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How long does it take to know if you’ve found your soul mate? Years? Months? Weeks? Or could you know in only a few days? Just two weeks after their first date, Katie and Erik walked down the aisle. Did Katie get married so fast just to beat her sister to the altar? And is Erik everything he says he is? Find out what Dr. Phil learned about him through a background check. Then, Lance and Stacia knew each other only three months before marrying. Lance says that simply wasn’t long enough and so, within their first year of marriage, he had five affairs. Now, they are headed for divorce because they say they don’t really know each other. Can this marriage be saved? Next, Darcy is 51 and has been engaged seven times. At one point she was engaged to two men at the same time! Will she ever find love? Plus, Sandra has been engaged six times and married four – and she's barely 30 years old! Dr. Phil shows these guests – and you – how to Love Smart before rushing to the altar. Talk about the show here.

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April 13, 2006, 5:08 pm PDT

Watch For Signs!

I'm a hopeless romantic that would never purposly discourage love, but in regards to marrying too soon...I have personally learned the horrific effects of jumping in too deep, too fast.  Approx. 6 years ago, I met a 'man' and at the time and for a while, it was love at first sight.  I'm embarrassed to say that after 2 months of dating, he proposed, I accepted.  Twice we tried to get married and each time something happened to post-pone our courthouse marriage.  If there is such a thing, call that divine intervention.   I cannot express enough to anyone what a violent ending my 'true love' story had.  To back up, we moved in together and co-habitated for almost 4 years.   2 years in, I finally opened my eyes and realized that I was living with a manipulative, mean-spirited sociopath.  Long story short - he viciously attacked me in the home that I still live in.  Not only had my life been threatened several times, several ways, but  I was sexually assaulted, verbally abused, beaten, kicked, chocked and forced to be a hostage in my own home for 24 hours.  Happy to be alive, but in a severe amount of pain, broken, swollen, bloody and bruised.  To all persons who feel as if they truly know someone after a short time and are ready to take the plunge, please be sure there are no harmful objects under the surface.  My blindness to the warning signs almost killed me. 

 

Having survived that, I also had to endure years of Personal Protection Orders and looking over my shoulder.  But again, and most important, I survived.  There are still many days that I look around my home and vividly remember the events of those hours.   My only hope is that no one else ever has to experience that type of ending to what should've been a happliy-ever-after. 

 
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April 13, 2006, 6:25 pm PDT

04/13 Engaged Too Soon!

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I always thought the day you get engaged would be the happiest day of your life. I see now that you have just taken that out of context!! It doesn't matter how many times you get engaged, if you are not happy, you won't fine that one person. To be honest with you, I may have had my share of relationships with the one but at least I know it wasn't meant to be. I am getting ready to graduate from college and I know that when the time is right, the Lord will bless me with the right man. All I have to say is trust and believe that God will you Mr. Right. Who knows he might be the one you least expect.
I'm not meaning to offend here, but I would advise you NOT to think of the day you get engaged as 'the happiest day of your life". Truly what does that mean? That it's all down hill from there?
 
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April 13, 2006, 7:01 pm PDT

Married After 2 Months

 Marriage and love are a committment. You don't fall in and out of love. I believe in love at first sight, but probably in a much different way than most. My husband and I met on July 3 and were married two months later. That was nearly 21 years ago. We love each other very much, always have. But we have worked at our relationship. It's a relationship that we established, we wanted from day one.

Can love at first sight work? I'm living proof that it can, but the two people have to be committed to each other, not to the idea of the magic of love. Love isn't a feeling, it's a committment!

 
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April 13, 2006, 7:18 pm PDT

04/13 Engaged Too Soon!

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I think the difference is the difference between people who choose to only cohabit once they marry and those who are more casual about cohabitation. Most of the people I know who have been successfully married did not cohabit with anyone but the person they married.  The people I know who lived together with someone and then married didn't marry the first person they lived with.

I agree, many of my friends who married successfully, did NOT live together before marriage, but I know many who have NOT lived together, and were divorced in a year.My "Husband " and I have lived together now for seventeen years with two children, and yes both children are his.  Do they know mom and Dad aren't REALLY married like their friend's parents, sure they do, we've never hidden that from them, and yet funny, they've never questioned our love for them, or the stability of their family, no big deal for us or our REAL friends, so it was no big deal to them.

My husband and I thought it was better to provide a stable happy home, and to look after our kids together, no matter what, whether we stayed together or not, that was our focus, not what family or friends thought, and you know it was funny, they did come around, maybe they didn't like it, but it didn't matter.

