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How long does it take to know if you’ve found your soul mate? Years? Months? Weeks? Or could you know in only a few days? Just two weeks after their first date, Katie and Erik walked down the aisle. Did Katie get married so fast just to beat her sister to the altar? And is Erik everything he says he is? Find out what Dr. Phil learned about him through a background check. Then, Lance and Stacia knew each other only three months before marrying. Lance says that simply wasn’t long enough and so, within their first year of marriage, he had five affairs. Now, they are headed for divorce because they say they don’t really know each other. Can this marriage be saved? Next, Darcy is 51 and has been engaged seven times. At one point she was engaged to two men at the same time! Will she ever find love? Plus, Sandra has been engaged six times and married four – and she's barely 30 years old! Dr. Phil shows these guests – and you – how to Love Smart before rushing to the altar. Talk about the show here.

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April 14, 2006, 8:50 am PDT

what to do?!

My husband and I have been married for 8 1/2 years.  I have two children from a previous marriage and we have one together.  We met in January, started dating in August, engaged in September and married in November.  I thought he was the man of my dreams.  He seemed so perfect for me and my children in everyway.  We had gone through some rough spots and separated after being married for fives years.  Got back together after three months of being separated.  We were finally able to talk out our problems and we seemed to be more in love then when we were first together.  I really thought it was going to be great after that, and the first year back together was.  Then, I got really sick and found out that I have a life long illness that comes and goes whenever it feels like.  I was then sexually attacked and we had to deal with that.  Now, I am almost a completely different person then I was after all these changes with myself.  I can no longer be as active as I was because of my illness.  It seems like all of this has been too much for him and we have really drifted apart.  I guess him for having to deal with all of it and me for realizing that I thought I was marring one man and got another.  I know if it were me in his shoes, I wouldn't feel any differently, but I know he does.  Even if he had some kind of accident and could never walk again, I would still love and take care of him the way I would have if it had never happened.  I feel abandoned for being sick and having limitataions.  If I would have known this, I really don't think I would have gotten back together with him.  Now, I feel really stuck.  I don't want to upset our children again by splitting up.  It was very difficult on them.  I cannot work a hectic job, (which is what pays the most) so I am afraid to be a single parent again.  I have spoken with him twice that we need to recconnect or our marriage will end eventually, but he has not made any attempts to do so.  I know all of this has to do with marring so soon after we met.  I would definitely tell others not to make the same mistake.  Life is so unpredictable that you never know what may happen.  You must go through hard times with someone to fully know how you will handle them together as a unit before committing to a long life together.  Be 100% sure that the person you choose CAN and WILL be able to stand next to you fully without any doubts before being married.  Just because he is a good man and good provider doesn't mean that he is the one that will be their for you when it really counts.  Find all of this out before you say "I do".  Anyway, any advice for this situation would be greatly appreciated.  It is very easy to say get out, but I also feel that my children really need a stable home.  Oh, also, we don't fight much at all.  It is not a poisonous home for them.  We just basically go day to day.  A lot of times we don't even talk much to eachother.  We are very civil and it seems like we co-function for the families sake.  I know I don't want to live like this, but I feel as if I don't have any other choice.  I want to be loved and nurtured and comforted.  He claims that he is so unhappy with his work and how life is and the constant struggle with finances and the pressures of parenting that he has nothing left to give.  Do I wait until or it changes one day?  I really don't know what the right thing is to do.  I keep saying that my time will come.  I wish it was now, but shouldn't the kids happiness and stable home life come first.  If I was on my own they would miss out on after shool functions and sporting events and such, because I would be working all the time and if I wasn't working I would be in bed crying in pain from working my body so hard due to my illness.  PLEASE HELP!!!

 
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April 14, 2006, 9:01 am PDT

what is your status?

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     What I don't get is why people live together for years on end before getting married, and then end up divorced not to long after they get married.  

     Marriage is a life time and weddings are one day. I think that if you put as much time into your marriage as you do into your wedding you can make it work.  

     I did get married quickly to my husband but I knew he was the one and we have great communication and do not let things get out of control. We know how to fight fair, we keep no secrets from eachother and we remain open minded to eachothers thoughts on the big and small things. 

     What is right for everyone is different and like Dr. Phil said "you can't always make the right decision, but you can make your decision right." 

     When you point your finger at others alway remember that you have 3 fingers pointed right back at you. 

so, if you got married quickly, and you say it is ok, how long have you been married now?  After you got married, how did you deal with your conflicts?  HAve you learned how to live with each other's bad habits, or annoying behaviors?  If you can't do that, you will have a miserable marriage, if you decide to stay together!  I'm curious to know how long you have been married, so we can get some insight on your relationship.  I think that getting to know your partner is a vital part of having a healthy relationship!! What are you holding back from him because you don't feel comfortable with him yet?  Because I would think that may be an issue!   LIke when you first start dating somebody and you have a hard time eating while you are in front of him because you are nervous.  Did you have any issues like that?  Interested to know!
 
