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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

That baby didn't have a choice about coming into this world, so the father shouldn't have a choice on supporting that child.  The father should have thought about this before he decided to have sexual intercourse!! Fess up and take responsibilities!!!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

What about the baby?

The very act of intercourse is supposed to be for one reason.  It has always been to reproduce.  If the gentleman on the show wants equal rights and to act like a man, then his first order of business should be to grow up and become responsible.  Try becoming someone that your beautiful daughter can be proud of.  I am a 25 year old single mother and it makes me sick that any man would file a suit like this.  A child is not a burden and that is what this man has portrayed this baby as.  The mother of this little girl is lucky to have her and even if this man never wants to grow up, there is somebody out there who will give her and her daughter all of the love and support that they will ever need. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

Matt, wake up!

Matt needs to wake up and realize that no matter what, he is the father of this child.  He can argue all he wants but the fact remains he has a responsiblility.  He may not have wanted to be a father, but it's a liitle too late for that now since there is a baby and it's his.  I wonder what his parents think about this.  If he was my son I'd be so embarrassed.  Somebody needs to shake him and say wake up, you're missing a very important time with your daughter!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

Hope He Wins

I'm sorry.. but this was a selfish decision made on the spur of the moment by a truly uncaring girl.  I am an "old" lady, but have 2 very vulnerable sons that have had close calls with these selfish girls.  I do not feel that a male should have to pay for the rest of his life when the decision wasn't his to make in the first place.  They are at the mercy of these beguiling females, and I think that in 2006 this practice should end.  Probably would be a WHOLE lot less unwanted pregnancies if this were legally possible.  Because of hormones or emotions, children are born into this world when they honestly aren't wanted, but.... "oh he will love us when the child comes".  NOT FAIR!!!  I don't want grandchildren this way.  To me I feel that if the female takes the final decision into her own hands... then she should be the one 100% responsible for that child once it gets here. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

Role Reversal

I wonder what would happen if the roles were reversed?  What if He wanted this baby and she didn't?  Could he make her have this baby so that he could be the parent?  I doubt he could...  but she can force him to be involved...does that make sense?   

   

In todays society, women do have too many rights VS the rights of men.   

   

If I got pregnant, I would not even have to inform the father to get consent to have an abortion...I wouldn't even have to name the father to give the baby up for adoption....so where does that leave the biological father?  What if he wanted the baby?  Then what?  Where are his rights?  

   

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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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Uh, hold on there stupormom.   Divorced or unmarried men like Matt Dubay are on the hook for 18+ years of child support when a woman has a kid.  How the heck do you think a man comes up with $500 per month for 18 years?  Here a clue -- he uses his BODY to earn that money.   If he refuses, off to jail!

Women, on the other hand, have completed their physical burden after 9 months.  Let's see, 9 months vs. 18 years -- who's got the greater burden?  Who bears greater consequences?

Women get the choices, men get the responsibilities, and that's just how the women want to keep things.  It's about time somebody stood up for equal reproductive rights for men!

Oh...I must be mistaken on the conversation.  I thought the guy was complaining about paying $500.00 child support for the next 18 years.  I had no idea that the mother was suing him to keep the child to end her 'burden' after her 9 months was done.  HAHAHAHAHA!  Note the sarcasm, in case you didn't catch it on the front end.   

Men's responsiblity: keep it in your pants or make the choice to support the child (money or care) 

Women's responsiblity: keep it zipped or make the choice to support the child (money or care) 

If you think $500.00 a month covers what it takes to rear a child in this day and age, WOW, where have you been?  Not just the money, but the time, the patience, the love, the feedings, the nurturing, the teaching.  Must I go on? 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Maybe Matt  should have kepted it in his pants.  Hope he never gets married. ..... His daughters life is probably better without him.. Her MOMMY can date a real man who would love to be her DADDY... Why not sign off his right to the baby, and then when she is older she can see what a loser her dad was... 

  

I was 17 when I had my son, his dad was around till be was about 7mths then says oh it is to hard to rasie him, lets give him up. HELLO, He lived with his mom and dad, wasn't here for the 12 a.m feedings. So I told him to get lost. 14 years later he can't figure out why our son doesn't want to be around him. Plus now he has 3 with his wife and goes around telling people he has 3 kids when actually he has 4. Break our sons heart...  

I met my husband when our son was 13 mths old, he has been his daddy since then. Though there isn't blood between them they love each other like real father and son.. 

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

I agree

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  I think if a man lays down with a woman and she gets pregnant then he should be responsible for the care of the baby.

If he does nto want to be the father to this child.. You are very correct in saying "give up the parental rights, when and if he does that he wont be held respobile for the child............. 

  

I do nto see how any man or woaman can even say no to this or yes to this..  

  

I have had this debate with my ex before if he did not want to be her father, he can give her soley to me, and I will never bother him again.. But he complains all the time and wont give her up.. But hey he made the choice just like this idot did.. he did not use protection.. to stop this from happing 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

The boy has responsibility

When the boy has sex he is engaging in the posibility of future responsibility.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:33 pm PDT

Baby wars

     This is how i feel about this stupid law they are trying to pass.....LOL....Whether or not the girl told him she could have a baby, he gave his right up when he took the chance in not using a rubber or any other form of material on not having a baby.  They however in being so young were very careless and not thinking of consequences in anyway.  He just doesn't want to be a dad or be responsible at all.  Personally i think the baby is better off without him!!!
 
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