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November 16, 2005, 12:10 pm PST

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If you are looking at things differently, mabye you should let your partner in on this. 

I am not a counselor, but have been on this forum often. I sense something more 

than just the child in question. I see no reason to cancel or postpone marriage plans 

around such a fixable issue. Her jealousy, may be the connection and power she has to  

be in control of this situation i.e. sleeping with this child, and creating havoc as you say. 

But see it looks so easy and fixable but if the parties involved are not able or willing to help fix thsese situations when they arise then I am not willing to be in a unhealthy relationship. It is causing fighting and bad feelings. He is aware that I am looking at it differently I am honest in my realationships. I think we have gotten off topic what my real question is is how do I get this kid to stop crying all the time and how do mmy partner and I figure it out in a positive way.
 
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November 17, 2005, 9:51 pm PST

I need some help please

I have a 21 year old stepson. My husband and I just got married in February '05, lived together since May '04, been together for 3 1/2 years. The problem is that my stepson is a MAJOR manipulator and liar and all around loser. I used to try to help him. He would make poor choices and decisions and get in trouble with the courts, lose his drivers license,  etc...I would talk to him about making better choices and tell him that I would give him some help to get himself on the right track. I found out that he doesn't use the help to get on the right track, he just expects he can continue to do what he wants to do and will get bailed out. If we don't bail him out, he cusses us out. He makes nothing but excuses for not making better choices. For instance, it's November, his license plates were due in July, he still hasn't gotten them and his excuse is that is jeep wouldn't pass emissions. Although, he never made any attempt to fix the problem on the jeep so it would pass emissions. Then he told his dad that I would need to start parking on the street so his jeep wouldn't get towed! And his dad told me I need to park on the street!!! I said no way of course, but now his dad is parking on the street! Yet the stepson will still DRIVE with expired plates! He refuses to move out, does not follow any rules, I told him he needed to clean the basement by a certain deadline and if it wasn't done, I was packing his stuff for him to go elsewhere, but of course, he knew that nothing would happen and his dad wouldn't back me up and sure enough, when the deadline came and it wasn't done, I told him he needed to go, but his dad turned right around and said, he's not going anywhere. According to the way my husband treats him, he can do no wrong! His sister always took the fall for Jr's actions, until she moved, then it was my daughter getting blamed for Jr's actions, until she moved. Now my husband just makes excuses for him cause there is no one around to blame it on. He dropped out of school at age 16, did nothing but sit around the house and party with his friends for OVER 4 YEARS; his dad would tell him to stop, but he would just tell him where to go and keep doing it, because there has never been any consequences for his actions. He got a job just a few months ago. I made him get a job, again with telling him he was going to have to move out. Now he has a job, but is always late to work and may lose the job. And by the way, he is completely disrespectful and not even a nice human being. He is a negative drain. Then after he didn't clean the basement, his dad took him out and co-signed on a new car for him!! I know that my husband will end up making the payments, because Jr. won't. He knows what ever he doesn't do, if he waits it out long enough, my husband will take care of it. I moved out for a little while after my husband didn't back me up on throwing him out for not meeting the deadline for cleaning the basement....then moved back after we talked and he came to an agreement with me that Jr. will have to move out by the end of February. I am afraid that when that time comes now, the excuse will be that he can't afford it, cause now he has a car payment and insurance. (Even though my husband will be paying those). Jr makes about $1700.00 a month. Where does all his money go? I have already decided if that happens, I am LEAVING my husband for good!!!! I can't take it anymore. It's just discusting! Any advice?? How do I help my husband to see that his no good son is just using him and doesn't care if we have a life or not?? In fact, part of the reason for not cleaning the basement was because he knew it would cause a fight and he'd love nothing more than to break us up and it's working!! Help!!!!!
 
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November 18, 2005, 1:06 pm PST

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I don't think this is about the ex feeling threatened by another mother figure - she seems to have been reasonable up to now.  I think it is probably about your method of discipline.  If the ex disapproves of smacking under any circumstances then the only way to get a quiet life is to find other ways to get your point across. 

  

What the boys' father says has to say on the the subject of your disciplining them in your household won't matter to the ex for 3 reasons: 

  

a) she fundamentally disapproves of physical punishment.  (This is the important one.  Whatever you believe there will be no compromise from her on this so don't waste your time trying to change her views.)  