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April 14, 2006, 9:08 am PDT

It worked for me

 I guess it really depends on the people involved.  My husband and I met in Nov, started dating in Dec, were engaged in Jan, and got married in March.  We've been married for 7 yrs now.  Marriage isn't easy---it is something that both people have to work at.  I have seen most of my friends get married and divorced recently, and most of them dated 4-5 yrs before marriage.  
 
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April 14, 2006, 9:20 am PDT

Not all quick engagements and marriages fail

My wife and I have been happily married for 25 1/2 years. On 3-1-1980, my wife and I met. We really hit it off well. 16 days later, we were engaged. on 9-7-1980, we got married. We have a grown son who attends UC Berkeley. I think what helped our marriage to work  well is that when we first met, we shared all of our "skeletons in our closets". We've always have been genuine and honest to each other. when we first met, no "fronts" occured. We like to act nutty with each other. We love puns. If we argue, it ends with us laughing at each other about our issues that caused us to argue in the first place.  Our marriage continues to work well. Sometimes I wish I could share with people in what it takes for a happy marriage. All of the ingredients we used for our happy marriage worked. I hope that other couples could be happy like us. Raphael 
 
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April 14, 2006, 3:39 pm PDT

We Got Married in 15 Days!

The saying you find love when your not looking for it is so true!  The day I met my husband, I decided I was going to enjoy being single and quite looking for love.

 

 

 

For fun one morning I was on Yahoo Personals looking for someone to visit with.  I decided to use the Lucky Spin option, just a random guy.  I even thought that would it be crazy if I got married to someone I met this way.  First new face, I clicked on his profile and liked what I read just thinking maybe I will make a new friend.  How was I to know he would end up being my best friend?

 

 

 

We had a great chat that morning.  When I had to leave, I gave him my number to call me that night.  He called me exactly when I asked him to and told me he was looking forward to talking to me that entire day.

 

 

 

At the beginning, I told him that it would be cool to hang out sometime and wasn't planning to date him.  The more we talked and had in common (our feelings about life and relationships) the more I changed my mind.   It was changing quickly: from maybe we should go on a date to maybe ending up in a relationship someday down the road. 

 

 

 

We were completely honest with one another from the beginning and realized we were falling in love.  We knew this was a bit crazy but we were following our hearts.  My heart was racing and I was scared to say those three little words, then he said that he loved me and I told him I loved him too. 

 

 

 

We agreed to take down our profiles.  As we continued to talk, I blurted out: I believe you are the man I want to marry! He asked if it was a proposal and asked me to marry him.  We decided to do it quickly, maybe we’ll even write a book someday.  We started to plan out our lives together.   

 

 

We talked on the phone over 16 hours before meeting 3 days later.  We went out for dinner and talked late into the night.  We spent every moment we could together and on the phone while apart.

 

 

 

He's in the Army and the night after we met, he asked what if he got deployed?  Would I still want to get married? I told him of course, that he's worth the wait.  Unfortunately, the next day this became a reality for us.

 

 

 

Earlier that morning, I was talking on the phone with my dad.  He was very eager to meet him and already assumed we were going to get married.  I took Tom to meet my parents that weekend, they absolutely loved him!  (My mom and granny were concerned about the deployment issue just because of hard it would be on me.)  I asked my parents if they would serve as our witnesses and they said yes. 

 

 

 

The night before we got married I introduced him to one of my friends.  When I spoke alone with my friend he said he was happy for me and could tell how happy I was.  I told him how long we had known each other and he told me, his parents only knew one another a week before tying the knot 27 years ago.   

 

 

 

Getting married was very emotional for the two of us, I cried after we said our vows.  The man of my dreams is now my husband. 

 

 

 

That weekend, we went to Missouri to surprise his parents (they knew nothing about me).  They were shocked for only a moment and then welcomed me into the family with open arms.  I have the best in-laws I could ever ask for!  We didn't tell them how long we were together, but his mom already assumed it was not very long.  That's not an issue to her, since they got married after dating for only 3 months (47 years ago). 

 

 

 

We made the most of our time together before he was deployed.  The more we learn about one another, the more we fall in love.   He was deployed 5 weeks after we got married. 

 

 

 

We have been married over 7 months now.  During this time our love grows stronger and we continue to grow closer.   We have yet to have an argument and refuse to during this time (8000 miles apart: it’s pointless!).   

 

 

 

He continues to sweep me off my feet with his words.  He's proud to be a romantic and surprises me with flowers.  I'm finally embracing my mushy side when I send his weekly care packages. 

