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Topic : 08/02 "I Love Myself!"

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(Original Air Date: 04/20/06) Do you know someone who craves attention so badly that he or she will do anything to get it? One family believes their loved one is a master manipulator and her ways are causing a major conflict in the household. Hilary claims she wouldn’t shed a tear if her stepdaughter, Shannon, died tomorrow. She calls Shannon a narcissist and says she will lie, fight and cuss just to be noticed. Shannon feels like a scapegoat, and thinks her stepmother is simply out to get her. When Shannon was younger, her biological mom died, and now she believes Hilary has turned her father and sister against her. Is Shannon’s behavior all an act, or do her father and stepmother need to change how they deal with her? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 20, 2006, 12:50 pm PDT

AMEN...show not about NPD

While I certainly sympathize with those who suffer from NPD...either directly or through contact with someone else, this is NOT a show about that. 

  

Shannon seems like a teenager has been through A LOT.  And the fact that her father & stepmother seem to be ignoring ALL of that, is just ludicrious.  Introducing a sibling, losing a parent, gaining a stepparent ... ALL of that effects a child.  Not only am I a stepchild, but my oldest son is soon to be a stepchild.  And both he and I rebelled like crazy - it is just now starting to look up as far as his behavior.  So it is just ignorant to think that none of that effected the way Shannon acts. 

 
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April 20, 2006, 12:51 pm PDT

About this program

I am totally UNIMPRESSED with the rest of the family.  What else can Shannon do when she's been totally BETRAYED by her FATHER.  Hillary needs to go for serious parenting skills.  I agree Hillary is a problem and the father is a WUSS.  There IS SOMETHING in that environment that turns Shannon into what they consider is a Monster.  I don't think she's that bad.  But she needs to get those grades up.  

Give them therapy.  But the father is LOST.  

 
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April 20, 2006, 12:52 pm PDT

I'm with you!

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The thing that blows me away about this whole deal is that no one seems to grasp is that when you damage a child early on, you come up with these behaviors. When a child is DE-valued by the parent...or becomes "invisible" the damage is so severe that the adult  may never recover.  It took 67 years for me to even half way recover, Ill never be whole, and thats the way it is, Ive reached a place where I'm safe..and after all that damage thats a good thing !  Any parent who lays this "your world less "on a child is beneath com tempt in my estimation.  

  

First, kids have no idea of how life works, its up to the Parent to teach it...some Parents have a habit of saying "Well, you know that"...point is the kid DOESN'T know it ! They were never taught, and thus, they DINT know.  Parent must never assume that a child knows something, unless the Parent teaches, the child does NOT know. 

  

Kids who are left in the dust, or only have a frail grasp  on Family interactions, never fully develop a healthy relationship. Its not their fault, they were taught early on, that they have no value. How can one be expected to develop  normally when they believe they have no value ?  

Women who fall in this crack have so little self that they will grab onto, and hang onto, someone who abuses them. Its all they know, and they have no escape unless something makes Thom realize that they can get out, that they dint want to...or have to ,live this way !  

  

The children of such Parents have no self either, and God only knows where that will lead them. When you have no "Self" your just lost.  

  

The child who finds themselves in Shannon's position is one who really needs to find someone, or something that will separate them from the abuse she is going through. If she cant, the damage will be so serious that surviving it will be almost insurmountable. She knows there is a serious problem that will arrest her development..hopefully someone who saw the show acne help steer her into a Program that will help.  

  

As for the Dad and that woman who says shes a Step-Mom......you BOTH need help !  In my opinion, both need a serious intervention from Family services....ggggrrrrr  

  

 Doesn't it just frustrate and irritate the life out of  you when you see grown-ups(?) who think its the responsilility of the children in the famiiy to get THEIR act together while they can act as rotten as they want and then get all huffy when they are called on to answer for it. 
 
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April 20, 2006, 12:52 pm PDT

Are These People For Real?

They wonder why Shannon has troubles at home - WELL DUH!!! 