  

b) she doesn't know you well enough to be convinced your heart is in the right place as far as her children are concerned. 

  

c) she wasn't there to see the smack was a tap rather than a hit. 

  

What I suggest you do is set up a series of treats for your fiance's return when you are left alone with the boys again - Video, Ice cream for pudding, Story reading, Late bedtime - which wrong- doers who don't respond to verbal direction are excluded from. 

  

I also suggest that your boyfriend climbs down from his current position and talks to his ex about the practicalities of day to day living and the consequences in the ex's house if you don't have some disciplinary tools at your disposal.  

  

  

  

I do agree with what you said about finding things for them on his return. and thank you for responding One thing i wanted to add though she does believe in spanking as a punishment her and him do it often when needed her problem was with me doing it. and this isnt the first thing she has had a problem with it always seems to be something new that she has a problem with from the ammount of time i spend with the boys or how close we are getting but those have all been worked on its just this one seems to be the worst yet and i really do want it resolved for the kids sake but at same time with as much as i am caring for the boys my fiance and i feel how are they to listen to me if she says the are to call her every time i discipline them.
 
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November 19, 2005, 8:34 am PST

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so how do we deal with our step kids when we are the ones with them most of the time?  What I mean is my hubby (their dad) is the disciplinarian and that is what their relationship is becoming mostly cause it is becoming "wait til your father gets home" and then after working all day he has to come home to deal with a problem or situation that happened hours ago or sometimes even a day before if he comes home too late...I have tried to ask their mom for help and though she says they should respect me and listen to me she also feels I shouldn't discipline them.  I am afraid that the kids don't respect me or are treating me badly cause they know I don't have power and also just because they can get away with it! I am at my wits end and now I don't make any decisions -- if they want to go to a friends house it has to be discussed with daddy beforehand or they can't go cause I don't think it is fair for them to walk all over me getting me to let them do the things they want to do but not correct them when they are wrong. 

  

Dr. Phil also says that "people treat you the way that you let them" so where did I go wrong with my step kids that they don't treat me right?  BTW, the kids are stepdaughter age 16 and stepson age 13 and I met them at ages 3 & 5 when they lived with their mom.  They came to live with us 5 years ago and we have a 4 year old son and a 2 year old daughter as well. 

  

Thanks in advance.  Advice is appreciated. 

Dr Phil says stepparents should be the disciplinarians, but that doesn't mean that they can't enforce the rules set down by the parents, and use the known consequences.  In our house, there are a list of rules on the refrigerator, along with the consequences for breaking each of those rules. Since they are known to everyone in the household, there has never been any problem with my husband saying to one of my children "You broke this rule, so now you have this consequence." If something happens that isn't covered under one of the rules, and I'm not there to set a consequence, then the child is removed from the rest of the family to a safe place for a specified amount of time, which varies with the age of the child, and I set any further consequences when I am there. 

  

You need to expect them to treat you with respect, and you and Dad need to set up consequences for any time that you are NOT treated with respect by them. 

 
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November 21, 2005, 1:58 pm PST

stepmom needs advice

we have been married for 2 years & my husbands ex-wife constantly interferes in his/our relationship with his girls ages 16 & 20. she says she wants them to see their dad but if they come over she is constantly calling them or tells them they need to go home and do chores. She bad mouths both of us to them and this we know from their friends who have heard her and told us what she says. Because of this the girls wont allow me to get close. they even keep their dad at arms length. they're intimidated by her and they believe everything she says.  it hurts to see how this affects my husband. we try not to say anything negative about her to them. If he says anything to her the situation gets worse and the girls distance themselves even more. i try to stay out of things and let him handle it but i'm sick of this woman and want her out of our lives. i hold back from saying anything to her for my husbands sake. i told him once the younger girl is 18 i wont be nice to this lady anymore! what should i do, if anything? 