 

 

 

We know we are a rare pair.  We are both in out late 20's and have the crazy part of our 20's out of our system.  This is the first marriage for the two of us and neither one of us has children.  Of course that was the first two questions our friends asked when they learned of the news.   

 

 

 

I have made a lot of positive changes in my life since meeting him.  I believe that he's a blessing from God because the night we first talked on the phone, was my first night on my journey of sobriety.  I had a drinking problem for over 3 years. I always knew good things would happen but not this quickly. 

 

 

On February 17, 2007 we are going to renew our vows so our friends and family can celebrate the love we have for one another!   

 

 

 
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April 15, 2006, 4:06 am PDT

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I remarried for the second time after only three months of dating a man I met in church.  I thought it was a great sign.  We were in love at first sight.  We believed that because we had both learned our lessons from our first marriages that we wouldn't make the same mistakes.  Unfortunately we didn't talk about parenting skills and techniques, money matters, dealing with ex-spouses....nothing.  We were in love and got married.  The honeymoon lasted about three years for the two of us, but the children from both marriages truly got caught in the middle because we didn't have a common plan.  Looking back I realize it was a mistake.  After ten years the marriage ended.  I wouldn't want to make that mistake again. 

I got married two months after meeting my husband...one thing you mentioned I believe is super important!  TALKING!  We didnt mix sex in until we had spent weeks and hours just talking about eveyrthing under teh sun.  I mean EVERYTHING.  I learned more about him that I knew about all my previous boyfriends together.  I think so many get married because they are in love with the idea of marriage, being a couple and don't really plan what happens after marriage.  I read alot of comments here about how hard marriage is and I agree.  My marriage isn't perfect but its happy, its real and it feels right...even when we're so pissed at each other we can't see straight (which isnt very often).  We both brought baggage and have worked hard to eliminate it and see if for what it is...that alone has created alot more security in our relationship and less stress.  Its hard to face though at times because we all want to believe we left it behind long ago. 

 

My biggest advice to people wanting to jump in....make sure you've talked till you have nothing to say (which has yet to happen to us!) and be honest with what you want. Don't think you'll change something you don't like after you get married.  I fyou don' like it now...you'll hate it even more in 6 months.  Women want to nuture...lose that idea when you're deciding what is right for you.  You don't want to be the guys mom either.  The more honest with yourself you are..the better choices you will make...so listen to that little voice you try to ignore.

 

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April 15, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

Awesome insight

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 Marriage and love are a committment. You don't fall in and out of love. I believe in love at first sight, but probably in a much different way than most. My husband and I met on July 3 and were married two months later. That was nearly 21 years ago. We love each other very much, always have. But we have worked at our relationship. It's a relationship that we established, we wanted from day one.

Can love at first sight work? I'm living proof that it can, but the two people have to be committed to each other, not to the idea of the magic of love. Love isn't a feeling, it's a committment!

I loved what you said.  I agree 100%.  We established before our big day what things were important to us.  I brought a son into the picture and my husband a mother that is a bit out of it.  Its not always easy to deal with these other things...marriage isn't just about the two married but the entire family....  Love is a feeling in my book but it doesnt mean anything if it comes without honesty and commitment.  That is True love.  I am so in love with my husband but I'm also in love with our life together.  Its heathly, its happy and its constantly growning and maturing.  Should we have waited more than 2 months...maybe...but I still today and I know he does too because we talk alot about things, that we did the right thing for us.    Congrats on your 21 years...I know we're going to make it too because we both want it and are committed to making it happen.  I also have to say he's the most awesome dad to my son (who was 13 when we met).  Dr. Phil is wrong on that one area regarding step parents shouldnt discipline...for us it really has helped because my son adores my husband, thinks of him as dad (his dad has never really been around) and respects the hell out of him.  So if its the right man and the right discipline...it does work for a step parent...especially when you're a single mom of a boy... they do need a man figure to emulate in life.
 
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April 15, 2006, 4:26 pm PDT

You sound just like me!

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I would not recommend this for every one, but my husband and I became engaged 29 days after we met. We were married in four months. The biggest difference I see in most of the relationships that take longer or end badly is that they never really talked to each other. My husband and I talked about EVERYTHING before we got engaged. We sat up for hours, went on drives, and went on walks just to talk to each other. The topics included everything rom expectations of spouses, to children, to where to live, to parenting styles. I  told him that I was only getting married once, so he'd better be sure. I was also very up front with him. I told him I was a jealous, needy, and clingy person. If he couldn't or wouldn't be able to deal with that, then I was not the gal for him.

 

We have had our rough spots and have had some major diagreements, but because we talked so much before hand, we knew where each of us stood, so it was not a surprise.

