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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 7:27 am PDT

Matt needs to take responsibility for his actions!!

It's really very simple!  If you really don't want to be a father then DON"T have sex!  Take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to blame others for the consequences of your actions! 
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:27 am PDT

Baby Wars...

I think that he should have used a condom.  As Dr. Phil said, young people tend to rely on the here and now, and not what the future will bring.  Using a condom gives the man his own control, while she is also using birth control gives her the same.  I have two issues with this situation.  1).  why is it always up to the woman to use birth control; and  2).  why blame one one another for a bringing a beautiful child into the world?  I think if men could bear children, this would not even be a topic.  I'll take that baby if he doesn't want to claim her as his child.
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:27 am PDT

That guy needs to get a grip on reality

That guy matt needs to get a grip on reality and stop thinking about himself. I thought it was sick how he does not want to even meet his beautiful baby girl.. how could any REAL Man do that. As the old saying goes it takes 2 to tango... She may have had problems getting pregnant but that never ruled out the possiblity of it happening.. I think matt needs to grow a pair and step up and be a real man and be a father to his baby girl.. I am not a father myself but i have alot of respect for women and their ability to be mothers and carry the child so in my opinion is yes they deserve more rights than the father.
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I think that when the women told him that she could not get pregnant, it gave him the false security that he would not have to be a father.  This is her fault and I side with the guy on this one.  Strange things happen, but he should not have to deal with them if he doesn't want to.  If it were me there is no way I could leave that beautiful baby or that sexy women.  But I think that is his right to choose!!
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

What is wrong??

                   What? Well duh, the women have choices, they are the ones that have to carry the baby for 9 months, give birth, and breast feed it. The women do it all!! That man, i shouldn't even call him a man because he isn't even man enough to step up and be a father! That makes me sick. How immature, and disgusting.!
 

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April 21, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I just happened to catch the show right before the break!  The lawyer for the young man that doesn't want to be a father is a complete misinformed idiot!  His comment "People were concerned about ripple affect of ROE vs WADE.  That many children would be aborted... and that hasn't happened!"  WHAT?  Does he not realize how many THOUSANDS of children have been aborted since ROE vs WADE was instituted?  How many men and women have used this as a way to erase their "mistakes?"  He and his client's pursuit of this lawsuit is selfish and reckless.  If he wins, then basically what the judicial system is saying is... YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS!  It's called learn to read and use a condom! Wait you don't even have to read, you can just use the pictures!  GROW UP and take responsiblity for your actions. We have enough men running around acting like children they don't need a legal precedent giving them permission.  However, in the long run, perhaps this child would be better off not knowing a man that never really wanted him and is a selfish egotistical _______!  I am so thankful that I married a man not a __________! (you can fill in the blanks!) 

I am with you on saying WHAT??? to his comment!!! I thought that maybe I had heard him incorrectly when I heard him say that. Then again, the number isn't really thousands, it's probably hit the MILLION mark by now!   

   

I am at home now with my 9 week old baby girl. She is the second unplanned daughter that I have. I am not married, but live with the youngest's father. Neither of us planned to have her, but because we CHOSE to have sex, we had to deal with the result of that choice. I feel that when you CHOOSE to have sex, you have to do it with the realization that a child could result. Not only pregnancy, but there are so many STD's now that pregnancy is almost getting off easy. Your consequence could be death!! This guy talks about how the mother "lied" and said she couldn't have children, but how many people that have an STD admit it to the person that they are sleeping with? I'm sure that very few do.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

Roe v Wade for Men

I think Matt is correct in saying that he should be able to opt out of being a parent to his baby.  Im not saying that all men should, like dead beat dads, but that girl lied to him and I think she was trying to trap him.  I am a woman and sometimes I get tired of hearing about equality for women, but what about equality for men when it comes to parenthood?  A man has no say in if a woman gets an abortion, gives the baby away, but he does have a say in adoption. Why not everything else? 
 

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April 21, 2006, 7:28 am PDT

Equality

For those of us who are Pro-choice and believe that a woman is entitiled to make a decision whether or not she choses to become a mother at whatever time in her life should find the same common thread in the philosophy of the man who choses not to become a father at this time in his life.  It is the same argument.  He is forced against his will to become a father ... and the same would be true if Roe v- Wade should ever be overturned.  It just does not seem fair that he should not be given the exact same freedoms.  I hope he wins this legally (or brings it to popular discussion) for himself and all pro-choicers out there !  

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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

baby wars

if any law decides that men have the right to choose...they will choose first of all to have lots of unprotected sex and than choose to put all the responsibility on their partners.They do it now,demanding paternity tests and slandering the woman with false charges of sex with many partners.i often wonder how many men do have children that they don't even know about,thinking it was just a one time deal. We found out after my father died that he fathered 2  children with 2 other women all the while he was married to our mother for the whole 43 years til he died.Men need to take responsibility in birth control.Wear the condom.get a vescectomy if they feel like they will never want a child.Don't have sex if you can't accept the consequences and that does not just mean having a child,it could mean you get a lot worse like a life changing STD.
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

Choices

Seems to me we all have a choice when we step into the bedroom.  The choices stop the moment a baby is concieved and responsibility steps in.  Man or woman.  Should you not wish to concieve a child then don't have sex.  Abortion is a cop out on responsibility.  There are thousands of couples, desperate to concieve, give them a chance.
 
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