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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:31 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: btownmommy

I have 2 points of view on this one.  The jerk on this show today should absolutely be financially responsible for this child.  He did not wear a condom.  That was his choice.  He seems intelligent enough to know that if you don't use protection pregnancy is a possibility.  However, if he does pay child support, he then has rights to see the child.  I don't know about the baby's mother but I sure as hell wouldn't want someone with his point of view near my baby.  So if I had to choose between the child support or having that jack ass out of my life, I would say Bonjour Bastard!! 

"I don't know about the baby's mother but I sure as hell wouldn't want someone with his point of view near my baby.  So if I had to choose between the child support or having that jack ass out of my life, I would say Bonjour Bastard!! " 

  

If I were a parent , I wouldn't want you anywhere near my child.  There are many variations of abuse, neglect and responsibility when it comes to children.  One form of abuse is to expose them to inappropriate language.  A responsibility, when raising children, is to teach them how to communicate. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

hello what the heck happened to that little voice in your head.

I am totally against this guy saying that he did not chose to be a father. If you choose to have sex then you are stating to the world that I am ready to be a father or mother reguardless of the statments of the other person. " i am not ready to be a father". " I can not get preg." If you don't want the responsibility go get yourself sterlized. or take birth control if you are a women. I personally think that if you deny or fight the fact that you are responsible for the child in question the goverment should take you in to custody and then take you to a make it so that you can not have any more children. It would save those poor women and men at times from the pain frustration and  will keep the child/ren from feeling as if they were never wanted in life. Matt that little girl is a gift from God. She was put her on this earth for a reason and if you can not accept that well.... then the day will come when your father in heaven will deny you as well and then you will live the rest of your eternal life in a living hell. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

I can see his point...

Though it is true, u have responsibility to the child, I see what he is saying. When a woman gives birth, she has the right to choose to adopt the child out and not become a mother. Yet when a man has a child, he has no choice in the matter, he has got to be a father. This young man wants to exercise the same right the woman has, not to exercise her motherhood.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

rule or law on fatherhood

A man has a right to bare a child or not is is justr like dr phil said USE PROTECTION come on if there was a rule or law that if a man wats to father a child then all men would choose not to a man is just as respsonsible as a woman is or the best way not to become a father if your not ready is NO SEX AT ALL    

   

My boyfriend is trying to be a father to his son like men ar suposed to be but the law or goverment won't let him now come on   

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

Pleasure for the pain.

I give kudos to all women who are single mothers, whether by choice or not.    

  

You'd think this guy would think about the consequences before he had sex.  Just wear a freaking condom.  Even though it isn't 100 percent, at least he would have made that choice.  Until men are pregnant for 9 months with all the puking, aches, pains, and LABOR, I believe they shouldn't have a choice. This complete idiot (a condom costs like 25 cents and it could have saved him thousands in attorney fees!!) should have kept his johnson in his pants and thought about what one little swimmer (sperm) could do to his life.  Granted, she consented to have sex, but she accepted the responsibility to care and love that child.  Think he just needs to grow up and accept the responsibility to at least pay for what one moment of pleasure produced.  Who knows, it might not have been pleasure for her anyway.  

  

Grow up dude- and see what an amazing little girl you have made.  She will make you open your eyes in so many ways.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

Roe Vs Wade for Men

I think that Matt is the ultimate deadbeat dad.  If he was a responsible man and didn't want to have children at this point in his life then he personally would have taken the necessary steps to prevent it.  He can't just rely on her word.  I'm not saying that she wasn't telling him the truth.  I just may have been the truth as she believed it, and unless he had her medical documentation how could he really know, so he wasn't being as responsible as he should have been.  Did he watcher her take her birth control pills daily?  If not then he wasn't being as responsible as should have been. 

  

He seems to have a very cavalier attitute toward life and fatherhood.  He sees the child as an IT instead of the gorgeous baby that she is.  That also seems very irresponsible.  He doesn't seem to have looked at the situation beyond himself.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: narleypig

So what you do not want to be or it wansn't you choice to be a dad, ok fine, Lets see it from another view, Did you go to school, Did you learn what caused a baby, Or are you a drop out that never learned about sex or its results, Everytime you have a sex you have a chance to become a father, you have not on single choice about you have a 50/50 chance, What part of that do you not get.  Now this child is here, and you are the one missing out, i don't give a flying fig about weither it was your choice or not that baby is here, it is your job to help the mother take care of her. I can't beleive you are even saying you are a man, you are not even human.
I am in the same situation about the birth father trying not to become a responsible father it takes two not one since they both made the decision to have unprotected sex then they both should take care of this child that they have together i am also a single mother and the father does not take any responsibility for our child but he should continue paying child support because that is the right thing to do
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

For the father who thinks he was tricked

  

I don't understand his problem.......if they aren't married, and he has nothing to do with the baby, I'm sure he didn't sign the birth certificate, so if he doesn't want to pay, can't he give up his rights.   

  

Next time, keep it in your pants, then you won't have any problems. 

  

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

What a loser

WOW, I can't believe that someone is that naive to think that he is going to get out of being a FATHER, because he didn't 'want' the kid. I feel bad for the kid. Doesn't that guy have a heart? It is his kid, whether he likes it or not. This is your kid...take care of it! That poor kid deserves his parents! Step up and be a man!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:32 pm PDT

sorry dads...

Quote From: narleypig

So what you do not want to be or it wansn't you choice to be a dad, ok fine, Lets see it from another view, Did you go to school, Did you learn what caused a baby, Or are you a drop out that never learned about sex or its results, Everytime you have a sex you have a chance to become a father, you have not on single choice about you have a 50/50 chance, What part of that do you not get.  Now this child is here, and you are the one missing out, i don't give a flying fig about weither it was your choice or not that baby is here, it is your job to help the mother take care of her. I can't beleive you are even saying you are a man, you are not even human.

I AM REALLY DISCUSTED BY THESE MEN! I CANT BELIEVE THE NERVE THEY HAVE! I HOPE WHEN THAT GUY AND HIS EX GO TO COURT THEY LAUGH HIM OUT OF THE COURTROOM!!! HE IS A PIECE OF ****.  HE REMINDS ME OF MY DAUGHTERS DEAD BEAT DAD. HE WOULD LOVE THIS CRAP..."MENS RIGHTS BLAH BLAH...WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SEX HOW WE WANT AND THEN ABORT OR GIVE UP THE BABY CUZ WE DONT WANT IT" WHATEVER!!! I THINK THIS LITTLE ORGANIZATION IS A DOORWAY FOR SORRY DADS. ITS RIDICULOUS! HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT ON THE CONDOM IF HE WAS GONNA BE SUCH AN A** ABOUT A BABY. HES JUST MADE A FOOL OF HIMSELF. HA! I FEEL FOR THE GIRL, BUT MORE POWER TO HER FOR RAISING THAT BABY AND BEING STRONG AGAINST THAT BOYS IGNORANCE!!! 

 
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