 
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November 22, 2005, 3:08 am PST

Monthly allowance to stepchild

My husband and I have been married over 10 years.  We have 3 kids between us, my son who is 27, and his two daughters 30 and 33.  He has been giving his youngest daughter a monthly allowance of about $250 since she was in college.  He continued when she graduated until she got a job but although now she is on her second job and is doing well and stable financially he continues to provide her this monthly allowance.  We have discussed it repeatedly and this past summer he promised to talk to her to stop it but it did not happen.  I got angry and told him it is not the money but the principle since the other two kids do not get any kind of allowance, plus she is a 30 year old woman.  He says he will do it when the time is "right" and then gets angry and won't talk to me if I bring it up!  I might add that he treats this daughter very much like a baby and she has always been a "Daddy's girl".  I told him that if any of the kids need anything we can try and help but not on a REGULAR basis !  My husand is in his late 50's and we are both working now and as he says "we can afford it"  but in a few years we will be on retirement income and that $250 is not something I am prepared to spend when we are on a fixed income..  How can I get him to understand this and make it stop without causing alot of resentment.   

 
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November 23, 2005, 11:59 pm PST

misplaced animosity

Oh my, where to start? I'm a single mom of 3 kids.  Oldest is 21, my son, the next one is my 17 year old daughter, both of which live with their dad.  Then I have my 14 year old daughter, from my 2nd marriage.  All three of my children are wonderful people, who are as successful as they can be at their stage of life. 

I've been dating someone long distance for over 4 years.  He has a daughter (who is 21 shortly) from his first marriage that ended over 18 years ago. He got custody of his daughter if that says anything about his ex wife. 

I'm wanting to put our lives together, but after a episode with his daughter (2 years ago when she was 17 years old), he is now scared to death of teenagers!  Girls to be specific!  His daughter was caught in a lie, and she ran to her mother.  The mother and her put together a story that accused him of abuse and he had a restraining order placed against him without cause.   

He states now, that if I came to live with him, he is concerned about what my 14 year old could do to his life.  He believes children have more rights than adults in this state (WA).  That if she was truly unhappy about leaving her friends at this point and moving some distance to live in his part of the state, she could make life a living hell for him. He is a good man, but has been a victim of misplaced animosity and had the state turn on him when he required support.   

All a very interesting frame of mind for him, wouldn't you say?  He loves me and cares for my daughter, but is realistic in his approach to children's rights.  But what about us grownups? HUH? I love him and want to be with him, but in alot of ways, understand how he feels and no where in any posts anywhere, have I seen this issue discussed. 

Thank you! 

 
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November 27, 2005, 10:23 pm PST

