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Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 7:40 am PDT

Men dont have to give birth!!

I think that Matt is a self centered jerk.  There is a beautiful little girl that didnt ask to be brought into this world and all he can think about is himself.  I dont think that any man should be saying that he should have the same rights as a woman when it comes to having a child. The man only has to have one night of sex and the woman has to do the rest!  We have to take care of ourselves and watch what we eat and do for 9 months to ensure a healthy baby, change our whole lifestyle, not to mention the long labor pains and delivery of this child, support it and take care of it no matter what, then you have these men who think they deserve to have a say?? When you do what us women have to then you can have one but until then keep it in your pants!!!!  And stop acting like a child yourself and be a man. You were man enough to sleep with her now step up and take care of your child. They are not going to let you off the hook that easily! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:40 am PDT

Father = Sperm donor

   If this man doesn't want the responsibility of being a father to his child, why should we as Americans force him?  That's fine.  Don't pay child support, but the courts should MANDATE him to sign a legal and binding document barring him from any and all access with his child for her entire life.  This would protect the mother from his growing up one day and deciding to be a father to his child, when she (the child) is no longer a "burden" to him.     

(By "burden", I am referring to how most men consider infants, toddlers, and children.  They consider kids a burden that they do not feel obligated to control, and most of the time, rely on the mother, or someone other than themselves, to handle.)   

    This binding legal document should ban the father from realizing at some point that he is a dirt bag and owes his daughter something.  Too bad, so sad, you lose, DAD!   

     So, I say, treat him like a sperm donor...take away any and all legal rights for the child's lifetime!  It is not the child's loss, or the mother's loss.  It is the father's loss.  Fighting over this in the courts will only create memories that the child does not need to learn about when she is grown.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:40 am PDT


How could you be so BLIND MATT??? You had sex, nobody is ready to have kids and HALF OF AMERICA DOESNT WANT KIDS!!!! but they have them!!! YOU ARE LUCKY to have the mother of your child that WANTS YOUR CHILD!!!! She however is terribly unlucky to have had ANY RELATIONS to YOU! YOU WONT GO ANYWHERE WITH THIS BUT DOWN!!!! imagine being your son and having YOU AS A FATHER!!!! That is only what you deserve happen to you! Maybe you would change your mind if you werent so SELF CENTERED and COULD think about YOUR POOR BABY BOY growing up without a FATHER instead of WHOA IS ME!! CRY ME A RIVER MATT..... LIFE ISNT ALWAYS PLANNED. U are horrible
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

Waiting for the world to grow up!

Yes sometimes things happen that we don't want to... Yes sometimes condoms and birth-control don't work and believe it or not Doctors make the wrong diagnose.  GROW UP!  Life is full of consequences of our behavior.  If you choose to have sex you make a consensual consent to maybe have a child, maybe get a disease and yes maybe have to finally GROW UP!  I am tired of hearing about these ridiculous people out in this world crying because your life is over... having a baby isn't ending your life, having a baby is hard work yes, but NEVER ending your life... just making a new one with a wonderful new friend in it.  I say if you want the choice to not be a parent better make sure you think twice before you consent to sex!  Stop wasting our time and energy on your selfish and self centered behavior!  GROW UP! 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

Mom is right!!

 I am totally against abortion and if you jump in the sack with someone, be prepared to deal with the consequences--- a baby!!  I do find it odd though that when mom wants to abord the baby, it is ok.  If dad does not want a part of it,  he still has to pay the money for child support.  That I do find weird but the law is totally messed up to begin with.  I got pregnant 3 weeks after my husband and I got married (AND I WAS ON BIRTH CONTROL!!) and when I saw my daughters heartbeat on the ultrasound machine when she was 7 weeks old, I KNEW it was a life!  And if that man saw his child and actually held and played with her, he would see that also and want to be apart of her life.  Something happens to a person when they hold a child, when they hold THEIR child!  Their life is never the same.  