Now, that being said, My friends that went ahead lived together, then got married,well yes they are divorced, but why ?  In one case, once he figured, " great, she signed the papers, she can't leave, I now own her."  In another case, she thought "well we're married so NOW he MUST toe the line. "

I have nothing against mariage, but we have no plans to change things, and I think I worry less than my actual MARRIED friends.

Marriage just isn't my thing.  My advice though before planning to live common-law, here in Canada or in The United States, check with your provincial or state courts to find out if you need to register your status, especially if your plan on owning property or having children together, if for no other reason than to protect your own and the childrens rights.

Whether you choose to marry, or live common-law, it IS a commitment, and either way, both parties should do their RESEARCH into their local  laws and find out the ins and outs of both options before deciding, no regrets here about my decisions, so I don't need anyone preaching to me, or trying to change my mind.

 

 

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April 13, 2006, 7:40 pm PDT

Excellent point about sociopaths.

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I'm a hopeless romantic that would never purposly discourage love, but in regards to marrying too soon...I have personally learned the horrific effects of jumping in too deep, too fast.  Approx. 6 years ago, I met a 'man' and at the time and for a while, it was love at first sight.  I'm embarrassed to say that after 2 months of dating, he proposed, I accepted.  Twice we tried to get married and each time something happened to post-pone our courthouse marriage.  If there is such a thing, call that divine intervention.   I cannot express enough to anyone what a violent ending my 'true love' story had.  To back up, we moved in together and co-habitated for almost 4 years.   2 years in, I finally opened my eyes and realized that I was living with a manipulative, mean-spirited sociopath.  Long story short - he viciously attacked me in the home that I still live in.  Not only had my life been threatened several times, several ways, but  I was sexually assaulted, verbally abused, beaten, kicked, chocked and forced to be a hostage in my own home for 24 hours.  Happy to be alive, but in a severe amount of pain, broken, swollen, bloody and bruised.  To all persons who feel as if they truly know someone after a short time and are ready to take the plunge, please be sure there are no harmful objects under the surface.  My blindness to the warning signs almost killed me. 

 

Having survived that, I also had to endure years of Personal Protection Orders and looking over my shoulder.  But again, and most important, I survived.  There are still many days that I look around my home and vividly remember the events of those hours.   My only hope is that no one else ever has to experience that type of ending to what should've been a happliy-ever-after. 

First, I'm so sorry that happened to you.  :-(

 

Sociopaths act super loving & attentive in the beginning, sweeping women off their feet.  They don't immediately show their true colors.  If you marry a guy in the romantic glow of his early super-romantic ultra attentive behavior without taking adequate time to get to know him first, you run the risk that Prince Charming is really a sociopath.  And about 1 out of 23 people are believed to be sociopaths. 

 
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April 13, 2006, 8:26 pm PDT

Good Luck

First, I want to say congratulations to those of you who had short pre-marital relationships yet still manage to have long happy relationships.  I think what many people seem to miss, however, is that for everyone one of you, there are so many more out there that get married so soon and end up in bad marriages or worse divorces.  If you are the type of person that is prone to make a marriage work, then you would have made a lengthy courtship work, too.  If you are not the type of person that can make a rough marriage work, wouldn't you at least like to increase your odds of making the right decision by getting few years under your belt first? 

 

I too believe in love at first site, but there are two thoughts on that:

 

1. If it is really love at first site, it will still be love at 1000th site.  There is no reason in the world why waiting to get married is bad for a relationship.  There are a hundred reasons why not waiting can be bad.

 

2. Although it may truly be love at first site for you, and it may look like love at first site for your partner, only time will tell if your partner is the type of person to fall hard and cool off later.  Waiting until you have been through a few hard times should settle it.  Two months is almost never enough to really hit hard times.

 

As for those readers who have commented that they have been waiting forever for their man to give the marriage "ok", there is no good reason for waiting an unreasonable length of time to get married.  If he says that he wants to save up money or get a better job first, sit down with him and draw up a plan for making those happen that includes a reasonably firm timeframe.  Then, if he isn't working torward that plan, he probably isn't the right one for you.  Think hard about getting out!

 

And, yes, I'm a happily married man who knew that my wife was the right one from week two.  She knew I was the right one after month two.  We could have gotten married right then, but we waited 2 1/2 years and have no regrets!

 
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April 13, 2006, 8:44 pm PDT

engaged too soon?

