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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

baby wars

For the guy that wanted a say in his baby being adopted/aborted, all he has to do is sign away his parental rights!
How hard is that?
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I can't even imagine what that guy was thinking!  He had the nerve to say men should have the same rights as women give me a break, men dont have to carry a babie for 9 months be sick, feel awful and then have to be in labor for hours,  so no men should not have the same rights.  He should have protected himself and not got in bed with this women, even if she told him that she couldnt have kids that is his own fault for being stupid!!  What about all these babies that are brought up with no fathers does he not even think about that!  This is just a way for him and that other  stupid man and his dumb orginazation to get there name out there!!!  How stupid get over it and take that beautiful little girl and tell her how much you love her.
in a fairytale world  that would be Ideal.  but this isn't likely  so it cant be healthy to try to force a child & parent to falsely bond
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

Relenquishing rights?

My question is this:  If Matt gives up his rights to the child, is he still financially responsible?  If not, why doesn't he just give up the rights for the child?  If he doesn't because he may eventually want to be a part of the childs life, what choice does the mother have? He's basically saying then, "I may eventually want to be a parent, but I don't want to take the responsibility now, so I'll just wait until it's good for me!"  A mother though, may have the choice to abort or give the child up for adoption, but can't change her mind when she's good and ready.  If he's not willing to give up his rights and wants to keep his options open for later, he needs to step up the the plate, be a man, and help support the child he helped create!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

He was man enough to have sex with her... So he should be man enough to help take care of this baby.... How does he know that she didn't lie about not having kids... Maybe the Doctors and the test were wrong... That does happen.... I just want to tell him to his face be a man and help...  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

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I'm a married man that was living with my wife before marriage and had a child. I didn't feel I was ready to be a father at first was scared and nervous. but I stayed around I chose to take the chance and I feel that its not my right to tell her that she has to do anything to her body. and I feel that the mind is part of the body and for me to say hey you have to give this kid up is violating her just as much as if she said I am giving the kid up you have no say is to me. I feel that if you take the chance you take the responsibility. I think more people and I do mean people not men or woman people need to take the responsibility of there actions and live with the consiquinses  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

baby crying

Are you people insane or simply cruel.  Does the term "Crib Death" mean anything to you?  

  

I can understand the parents not wanting a child in bed with them, but a BABY?  

I had no problem with my kids.  1. When they were tiny (nb - 7 or 8 months) they were in their crib right beside my bed.  Gradually I moved each one out.  It took me ~a month or two.  I left their door open and the light in the hallway on.  They could hear me.  If they were very upset, I went to them.  

  

2. I would NOT let a baby cry for even one hour, let alone any longer than that.  AND I would never even think of letting a nursing/bottle baby alone in a room with the door closed.  My second born would stop breathing occasionally thoughout the night.  I would wake automatically and rub her back through the crib slits and she would start breathing again.  How could anyone do that if the baby was in another room with the door shut?  

  

3.  As for the pacifier fights I've witnessed...I just don't know what to say.  I gave my kids a pacifier and when I needed a few moments to warm up something for them or they were simply overtired, I would make sure they had it.  At 8 months each, my kids threw the pacifier across the room and refused to ever have it again.  I know, I was a working mom and I tried to give it back to them, no go.  

  

My kids are healthy and have kids of their own.  I have no complaints about their behavior, especially when I see what other familys go through.  

  

Honestly people, most animals know how to raise their offspring, but humans??????????  

  

As for listening to doctors, don't you have a mind of your own?  Use some common sense!  My doctor I listen to when I need medical advice.  When my doctor (unsolicited advice here) told me to bottle feed instead of nurse, I told him um hum,,,,yeah and then went home and nursed.  I honestly don't know how bottle feeding moms do it...stumbling around in the night, knocking into things and by the time the bottle is warm, the kid's asleep and the mom is awake.  It's soooo much easier nursing, just turn over and grab the kid.  My heart goes out to those moms who can't nurse. 

  

  

  

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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As a mother, I find it appauling that this man was lied to about the potential of pregnancy.  It appears to be outright deception and dishonesty on the women's part.  He should have no obligation to be forced to be a part of this child's life in a financial, emotional or physical manner.  The choice was clearly made by the women involved and therefore she should take full responsibility for her actions.  She must realize that one can not force anyone to be a parent.  

  

 I hope that the unique approach by the attorneys will enable men to have rights equal to ours...aka the right to decide when or if they become a parent.     

I disagree that she must have misled him.  I too was told that I would not be able to have children due to a tumor on my pituitary gland.  Sure enough though, three months later I was pregnant.  I never misled my husband.  I gave him all the info that I had and he made the choice to not wear protection.  Thank God he saw it as the miracle that it was and today we are happily married with two great children!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

Mother standing up for Dads

Here's the flip side of the coin. What about fahters who want to be dads but as another member stated, can't pay the pimp fees to see his children?   

   

Woman can't legally keep fathers away from their children but they do all the time due to arrears owing. New relationships. Or just plain moodiness. This to is wrong. NON- EQUAL RIGHTS!  

   

As a former single mother of twelve years I am at liberty to say the following about women: if you can't afford to raise a child on your own then you should not crawl into bed in the first place, never ever expect a man to either pay or help raise a child should you get pregnant but if he should choose to have a relationship with that child you can't and shouldn't make him pay to be a parent.  

   

If Matt doesn't want to be a "Dad" and there's a difference between dads and fathers than he shouldn't have to be. (anyone can be a father but it takes a real man to be a DAD) He should be able to give up his parental rights just like a mother can. EQUAL RIGHTS!  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

i agree with matt!

i am a mom & think matt is absolutely correct.  the men have no say-so in a pregnancy - except to "pay-up".  if he made it perfectly clear to the baby's mother that he was in no way ready to become a father & she still persued a sexual relationship, she then takes on full responsibility of a possible pregnancy.  in her letter to dr. phil, she stated that she will take responsiblity and provide for the child both now & in the future - then why is she running to the courts forcing the "sperm donor" to "pay-up"?  if she made the decision to raise the child, then she should be the one meeting all the baby's needs.  sounds like to me she is wanting a "free ride" at matt's expense.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:43 pm PDT

This guy is so stupid he shouldn't be allowed to go outside by himself!!!

 This guy is so ABSOLUTELY DUMB!!!   I can see why he doesn't want to assume the responsibility of being a father; since he is obviously a HUGE BABY himself!!!  He has created a baby by "doing the deed" and is not willing to accept any responsibility for it!  Who loses here?  It is the baby and the mother, yet again!  When are men going to learn that they helped bring a life into this  world and they are a father now!  They willingly had sex and he should have known there is ALWAYS a possibility of pregnancy occuring!  What a moron!!!

I personally think all fathers who are not willing to accept their responsibility for being a father ought to be CASTRATED!!!!  Drastic, yes!  But wouldn't some of these idiots think twice about dropping their pants if they knew they might have to get a job and support a child??
What a sweet, sweet baby he has created and the father is definitly the LOSER here------ in more ways than one!!!

This guy is so DUMB; he's even going on national TV and sharing his absolutely STUPIDITY with the world!

GEEZ!!!
 
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