and we rushed to the alter.  He acted like he had a deadline he had to make. I went along for the ride and with in 2 years we were divorced. You really need to get to know the person you plan on spending the rest of your life with.  Get to know the GOOD, BAD and the UGLY. 
 
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April 13, 2006, 1:30 pm PDT

Needing some help !!

 I am a 27 yr old male from the north  and the person im with is 27 female from the south. Two different lifestyles we met at her cousins wedding in maine. I went to school with her cousin and her husband is my best friend. Upon meeting in maine we hit it off, i was teaching at the time no makeing much money living with mom and dad, she works as a tv personality. I decided to move to see if it would work, there was a struggle from the begining I had a hard time finding work and got allot of confederate questions even being singled out in a bar by her good friends upon my opinions of the flag ...she backed them, big fight etc.  After 3 months we got engaged on her TV show on air LIVE .....then it happend she planned the wedding in a month ....we faught allot and aruged about tic tac things when it hit me ...do i want to raise childeren so far from my family here in the south..do I want my children to miss out on what i had growing up ...so i asked to slow it down ..we had called off the wedding two other times due to convenice issues with family and friends ...could not be on a day of a football game ...so the wedding was set for may 28th of 2006. I asked in feb if we could post pone due to the fights and some issues that had arisen..  she took the ring off and threw it at me ...I have never left even though the ring has come off 8 times ...are fights have excalated to physical i have brusies and scrathes every time we fight ...I push back at times to get her to stay away ...something im not proud of at all ....she says things like she hates me and is not in love with me anymore then says she said them to get back at me ...she made me listen to her about the wedding after it was cancelled as she said in hopes i would just say ok lets get married...she makes great money  and no degree i have a degree and cant find a job i fit in or like ...she pused for a house ...all in her name ...

i cant get over the fights and how violent they get ..nor the things that are said ...her mother has said if the wedding is up north she would not go ...she wont move saying her family would not be around ..but that i should be able to live away from my family ......sounds contradicting .....please help me ......I do lover her and know its frustration causing her to be so angry but y would you say those things......again the ring is now in my possession and will not be given back we, live together and things are a mess at times but great others.......i dont know if i want to have my children so far from my family .......what should I do ...i am no angel in this and have pushed back at times but i feel sometimes you need to so you dont get hurt ......I dont know what to do ....is this worth saveing ...can anyone help me and us ??????      please ......we have allot of good times....i seems to be once a month we go through something dramatic .....please help .....is there a silver lining a way to solve the liveing away from my parents ?? am i being selfish by wanting to have my family around ......I have never asked her to move -- i feel everything is so one sided .....thank you for your time .......

 
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April 13, 2006, 1:30 pm PDT

What is too soon for some is not for others

I met my husband on the internet and we talked on-line for two evenings, I met him on the third evening, he proposed the day after we met and we were married  about six weeks later.  That was six years ago and we are very happy, best friends.  We have everything in common and feel like we have known each other all our lives.  But then we were older, Jim was 56 and I was 55.   I had been divorced (after 20 years of marriage to an alcholoic) for 15 years and he had lost his wive 14 months before we met.

 

I had made up a list of 10 qualities I was looking for in my next husband and decided I would not settle for less than 9 out of the 10.  I would waive the  "Millionaire" status if he had all the other qualities, which he did.

 

We have met some problems with his children and a bit of resentment, (their mother died 14 months before we met).  But we have worked through the situations and talked through them.  I am very "tough-love" oriented and Jim is very non-confrontational.  We agree on the action and carry through together. 

 

Religion plays an important part in our relationship and in every decision we make together.  I do believe that being older, you have a better sense of what you are looking for in a person and ability to make better judgments.

 

 

I knew my first husband for 6 years before I married him and did not know him at all.  I only knew Jim for 6 weeks and yet I knew everything about him.  Why the difference, I don't know, Do you?

 
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April 13, 2006, 1:41 pm PDT

Get Over Yourself, Darcy

 Like Dr. Phil, I don't think your "fiances" would have jumped off a cliff at the thought of losing you.  I would not admit that I had been engaged 7 times and was never mature enough to cultivate a meaningful relationship. Your tradeoff is the present. You're in your mid-40's, average in appearance, and alone.

 
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April 13, 2006, 1:51 pm PDT

OK, I just have to say this...

I don't want to slam anyone, but, that said, how ridiculous is it to be on the fence about marriage, but ALREADY have kids together?  Sorry, people, but you are already joined for life.  Marriage is easy to get out of, shared parenthood is impossible to end.  I am a staunch feminist, and I usually scoff at all the pressure put on women to marry, but I take having children very seriously.  So many people seem to think it's no big deal.  These are not caring, solid parenting situations.

 

I'm convinced that pregnancy is women's big power play.  Men have controlled marriage forever, simply because they have had the lion's share of the money, which is necessary to start a household.  However, when women get tired of men calling the shots, they say "guess what, now you're hooked - I'm pregnant!"  If only women would look around and see that that particular scenerio ALWAYS causes either misery or divorce.

 

Since I'm on a roll, if a guy does not want to get married, he's "just not that into you."  The rest is just polite chitchat. 

 

 
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