 

WOW...I thought I was reading something I wrote....I told my husband the same thing...I am clingy and was afraid I'd scare him off in the beginning...so I warned him...its also why we didnt sleep together right away. The first time we met after he left me (we met at a bowling alley with some friends and were there about 1/2 hour) he went to his friends and said...she's the one.   LOL  So we both knew right away but did like you said...TALKED, and talked and talked.  He owns a semi truck so we would talk for hours on the phone in those first months when he'd be on the road (he drove Canada to Portland alot then and would be gone late afternoon to the next day...(I'd go see him before he'd leave).  I also was only getting married once and I didnt wait to be 39 to mess it up!!

 

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April 16, 2006, 8:16 am PDT

engaged too soon

My parents,   God bless them, met on a blind date on New years eve and were married 6 weeks later.  They just celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary.  After 3 children, 8 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren, at the ages of 87 and 83 they are still going strong.  They are wonderful parent and great role models.  My father at 87 just found out he has a slow growing cancer.  My mother fuses over him all the time.  I have worked in the geriatric field for 30 + years and I have no doubt that the day one of them leaves this world the other will be very close behind because after 65 years they both do not want to live without the other. Theirs was a marriage you no longer see .I only hope my marriage will be as strong as theirs.  I have been married for 26 years, its been rocky at times but my role models were very strong.  My husbands parents were married for 27 years before his father passed. they were married after 2 months and had 5 children in 7 years.  It also was a very strong marriage and there was 27 years difference in their ages. My husband and I knew each other for about 6 months, and I'm 7 years older then he is. He was 20 when we got married and was only married for 5 months before we had a 3 month premature baby,with a birth defect, he was in the hospital for 4 months and on oxygen for 13 months. Our marriage has been tested,  he was 16 when he received a head injury from a baseball that ended up causing a blood clot on his brain, which resulted in personality changes and short term memory loss with depression and was 21 years of age when he tried to commit suicide.  We put him in treatment and to make a long story short, he is now 25 and doing great.  He is on medication which he will have to take the rest of his life, but he knows this and has come to terms with it.  Our daughter at age 18 was on drugs, and we put her into a drug rehab.  she spent 30 days in there and when she got out became pregnant.  She had the baby and lived with us, she recently had her 2nd daughter and is getting married May 5th to a very nice young man.  To say the least our lives have been tested.

in 2000 I was diagnosed with Hepatitis C that I got when my son was born in 1980.  My health has not been good and I had to quit work in 2003.  We ended up losing just about everything but our house and had to take bankruptcy.  But our marriage is strong and I hope we have 65 years  together like my parents.

 
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April 16, 2006, 4:23 pm PDT

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My parents,   God bless them, met on a blind date on New years eve and were married 6 weeks later.  They just celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary.  After 3 children, 8 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren, at the ages of 87 and 83 they are still going strong.  They are wonderful parent and great role models.  My father at 87 just found out he has a slow growing cancer.  My mother fuses over him all the time.  I have worked in the geriatric field for 30 + years and I have no doubt that the day one of them leaves this world the other will be very close behind because after 65 years they both do not want to live without the other. Theirs was a marriage you no longer see .I only hope my marriage will be as strong as theirs.  I have been married for 26 years, its been rocky at times but my role models were very strong.  My husbands parents were married for 27 years before his father passed. they were married after 2 months and had 5 children in 7 years.  It also was a very strong marriage and there was 27 years difference in their ages. My husband and I knew each other for about 6 months, and I'm 7 years older then he is. He was 20 when we got married and was only married for 5 months before we had a 3 month premature baby,with a birth defect, he was in the hospital for 4 months and on oxygen for 13 months. Our marriage has been tested,  he was 16 when he received a head injury from a baseball that ended up causing a blood clot on his brain, which resulted in personality changes and short term memory loss with depression and was 21 years of age when he tried to commit suicide.  We put him in treatment and to make a long story short, he is now 25 and doing great.  He is on medication which he will have to take the rest of his life, but he knows this and has come to terms with it.  Our daughter at age 18 was on drugs, and we put her into a drug rehab.  she spent 30 days in there and when she got out became pregnant.  She had the baby and lived with us, she recently had her 2nd daughter and is getting married May 5th to a very nice young man.  To say the least our lives have been tested.

in 2000 I was diagnosed with Hepatitis C that I got when my son was born in 1980.  My health has not been good and I had to quit work in 2003.  We ended up losing just about everything but our house and had to take bankruptcy.  But our marriage is strong and I hope we have 65 years  together like my parents.

Do you mean your daughter? You made it seem like your daughter was also his. I don't see how your 25-year-old husband could have an 18-year-old daughter. Just curious - perhaps you made a typo.
 
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