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When I saw the show on step-parenting, a lot of things rang true with my life & that of a couple of families on the show.  I have a stepdaughter who I have consistently been around since she was 8 1/2 yrs. old.  I also have 2 girls from my first marriage and 1 with my husband now (step-daughters father).  We've been married almost 10 yrs and although I knew things would not be 100% perfect, I didnt think they would turn out the way they have.  Although my 2 girls, one with learning disabilities/disorders & the other extremely introverted, they accepted their new stepdad immediately!  I thought that it would be a problem since they only had me for 6 yrs. to themselves and would have difficulties adjusting to him.  They were 7 & 4 when my husband was killed & had not called anyone else 'dad' in a long time.  They, over the years, have had their separate challenges & at some point within the last 2 yrs or so, began to exhibit defiance or rather not feeling that it wasnt a 'big deal or important when my husband would ask or remind them to do things - they would agree but get distracted doing something else & it didnt get done.  I wont say they never exhibited attitude with him on things but it was far less than what I received from them & his daughter.  I learned later that most of the time they felt that his daughter didnt have to do things or get away with things so that agitation would come out in various ways.  My stepdaughter was really sweet & helpful and lapped up any attention or affection I showed her and even called me Mommy, in the beginning and I always treated her as I would any other child of a friend or family member until she was verbally disrespectful (10 yrs old) 5 mths after her dad & I officially were dating ( I had known him for 2 yrs previously as a friend-plutonically) in front of her dad & it shocked me that he said he understood why she responded the way she did.  I was very upset but contained myself until we were alone & I spoke with him & suggested he talk to her, but then thought that maybe a talk to all the kids about respect & what it means, would be a better idea & not single one person out.  He didnt have a problem with it but once he talked to them & I backed him up supportively.  From that moment on, that little girl changed into someone I didnt know.  I saw the changes immediately in her demeanor but silently I know how kids are & assumed she was just a little upset but would get over it.  Not so, the next day I went on as if normal but noticed that she would stay away from me when we were around & she stopped calling me mommy.  I didnt worry about it, but kept observing and then began to notice that she would find ways to manipulate her father, she often sat on his lap or in between his legs while he sat, often asleep because of his work schedule, & when I would say nicely to her that it was time for bed, she would say she's not sleepy or some other excuse to stay up.  Or she would wake him up deliberately to talk to him etc.  If he fell asleep on the couch, thats where she wanted to stay, if he stayed up, she stayed up.  He would not make her do much of anything the other kids were required to do & in the beginning I knew she was adjusting to her parents being apart (although her mother was really not a mother to her, her father did most things for her & spent the most time with her) etc, and I didnt want to add to that so I would ask him to talk to her about any problems, lack of schedule or structure etc.  I learned years later that if he is not in agreement with me, it would show/or he would say 'I' wanted this or that, not we as their parents - so that didnt help.  Then after we were married I would talk to him more about our initial discussions before marriage about discipline, respect, bounderies etc, that he told me then that we were on the same page with & me needing to have his cooperation were she was concerned because she was his daughter & therefore it was his responsibility to see that she obeyed/cooperated etc as I would do with mine if needed.  5 mths after we married, he began working eve/night shift which left me to care for all the girls doing that time with homework, chores, baths, curfews, time-frames for indoor activities, bedtime etc.  As time went on, I began to get more and more frustrated because she knew that while her father was gone, I couldnt contact him & she would manipulate this to her advantage - stay up late, ignore me, roll her eyes, make inappropriate gestures when she didnt think I could see her, you name it!  I would talk to her & maybe send her to the room but never really disciplined her myself but I had to at least send her for time out or something after a while because she would tell her dad all kind or stories about me treating her unfairly & being mean to her while he was gone even his family for a very long time had/some still have, the impression per her stories, that I was mistreating her too!  THey compensated by taking her shopping or movies (not my girls), take her to the mall (not my girls), let her spend the nilght, (not my girls).  I couldnt believe this child was so manipulative and cunning, she had everyone in her back pocket.  And heaven forbid that if she was asked to go somewhere w/family (his) & one or both of my girls were asked too, she would say she didnt want to go anymore.  With her friends, she would tell my girls that their mom didnt 'know them' and didnt feel comfortable letting them come.  She told my middle daughter that her dads family wasnt my daughters family, just hers.  When my daughter was 8 & she was 10, she would pull evil tricks on her, touch her inappropriately, tie her up (she said in 'play') and whenever I would relay these events to her dad, if he asked her & she said no she didnt, he believed her every time & when his back was turned, she would smirk because she 'won'.  I felt that I was in competition with her & her mom, who was still trying to stay 'close' friends with my husband.  I felt his daughter was his best friend & confidant - when I should be, his ex was 'just a friend' he would do things for when she asked him to - when that was supposed to me.  Jealous?  I would say that if I was or am, its only of how much he does for others when I should be first in his life but I feel like the 3rd wheel.  His ex attended every event held at his siblings houses for 6 1/2 yrs, uninvited.  She would deliberately pull him to the side and talk at length about nothing, she would make sarcastic remarks directed at me in front of everyone or say other harsh things that I really tried to ignore & kept from getting into it with her because my stepdaughters & my kids were usually present too and I didnt want to do anything negative that wouldnt set a good example.  When I would say something to my husband, he would just say 'ignore her' & over the years I felt that he didnt have my 'back' as he claims, at home or with anyone else.  Then he would wonder why I would get stressed when a holiday or something came up & I knew she would probably be there as if that is 'her' family.  Some of the family members saw things but didnt want to get involved or felt it was my husbands place to do something.  His ex would even say if she was asked why she showed up, that 'she can be where ever her daughter is'...  As teenagers, all the girls have had their issues but my stepdaughter still has her father's head in the sand & he continues to be oblivious to her wrong doings:  having boys in the house & using my daughters as lookouts, sleeping with older guys at 15, going to clubs when her dad thinks she's at 'a friends', some of the intimate things she did to guys or had done to her where done at these 'friends' houses when the parents werent there etc.  Even though he's been told, he finds excuses or says that its just gossip etc.  She's lived with us the last five years consistently & before that, 10 mths consistently & 2 yrs, every holiday, weekend, spring break etc.  Her mother always has something better to do or getting evicted from one place or another.  I have been there fore her daughter when she was sick with the flu, wiping her mouth when she vomited, sponged bathed her to get her temp down, taken off work so my husband didnt have to since he made less money than I, when she was sick or out of school, took her to work when she was 'off-track' at school, every holiday & birthday bought gifts for her (when my husband couldnt), helped pick out/purchase school supplies & clothes, bought her things 'just because' , taken her out to lunch or dinner, mall etc basically anything I do for my own kids & she basically hates me!  She told her dad at 11, that she wished he hadnt gotten married & stayed by himself with her.  Another time, that she thought I was only buying things for her to impress him.  When she acts out, she tells people that 'she has issues with me' so they will feel sorry for me, even when things at that time were okay!  Or that she hasnt adjusted to sharing a room w/2 other girls etc.  Now that she is 18, she just recently moved in with her mother because I had given her & my 19 yr. old choices to either stay and be respectful, obey the house rules, help out around the house, go to school/or work or if they wanted to continue to cause problems, not cooperate, lay around and not do anything & not be responsible for their own actions then they needed to make arrangements to leave.  She told me that the rules/respect stuff wouldnt matter because she was moving in w/her mom when her mom got a place that summer.  It took 9-10 mths., but they are both living elsewhere, my stepdaughter only calls for her dad & occasionally says hello if he tells her I'm home, so he thinks she's being polite, when she comes by, its for money usually, she calls him to pick her up/take her places or goes to church with him from her moms place so she doesnt have to come over to see anyone else, she never asks about my eldest daughter who's out of state or try to call.  I hope I made the right decision in this because for years I took the brunt of all the negativity & tried to problem solve as time went on even without my husbands help a lot of the time because he didnt agree.  Incidently, both recently started working which is good I hope as a mother, that things go well in their lives and even though my stepdaughter my never accept, respect or love me, that maybe one day she will at least admit to herself that I loved her thats why I did the things for her, took care of her, taught her things etc, not because I was obligated to, and that even if she never admits it to me, she took some of the values & principles I tried to teach her as well as my own children, and apply them to her (their) life.  Anyone have any comments on how I could have handled things differently?  Have a similar problem?  Was my husband right to back his daughter/help his ex even though I was uncomfortable or felt it was 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November 28, 2005, 10:27 am PST

