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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

why shoul men be able to opt out of parenthood?

I was watching Dr. Phil today and I was very disturbed to see that a young man was trying to say that he wasnt considering his self a father to HIS child because he did not have a choice. He should not be able to sue over having to pay 500.00 a month child support. How does he think HIS child will feel when she grows up and someone shows her a tape of this show? He is  a jerk and needs to take responsibility for his own actions. He did lay down and he did penetrate this woman with sex. She in return got pregnant with HIS child and he should step up and be a man. I think he is just trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. He needs to be punished for even thinking, much less saying that he is not a father. Maybe the precious little girl is better off.  How would he feel if his dad done this to him? Always remember what goes around comes around. He will reap what he has sewn...
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

Makes me sick!!

This makes me so sick!!!  The man that thinks he should have a say in it. I do not agree that he shouldnt but I do not feel his point is good enough. I was 15 when I got pregnant with my son. My point of view then was I knew what I was doing when I was having sex and I knew that I could get pregnant. I dont care what his gf told him about not being able to get pregnant. Everyone should know that sperm plus and egg can possibly equal a pregnancy.  It makes me so sick to see that he just wont have anything to do with the baby. I think he is selfish and needs to think twice before having sex! 
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: lieven

Thats the EXACT argument against abortion. So, are you consistant enough to demand that women: " then don't have sex and take chances or go get an operation " ? 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

  

  

Of course that is the answer for both men and women...if you are not ready for the big responsibilty (because accidents do happen and it is noone's fault) then don't have sex.  Of course the rights of both the mom and dad ended when they got pregnant with  the child.  Now the rights of that baby is more important then either the mom or the dad.  Can't be selfish if you have a baby and can't whine later if you do the deed and an accident occurs.  

By the way that child is a gift from God to be cherished.  In the end there are no such things as accidents. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:29 am PDT

Baby wars

Unfortunately, most men in this world do not want to take the responsibility of preventing pregnancies.  I have three daughters, and I have preached to them that they have to be the one that is prepared when they have sex to prevent a pregnancy.  They need to make sure they have condoms and are on birth control because most of the time, the men are not prepared.  It is not right but that is the way it is.   

  

The men want to have the fun but then they don't want to step up if a pregnancy comes about.  I am hard on my daughters with this issue, and maybe I should not be because it does take two to make a baby, but when the pregnancy happens (and hopefully that's the worst thing that happens with unprotected sex), the girl is the one who has to make all the decisions and possibly raise a child on her own. 

  

Men need to step up and realize that they are just as much a part of the prevention of a pregnancy as the woman is, but when that baby is conceived and is in the woman's body, they should not really have the right to say that they want to give the baby up for adoption or whatever other choices there might be. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

HELLO!

Heres some advice, if you do not want a child do not have sex at all. Unless you are ready to except the consiquenses of your actions do not perform the actions. It was not right for the women to lie to the man about her inability to have children, I agree with that. But, there is always a chance of something happening. It was their chioce not to use the condom and that was the choice he made. That was him having a chice about the baby. Everything else is up to the women. She has to carry and delivery the baby.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

Matt has issues

Matt chose to have unprotected sex and knew or should have known that was the chance he was taking.  Matt you need to take responsibility for the life you created and be a father to your daughter.  It will be the best thing you ever did.  If you don't then years down the road you will regret that your child doesn't know you.  If her mother chooses to tell her about you and what you have done then at the very least she will resent you in the end.  And who knows, this could be the only child you ever father.   

  

I myself was surprised by a pregnancy that I wasn't sure I was ready for.  I was married for a very short time before I found out and my husband knew that he wasn't ready to be a father.  We had unprotected sex and knew the risks we were taking.  That surprise that came into our lives is now 10 years old and the best thing that ever happened to us.  He is a joy to have around.   

  

Matt don't lose out on what could be the best thing to ever happen to you. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

"If you don't want a baby, don't have sex"

To answer this affirmation, which is stupid when used as an accusation of women against men, let me quote Ken Wilber in "A brief history of everything," page 4: 

  

Regarding the strength of Testosterone, which makes it much more difficult (but not impossible) for men to abstain from sex: 

  

"And males are saddled with this biological nightmare almost from day one, a nightmare women can barely imagine (except when they are given testosterone injections for medical purposes, which drives them nuts. As one woman put it, "I can't stop thinking about sex. Please, can't you make this stop?") 

  

Men:  I've tried continence (no ejaculation) for six months. It can be done. One actually feels great emotionally when doing this. But my ultimate wish is Marriage with the right woman, and a family. 

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

babies caught in the middle

  Having sex is not only for pleasure, it is for creation. You should never trust anyones word becausethey could be mistaken, and the impossible can happen!!! You should always protect yourself from the impossible!!! It is not that hard!! I have a baby girl as old as Matts'. My whole world revolves around her! My boyfriend didn't want her and pushed till I went to the abortion clinic, fortuantly i was too far along! She has changes both of our lives for the better, cause now we are both supporting her and trying to make a difference for her future! And I think Matt should do the same! You may not love the mother of your baby, but be there to support her, even though she was unwanted!! She is your responsibility!! Do not leave another child unwanted by their father!!! Mine did to me, and I lost out on a lot, and so will she! She needs your support and love!!!  

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:30 am PDT

MONEY IS THE ONLY ISSUE AT HAND

This man is angry about the money involved and he made that plain in the beginning.  When you play a game like sex you know the rules of the game.  The child is here,and because this man will not deal with his child he now goes to the media to try to keep his money.  The one guy does not even have children.  This child will know that her dad fought against supporting her and does not want her.  That alone is a crime.  What kind of man does that?  I am so thankful though that he is getting the media involved as now for all of his life we can know what kind of person he really is. 
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:31 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: flmom38

First, I do not believe in abortion.  But, if women have the right to have an abortion or give a child up for adoption and decide not to be a parent then why should men not have the same right?  If a man says I don't want this baby abort it, but the woman chooses to keep it then let her.  Now, all this said, I don't think that either of them have that right to abort it  but if women want to have that choice decision then why shouldn't men have it too?  Women, fair is fair!   

  

PS I am a woman. 

You do have a point. Now here is another one what about the men who tell the women if you get pregnant I won't leave you I will be there for you and our child then the moment she gets pregnant it's this baby isn't mine you are a whore and you have slept with every Tom Dick and Harry around. Then he says abort it and the woman doesn't the baby is proved his and there you go. That happens a lot. Men just say those things to get in her pants and once they do and the obvious happens they want to run because they don't want to pay child support. I have no sympathy for this man if he did not want a baby he should have never done what 100% of the time causes one. There is no such thing as a 100% effective birth control device other than abstinence. He seems like an intelligent enough man. Child support isn't about the person you had sex with but the person you produced because of having sex.
 
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