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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:26 pm PDT

Equal Protection - Period

Look, Dr. Phil missed the point when he said "Who here cares about the baby?" <applause> implying that this movement means that men do not care about the baby. 

  

The point is the same if the man WANTS the baby and the woman decides to abort. The man may CARE about the baby, but he still has NO SAY. 

Both sexes can make mistakes and be irresponsible, but the only gender that is protect from their mistakes and allowed to make choices is the woman. 

  

Yes, the woman carries the baby for 9.5 months, but that shouldn't allow her to make a decision that will impact the man's life for 18 years minimally (the rest of his life actually). 

  

There is either EQUAL protection under the law, or there is not. Here it is clear, There is no equal protection and there should be. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:26 pm PDT

responsibility

I don't think any of those men are even considering the well-being of the children involved or the potentially involved.  Why should he be able to shirk the responsibility.  The woman can't just give up the child without feeling some regret.  Lots of studies show that women don't just have an abortion, give a baby up for adoption, or abandoning them without feeling some sort of regret later.  They are opening a door to some bad territory almost as bad as the territory opened with Roe vs. Wade.  What has happened to accepting adult responsibilities. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:26 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

In regards to that BOY... 

He should be legally resposible for any offspring he produces- whether he accepts it or not!  He made the responsible choice of intercourse and irresponsibly opted not to use protection.  This case is absurd and should be thrown out of the courts because if one does not want children- then they should practice abstinence.  If he does not want a child then it is easy- to not have sex.  I feel bad for the mother of that child because she has to deal with a really ignorant BOY; however, it was her choice to become involved with someone like that.  Anyway, he will never be a man because he can't take care of his responsibilities! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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You betcha!
Didn't the man decide what happened to the woman's body when he got her pregnant? maybe when the man gets pregnant he can decide what happens to his own body... I wonder if your dad's were in either of your lives or if they just walked away
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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Do you have a son? If you do, I hope that this never happens to him  because you may eat your words one day.  

Do you have a daughter, because may happen to her one day
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

dad's have rights too

If this man didn't want a baby, he shouldn't have had sex.  Even if a woman says she is on birth control, if a man doesn't want children, keep it in his pants.  Now the poor baby has to suffer and that is who it's not fair too.  This guy needs to grow up.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

Dance

If you want to dance, sooner or later you have to pay the band.  He made a choice to have unprotected sex and to think that he should decide whether she keeps the baby or not is ridiculous.  This is a woman who thought she could not have kids - did he really expect her to give the baby up or abort it?  Maybe he made a bad choice to have unprotected sex, but it was a choice.  If he choses not to be in this child's life, it shouldn't mean he has no responsibility for her at all. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I can't believe  this guy wants nothing to do with his own child.  Yes, it's not all his fault, but it seemed like the women knew that she was guilty for what happened.  At least she is being mature adult about what happened, and is taking care of her child.  I don't think this guy understands how hard it is for a women to give up her baby either by abortion or adoption.  I think he needs to grow up and be a man and get involved in his child's life.  This little girl is going to grow up knowing that her dad didn't want her or anything to do with that.  And I feel like a dad is a very important part in a child's life. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

Oh my gosh...

I can't even believe this guy!!! I only saw about hte last 2 mintes of the segment,but that was all I needed to see to know that is ridiculous!!! He "chose" to be a father by sleeping with her!! She took the same risk, but took responsibility for it by giving birth and caring for her child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think if this becomes a law it will be a huge mistake. Every guy out there will be saying he " never agreed to be a father"!! INSANE!!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

he made the choice

i think that when a guy chooses to be in a sexual relationship that he should have to take responsibility for his actions. If he gets her pregnant he too has an obligation to take care of that child. he needs to grow up and accept the responsibility and wake up and realize that he has a beautiful daughter and someday he will regret not being a part of her life.
 
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