 

 

  I also married a sailor and we only went together for three weeks before we got married. We just KNEW we were right for each other. We were from total opposite sides of the US  and two total different families but same religion and we enjoyed many of the same things.  I do not believe that length of time has anything to do with it. I think that the couples in trouble because they were engaged too soon would have had problems no matter how long they knew each other. My husband and I were a unique couple that is for sure and everyone was shocked when we told them we had been married after three weeks. NOW the important thing is that we were very much in love the whole time and we were married for 39 years. We would still be married today had he not suddenly got cancer and died last October 12 2005 , one month before his 65th birthday and our 39th Anniversary.. He was my best friend, my soul mate and I miss him very very much.

 
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April 13, 2006, 8:51 pm PDT

Thanks!

Quote From: alaskagal5

 Marriage and love are a committment. You don't fall in and out of love. I believe in love at first sight, but probably in a much different way than most. My husband and I met on July 3 and were married two months later. That was nearly 21 years ago. We love each other very much, always have. But we have worked at our relationship. It's a relationship that we established, we wanted from day one.

Can love at first sight work? I'm living proof that it can, but the two people have to be committed to each other, not to the idea of the magic of love. Love isn't a feeling, it's a committment!

My husband and I were engaged 3 weeks after we met. Our first child was born on the anniversary of our first date. We are so happy! We have been married 2 and a half years, and have recently welcomed our second child. Thank you for sharing that this does work. I get frustrated with shows that disparrage quick marriages. Love is not what hollywood displays, but a commitment to family and eachother. We thank God together daily for the love that we share and the strength of our relationship.
 
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April 13, 2006, 9:04 pm PDT

04/13 Engaged Too Soon!

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I'm a hopeless romantic that would never purposly discourage love, but in regards to marrying too soon...I have personally learned the horrific effects of jumping in too deep, too fast.  Approx. 6 years ago, I met a 'man' and at the time and for a while, it was love at first sight.  I'm embarrassed to say that after 2 months of dating, he proposed, I accepted.  Twice we tried to get married and each time something happened to post-pone our courthouse marriage.  If there is such a thing, call that divine intervention.   I cannot express enough to anyone what a violent ending my 'true love' story had.  To back up, we moved in together and co-habitated for almost 4 years.   2 years in, I finally opened my eyes and realized that I was living with a manipulative, mean-spirited sociopath.  Long story short - he viciously attacked me in the home that I still live in.  Not only had my life been threatened several times, several ways, but  I was sexually assaulted, verbally abused, beaten, kicked, chocked and forced to be a hostage in my own home for 24 hours.  Happy to be alive, but in a severe amount of pain, broken, swollen, bloody and bruised.  To all persons who feel as if they truly know someone after a short time and are ready to take the plunge, please be sure there are no harmful objects under the surface.  My blindness to the warning signs almost killed me. 

 

Having survived that, I also had to endure years of Personal Protection Orders and looking over my shoulder.  But again, and most important, I survived.  There are still many days that I look around my home and vividly remember the events of those hours.   My only hope is that no one else ever has to experience that type of ending to what should've been a happliy-ever-after. 

I remarried for the second time after only three months of dating a man I met in church.  I thought it was a great sign.  We were in love at first sight.  We believed that because we had both learned our lessons from our first marriages that we wouldn't make the same mistakes.  Unfortunately we didn't talk about parenting skills and techniques, money matters, dealing with ex-spouses....nothing.  We were in love and got married.  The honeymoon lasted about three years for the two of us, but the children from both marriages truly got caught in the middle because we didn't have a common plan.  Looking back I realize it was a mistake.  After ten years the marriage ended.  I wouldn't want to make that mistake again. 

 
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April 13, 2006, 9:24 pm PDT

"Right" amount of time is different for everyone

My husband and I met in September of 2004 and moved in together by December of 2004.  We got engaged in May of 2005, just within a few weeks of finding out he was going to be deployed to Iraq.  We had a courthouse wedding in July of 2005.  During all of this, my parents who had been married for 30 years were going through a divorce...talk about discouraging.  My sister was with her husband for 7 years before they got married, and she was shocked that we were getting married so quickly.  I really don't think anyone can say what is the "right" amount of time before getting married.  It is all about communication and having clear expectations for what each you want out of your marriage/life together.  Many people thought my husband and I were only getting married because of his deployment.  Little did they know that it was already being discussed before we found out this news.  Hopefully those doubtful friends and family members will regret the comments they have made when in the future, they receive their invitations to celebrate our 50th wedding anniversary.
 
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