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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 4:30 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I believe that, yes things do happen when you do not want it to happen.  But regardless they both laid down and they both need to take care of the child.  If he did not want to have a child yet he should as my mother says " keep his pecker in his pocket". 
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:30 pm PDT

People need to take responsibility for there actions

You know this really bothers me.  I understand that he said that he didn't want to be a father right now in his life.  So does this mean that if he said that he never wanted to kill anyone and then got in a car and hit and killed someone, does that mean that he doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions.  It should not matter if she said that she could not get pregnant she did so they both should hve to live up to there responsibility for there actions.  What if she told him that she was 18 and then it turned out that she was only 16,  would that mean that since she told him that she was 18 that oh it is ok he will not be prosecuted for statitory rape.  He needs to step up and be a man, because no he is not a man he is a little boy.  He needs to step up and take responsibility for his actions.  Just to let you know I am a man so not all men are heartless and some of us are good guys.
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:30 pm PDT

Are KIDding me?

Sex has consequences whether we like it or not. The guy on the show said that their goal was to allow men to have the sexual gratification without the reproductive consequesnces. Sex= Possible pregnancy! It has been that way for millions of years deal with it!!!  Its like speeding. If you want to speed you know there is a chance that you will be stopped and get a ticket. You constantly look both ways for cops....knowing that consequence! Sex is the same. If you lay down in bed then you better be ready for that possibiliy of the stork coming to your front door.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 4:30 pm PDT

I agree

Dr. Phil, 

  

I think the men should be able to decide whether they want a child or not.  I think if this was the case, women or young girls would not trick men into becoming father to try and keep them.  I know this sounds strange but I know girls that say that there going to get pregnant by a man so he will have to take care of her.  Also I have heard girls fake pregnancies and abortions to get money from men.   

I had a daughter at a young age.  The father did not want to be a father and he denied her.  I was okay with him not being a father, but I had a problem with him denying her and the reason for that is that I was a virgin so there was no way that she was somebody else child. 

  

My daughter is 18 and in college.  We are very close.  I have never asked a father for anything.  She know who he is but she doesn't care for him. 

  

So I feel it was my decision to have her.  He told me that he did not want a child at least by me now that I think about it and I did not take the steps to protect myself. I think women should take more responsibility as well. 

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

WHAT?

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FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH for child support is EXTREMELY UNFAIR!!!!! I thought men were legally responsible to pay 50% towards NECCESSARY expenses,NOT 200%!!!!!,and women should pay the other 50%. This woman is NOT paying $1000 per month($500 X 2)towards this child,so how the hell can the courts force this poor gent to pay $500????? (im very sure NO woman spends $1000 per month on a child).   

   

And this woman DID IN FACT lie and decieve this poor gent about not being able to have a child  and should be held responsible.And BY ALL MEANS,men should also have the EQUAL RIGHT AS WOMEN to decide on adoption,custody and even abortion.(I thought women and the governemnt beleaved in equality and fairness?).   

   

   

Do you have kids??  Do you realize how expensive they are?  It's not that children need thousands of dollars of clothes and toys, but what about medical insurance, food, prescriptions, check-ups, diapers, living expenses?  Come on now, be real.
 

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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

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     Well I just wanted to state the I am a woman & I don't think it's right to force a man to pay child support when he has been lied to. When a woman manipulates a man & lies so she can have a child against the man's will, he should not be accountable for supporting that child if he does not wish to. Now I do think he should've used a condom no matter what she said. I think if well thought out  people could reach a common ground on this subject. I also belive that if a mother to her child has the choice to give up her rights & responsiblity to her child than a man should be giving that same choice. If giving men the same choice is the wrong way to go about it, then maybe we should take away that choice from women as well, and force women to be responsible for their actions as well! I do feel that the American society cater's to women & immagrants way too much.
I am 68 female and in my lifetime have know eight women who have told the guy that they are on the pill  and three that have told them that they can not have children.  In these 11 cases the women set out to deceive.  I have known many more but in these 11 cases the was clearing a plan in motion that had nothing to do with a joint decision.  It was either five or six of them that wanted to force the marriage (this was when the pill was first out) and the other was they really didn't want the man around so much as wanted the baby and the support.  I think that if she told him she couldn't have children, but was taking the pill for another reason, that he should have been able to be safe from being a father.  He also stated he wasn't ready, so if she had any doubts, she should have told him "you'd better use protection as I forget my pills for a couple of days".  I realize there is already a child there but in her letter she carefully didn't say anything about being surprised that she got pregnant after stating that she couldn't have children so I believe she would fall in the catagory of the eleven women I have known before.
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

Both are responsable

Both parties are responsable, no matter what.  Many pregnancys throughout the US are unplanned.  It takes two to have sex, he made his choice when he decided to have sex with this young lady.   Someone needs to teach him to be responsable for his own actions.  He is acting like a child himself.
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

Are you kidding?

Are you kidding?  Last time I checked, it takes two to tango!  True, there are probably lots of men and women out there who have children and don't want the responsibility, but that doesn't not remove the FACT that it is still their child and they legally and morally have the responsiblity regardless. I am pretty certain that at some point in his life, when he grows up, he will regret the decisions he is making.  Is it okay then to put the child through the drama when he decides it's the right time for him to be a father?  Explain that one to your child!!  
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

Wear a raincoat and you won't get wet!

Plainly and simply, medicine is mostly theory.  Women who are not supposed to get pregnant get pregnant all the time, and women who otherwise have no other problems don't.  When it comes down to reproduction, there is no such thing as 100% with the exception of abstinence!  If he did not want children he should have used a condom or not had sex...period!  He says that he is not ready to be a father "at this point in his life" but what happens 10 years from now when he is ready to be a father?  This guy is immature and idiotic.  I do not agree with the person who posted that women have fought so hard to be equal and that should go for this too.  Fact of the matter is women are the only ones who can carry a child, a majority of the time (and I know that there are exceptions to this rule) women end up caring for the child, and the bond between a mother an child is something that in unequaled.  A woman does have a right to choose what happens to her body, whether she keeps it or not.  A man also has that same choice, the difference is, he needs to decide before the sex act occurs.
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:31 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

women want what they want and if its a baby all kind of excuses not to do it alone .
 
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