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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

Men vs. Women

 Dr. Phil,

Since the world began, men have made the woman responsible for birth control/ or production.  I suppose this is because the woman carries the baby to term and she is responsible for the birth.  Men that do not want children but refuse to use birth control themselves are selfish and shallow.  They are interested more in their own pleasure for the moment and not willing to take responsibility because "it feels better this way." 

 Women that want to "trap" men have been lying and using this line for years, "I can't get pregnant". Men only act stupid when it's convenient for them.  Any other time, they are all about proving to us how smart they are.   I say, "Men, grow up! You will take full responsibility for your actions when you have sex, or you may have to later.  Do you really want to take that chance?"  
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

Another way to short change a child

Sounds to me like another excuse for a deadbeat to neglect their child. Whether or not this was a planned child or not the child is here. Another breathing human who had no choice in being here. What a beautiful little baby and its a shame her biological father wants nothing to do with her. He said that he's never held or been with her. I wonder if he could look at this child and actually hold her and feel the same way? 

I hope that this doesnt make it even more difficult for single moms to get support because he didnt want a child. Most times if its unplanned you dont expect to get pregnant. You try to take precautions to guard against pregnancy, not just have sex because one partner says "dont worry, i cant get(or get you) pregnant.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

It Takes two to Tangle

I would like to know why does the men think he does not have the same choices. When don't they know how babies are made and if they do not want to make a baby then do not have sex or where protection themselves and themen are half way responsible for the outcome nomatter what us woman decide to do with our bodie's.  

  

There are ways to use not only rubbers but also foam. Even if the Girls say they can't get pregnant then you yourself as a male need to protect yourself if they are lying. The men should know better.The men should grow up and realize they are responsible halfway since it takes two to tangle and both should take there own responsibilities of there own. 

  

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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

Deadbeat

I think they teach you in middle school the only 100% effective method is NOT HAVING SEX! My husband and I were done having kids after three and dilligently using birth control every time, but here I am pregnant with baby #4! That's life! Matt is just a loser who doesn't want to part with his money.  He didn't even show any concern about his own child.  His only concern is his mere $500 a month and to say that the mom isn't taking any responsibility is shameful, you can bet she is forking out a lot more than $500 a month to raise a child.  $500 a month isn't even a car payment!  Grow Up Matt!! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

This is a bunch of crap...

Watching the show today made me extremely angry because I am dealing with a person like your first guest in myself and my 3 year old sons life. I myself find it hard to understand how you can take part in the creation of a child and simply turn your back and walk away. At this point the state is still taking child support from him but it is my goal to be financialy independent from him in the future. I believe it will be a better situation when his negative attitude and influence is not in our lives.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:42 pm PDT

Baby Wars - 4-21

I seen the story on Matt who feels he should not be a father and was forced into doing so. First of all, I don't see any foundation to his story if he didn't take any precautionary measures to prevent it from happening.  

Second, as he trusted her, I am sure she entrusted what the Doctors told her when they indicated she would never be able to have children. Although there are two sides to every story, I do not feel as if it was her intention to entrap him in any way, I simply believe that was an event that happened for a reason out of her control....and ultimately it looks as if it will be a strong one. 

Third, I believe she was probably just as shocked to find out she could even conceive a child and it is her body that will carry that child to term which should never be his choice to take away. She decided that since it occurred, it is her duty to care for what God has given her. 

  

There are too many influences in the world attempting to control what ultimatly happens to a womans body and it must stop.... Ultimately, I feel as if this man became upset because something he did not want to happen occurred within his control and he now must fall responsible. However, he is combatting not only his fatherly role but the monetary role that seems most frustrating for him and the only person suffering from this mess is the child. I also believe he is someone who is determined to have things his way and when things went the opposite way, he took it to extremes. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: bwisdom

Why do women get all of the chocies? Yes we ALL know what causes pregnacy and we all know how to prevent it. But WHY IN THE WORLD DO WOMEN GET ALL THE CHOCIES? Yeah, I know... It's your body. Well it's his life also. And no it's not the baby's fault, it's the man and woman's fault. Yet the woman has a choice to have or not have the baby. (Either way the child will be effected. By not having a father or having one who dosen't want him/her.) What if we start thinking about the tables being turned? What if the man wants the baby but the woman wants to have an abortion? What then? If women have choices, men should have choices. We as women want to be equals. We have faught for so long, and are still fighting, for our rights to be considered equals. Yet, we want to have the rules one way when it's in our favor and the other way when it's not??!! We can't have it both ways. We either consider the child a child and treat this child as if it were out of the womb OR we decide it's a choice and it's not a child until post-womb. We can't have both. We can't be selfish just because it's our bodies, just because we're the womb. Either it's a choice or it's not! After that is decided, then if it's a choice the man should have his choice, if it's not a choice and it's a child, then a father he should be able to refuse or use his parential rights! Brandy W, KS
He had a choice......................to wear a condom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That was HIS responsibility......................................................................
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

I agree with the Quote From: minniep25

Quote From: lieven

No, you don't get to tell anyone " end of discussion ". Deal with that. Next, lets see you tell WOMEN to keep their pants on, if they don't want a kid. Uh huh, right, your man hating sexism is so busted. 

And, no, women having kids WITHOUT a willing father are not " adult enough ". Not when they demand 100% of the choice but only 50% ( Or, less ) of the responsibilities of that sole choice. 

" If raising kids is so menial and degrading, why do women fight us so bitterly in court for the  

opportunity to do it ? " Jack Kammer, If Men Have All The Power, How Come Women Make All The Rules ? ", page 92. Jack well knows that your cover of " boo hoo, I have a kid, its so terrible ! " 

is a flat out... lie.  

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! ". 

  

She said it all!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

Matt

I think Matt is being extreemly selfish and immature.  If you think you are mature enough to have sex you need to be mature enough to face the consequences.  They both made their "choice" when they decided to have sex.  He's just lucky that his daugter has a mother who loves her and recognizes how special she is.  If Matt actualy does have another child "when he's ready" he is going to have a tough time explaining why that child is worth it when that beautifull little girl isn't.  He obviously never learned what it is to be a REAL man. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

BE A MAN.

For the guy who wants to put up a big dispute on the Roe V. Wade, come on now get real. You can't honestly sit there and say all the things you are saying. You did have a choice, WHERE A CONDOM/NOT HAVE SEX OR GO WITHOUT WITH THE RISK OF GETTING PREGNANT. Its plain common sence. You went with the possibility of getting her pregnant. And ya know what not just getting pregnant but maybe you should wear one all the time for the sake of others, do you know how many STDs and stuff are out there? No matter what she says ya know medically they say she cant get pregnant or whatever ya know she still is female still has ovaries and still is producing. And as far as choices go ya know we all can tell the big thing is that you dont want to pay child support thats fine ya know it just shows what kind of "man" you are. And trust me it doesnt show much. And if the money to you is that big a deal and you are that selfish then SIGN YOU DAMN RIGHTS OVER! Do you know what that means? You would rather pay all this money on lawyer fees and everything else then pay for an innocent child that did not ask to be here. I am sorry but regardless what anyone says to make that beautiful innocent child TAKES TWO! Im sure she didnt climb up on top herself and make it on her own. Wear something if your not man enough to take responsibility. Now think about it you have the choice to sign your rights over, but guess what she is doing it all on her own. She wasnt expecting to have a child but guess what it happened and now she is being grown and taking responsibility for her actions, maybe you should think of that instead of just thinking of yourself and being arrogant. Think about things next time. You did have a choice, but did not choose to use it. Your fault.  

 
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