 

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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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You do have a point. Now here is another one what about the men who tell the women if you get pregnant I won't leave you I will be there for you and our child then the moment she gets pregnant it's this baby isn't mine you are a whore and you have slept with every Tom Dick and Harry around. Then he says abort it and the woman doesn't the baby is proved his and there you go. That happens a lot. Men just say those things to get in her pants and once they do and the obvious happens they want to run because they don't want to pay child support. I have no sympathy for this man if he did not want a baby he should have never done what 100% of the time causes one. There is no such thing as a 100% effective birth control device other than abstinence. He seems like an intelligent enough man. Child support isn't about the person you had sex with but the person you produced because of having sex.
There is such thing as a 100% effective birth control, keep your legs closed, just say no
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

Doesn't want to be a father?

The rules are as follows:   

   

1- Don't have sex until after marriage. God said to wait, if they  would have done that then they  wouldn't be in this spot now. It does take "two" to make a baby.   

   

2- IF you get in this type of situation then own up to it and take care of "your child."  

   

I wonder if his dad wanted him or if he would rather of disowned him. Maybe he will disown him now. That baby is his grandaughter.  

   

OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKE(?)  

   

As they say... "YOU PLAY, YOU PAY."  

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

I agree with Matt

 I agree with Matt. I am a woman and I think IF she told him not to worry and she couldn't get pregnant and HE told her he didn't want to be a Father then she took the decision out of his hands. Why should he use a condom if she told him he didn't need to..COME ON LADIES!!  What man is going to wear a condom if we tell him he doesn't have to -  that there is no risk!!  If we're not ready  for motherhood we really do have more control over that decision..we say " no not unless you wear a condom"..he wasn't ready and possibly she decided for him..maybe SOME men really do have a vaild point on their side and they should be heard. Hopefully a reasonable balance can be established for all of the kids out there who are born into this situation and they are the ones that really suffer..
 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

OMG

Quote From: lieven

Whats really best for a baby ? How about TWO willing parents ? When a single woman " oopsies " a man, her action is *already* going against whats best for the child, so at that point, NO such woman has any standing to pimp out the child for money from someone who never got their own choice to say " No ". 

But, the quoted person's argument is *exactly* the same argument for the banning of abortion. 

Funny how flushing fetuses down drains is OK, but not paying a woman who had the ONLY choice 

to bear a child is evil ? Talk about Double Standards ! 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ". 

If men aren't willing THEN KEEP YOUR PANTS ON!!!!!! if you don't want a baby that badly keep your lil snake in YOUR PANTS. Im judging from your comments you have a child outta wedlock and you weren't ready. well let me tell you one thing HONEY.  If you kept your pants on you wouldn't have a problem.  END OF DISCUSSION. EVERYONE KNOWS THE RISKS WHEN THE CRAWL INTO BED.  I have a child out of wedlock and his dad wasn't ready but that is not the childs FAULT.  Yes he pays child support waaaaaaaaa but I get up in the middle of the night I take care of our son when Im hurt, sick, and tired! I have a full time job IM IN THE MARINES and I run 3 miles before I go to work and its very hard for me.  Yes it would have been easy to give him up for adoption but I knew "SEX = BABIES" AND IM WOMAN ENOUGH TO OWN UP TO MY RESPOSIBILITIES My life has changed completely upside down but do I whine because of it NO!!!!!! Cry me a river you have to write a check but you don't have to be a father, if you don't want to be, send a check and do nothing else.  if you don't wanna do send a check, then sign over all your rights.  Im SO SICK OF WOMEN BEING MADE OUT TO BE GOLDDIGGERS because we are ADULT enough to own up to our responsibilites when stuff happens and then ask for the man to do the same.  MEN ACT LIKE COWARDS AND TURN THEIR BACK ON THE SAME WOMAN THAT THEY JUST GOT OUT OF BED WITH.  so here is a man's choice GROW UP BE A MAN OR KEEP YOUR PANTS ON   

   

My son's father loves his son.  We get along.  He knows that out of the situation I have it harder than him.  We both love our son unconditionally.  Our son has a happy healthy life and couldn't ask for more.  It seems like it would be his best interest to have to parents that are together but you can make it work being apart too.    

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:41 am PDT

Rights?

Doesn't the father have the option to sign his rights away?????  This is the most selfish man I have ever seen?  I want Dr.Phil to meet his parents!!!!!!!!!!  

 
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