  

This is the most rediculous thing i have seen in a long time. She has been rotton since 4 years old?? What is up with that. 

  

There are things that have been done to this girl that I would NEVER do to my child - No matter what!! Parents are in total denial about what is going on - the whole family needs help!! 

 
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April 20, 2006, 12:54 pm PDT

I married a man with a similar family

It was all his "fault" and how they suffered with him and sacraficed for him just to make up for his short comings. Just ask them. They'll tell you. Never mind that when she was pregnant with my husband she told every one that she didn't want the baby. When her husband died she sent her son to military school, for his own good. When we began dating she asked me "What do you want to date him for? What could you see in him?". Former girlfriends said she did the same to them. She didn't want him and was going to punish him for coming into her life. Shortly after we married I convinced his mother to get counseling with her son. She went to 2 sessions and stopped going because she disagreed with the counselor. It was at that point we knew it was a loosing battle and went our own way. He's doing great and is a good husband. He's kind and intelligent. Does he still have issues to cope with. You bet. But getting away from his unnappreciative family was the best thing for his mental health.
 
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April 20, 2006, 12:55 pm PDT

Shame on those parents...

What they did to Shannon was beyond belief. I think there are a number of terms that could be ascribed to them that would easily warrant both of them being dropped off at a behavior modification facility such as the one they abandoned Shannon in but of course they will never be held to account for their abhorrent actions.  

   

My prayer for Shannon is that her sister will open her eyes to the situation and have a loving relationship. I also hope Shannon gets the family she deserves in the future.   

   

This show will hold a mirror to the father and step mother and hopefully, they will finally see themselves as they are.   

   

My son, a sweet and considerate 13 year old watched this show with me and looked at me in disgust once it became clear how mistreated Shannon was and he said, "we should adopt her". If only life were that simple.   

   

Shannon, you are so worthy of love. Please don't give up on your relationship with your sister, she's not responsible for how she's been indoctrinated. Don't let your "parents" words cut you, they have more of a narcissistic disorder than you ever will have.  

 

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April 20, 2006, 12:55 pm PDT

Read This Book!

M. Scott Peck - People of the Lie
 
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April 20, 2006, 12:55 pm PDT

NPD

Unfortunately the show did not go into the particulars of this disorder .. so we did not get the benefit of a Dr. Phil spin on this subject.   

   

On the upside, I feel like Phil maneuvered some incredibly difficult waters for a deeply troubled family.    

   

Nice job, Dr. Phil.  And if you ever do decide to focus an entire segment on NPD, I for one would appreciate hearing your point of view ................   

 
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April 20, 2006, 12:57 pm PDT

CLUELESS

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I read in horror how Shannon's step mother has treated her and how her dad has turned on her. It is clear that not only did nobody help this girl grieve the passing of her mother but they rubbed it in her face by having someone move in and marry her dad within a year.  

  

for the dad ... shame on you for not being there for your daughter and for being the kind of person you are accusing your daughter of being. it is clear your daughter has valid hurt feelings and that you have done nothing but add to her pain.  

  

shannon - the best thing you can do for yourself is to put your nose to the grindstone, do well in school, get a job and move on with your life. know it is not about you, that your dad has failed your miserably and that your step mother doesn't deserve to be a part of your life. your best revenge will be to go on to lead a healthy and prosperous life.  

  

I am angry at the step mother who has been given all power from that WUSS of a father.  I'm sure Shannon is not Good as Gold, but give the kid a break!  She lost her MOM!!!   I hope Shannon can go live somewhere else where someone would teach her GOOD THINGS, not  harp on what she does wrong. 
 
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April 20, 2006, 12:58 pm PDT

the father's wife

I don't feel that the father's wife will agree to participate in the consultations organised by Dr. Phil.  I don't even think she will let her husband participate.  She wants to take Shannon's place also in the father's heart.  I have the feeling that she will try and maybe succeed to discourage the father from attending any meetings with the therapist and his daughter.  I would really much like to see a follow-up on that show, and I pray for Shannon's best interest that I am wrong.
 
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