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Dr Phil says stepparents should be the disciplinarians, but that doesn't mean that they can't enforce the rules set down by the parents, and use the known consequences.  In our house, there are a list of rules on the refrigerator, along with the consequences for breaking each of those rules. Since they are known to everyone in the household, there has never been any problem with my husband saying to one of my children "You broke this rule, so now you have this consequence." If something happens that isn't covered under one of the rules, and I'm not there to set a consequence, then the child is removed from the rest of the family to a safe place for a specified amount of time, which varies with the age of the child, and I set any further consequences when I am there. 

  

You need to expect them to treat you with respect, and you and Dad need to set up consequences for any time that you are NOT treated with respect by them. 

we worked on and implemented a list of their responsibilities and the consequences...it starts today so we'll see what happens but I feel stronger already...more empowered (not in power).  We even added for the adults to stop cursing (hubby is very bad and I have my moments!) and if we 10 times the consequence is we have to pay to take to the movies or rent a movie as a family.  This way it is  a way to involve them and let them see that we make mistakes too as well as the consequence is something that they like not just a punishment as realistically punishing us  was impracticle so this way the punishment is monetary but it is fun anyway! 

  

We also implemented something suggested by someone else on the stepparent show (last MOnday) board -- a sign out board because last week DSS said he told his sister (when he couldn't find me) where he was going but she was mad at him so she wasn't listening!  This way we always knwo where everyone is -- no misunderstandings as well as everyone is accountable.  I even signed daddy out for work (put his cell phone as phoen # and myself for my daoctor's appointment this afternoon so DSD who is babysitting will have the number if she needs me too. 

  

  

 
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November 29, 2005, 7:37 am PST

raised my step daughter sence she was 3

   I have raised my step daughter sence she was three almost by myself.My husband is a truck driver,and the bio mom ran off . My daughter is 12 going on 19 .I have two other childern 2,6 

I live in a small town that doesnt give me much support places to turn to.If any one here has a ear 

and time and knows something about this please email me. 

 
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