Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

Please make your points without name calling.  

And FWIW, Purplepain is a well respected member of these boards.  She did change her view on this issue the next day.  But regardless of her position, she doesn't deserve to be called names.  

I cannot belive this guy is serious.  Lots of people don't plan to have children at a certain but things happen that are out of our control.  I have a friend whose tubes were tied 4 years ago and she become pregnant.  The prrganancy was tubal but that wasn't discovered till after she had several tests that would have harmed the fetus.  She was asked before the tests if she was pregnant and of course said no. 

While this young man may not want to be a father right now and is unhappy because the female gets a choice and he doesn't perhaps he needs to realize the differences between men and women and their bodies.  A man doesn't have to carry a child for 9 months and under-go major changes physically and emotionally.   

The most important thing here is the child.  Maybe she would have rathered to choose someone else to be her father but she wasn't given a choice either.  I think Matt needs to accept that the baby is here, provide for and love her.  Maybe baby Elizabeth she have a choice to not have Matt as her father.  Just as women can choose abortion, adoption, abandonment - Men want to choose to not have the child - What choices does that innocent little life have in all this??? 

I think this is the most rediculous excuse I have heard. I am a single mom, and I do think if some law is passed, just like Dr. Phil mentioned, would open the door to alot of dead beat dad's. I don't care if the girl said that she couldn't get pregnant, and she was on the pill. Take a little respondsablity for god sakes for your actions. Men don't have any options, OH YES they do!! They can just walk away, just like he is trying to do. What kind of option does a woman have? The guilt of killing your unborn child, or giving it away!! Just because you didn't put a condom on... GET A LIFE,  and I hope the courts see what a joke this is..  

 Jennifer in North Carolina  

I'm mad, I don't regularly watch Dr. Phil but I saw a commercial for this episode yesterday and I just had to watch it. 

If you don't want to have kids, don't have sex. Or if you're gonna have sex, use protection! Condoms aren't 100% foolproof. Nothing in life is. I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Life isn't always fair, you don't always get what you want but you have to roll with the punches. 

I've struggled with depression for about 4 years now, I didn't choose that, but I've come to accept that it is a part of my life and figured out the best way to deal with it and continue to move on in the life the best I can. 

You didn't want her to get pregnant, but she did and she had the baby. Deal with it. Stop embarressing the male gender. 

I'm 21 and I'm more of a man than these guys are. Quit your whining, act your age, step up to the plate and be a man. Take responsibility for your actions. 

And to the mother: He's not the type of guy you should want in your child's life, he's not the right role model. I would want to keep the baby as far away from him as possible. 

I can't believe a grown man not knowing how to not be a father.  Condoms are cheap - abortion is not.  Surely he knows that whenever he has unprotected sex, pregnancy is a possiblility.  To say he has no control over the possibility  of  fathering a child when he stubbornly refuses to take the right step to prevent it, then he must be at least  responsible for cost of rearing the child.  As Judge Judy tells the deadbeat fathers, if you don't want children, "keep your zipper up."