Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

Here's the deal - yes men should get the same say as women - BUT where does the line get drawn?  If you say a man is allowed to decide to opt out of fatherhood if they so desire - are we giving them the green light to go out and have unprotected sex when they don't have to fear the consequences of a child to care for?  Not to mention trying to adapt Roe vs Wade to fit men...if we give men the right to choose here is the reality we as women face: 

1.  a man can walk away from a child 

2.  the man can try to force a woman to have an abortion or place her child up for adoption because that is what the father wants 

3.  if a woman doesn't want a child and wants an abortion the father would have the right to force her to carry the child full term to either place for adoption or raise. 

So at what point is the line drawn?  

While he should be responsible financially for this baby, this guy is horrendous father material.  Spare baby Elizabeth any contact with this COLD, unfeeling individual.  I feel he would be a toxic and damaging presence in her life.  He chose not to wear a condom -- pay the price, little boy.     

It amazes me how many children of broken homes in this country are on this message board.  I mean statistically it is more than positive that someone who defends this piece of crap comes from the home of a "deadbeat" dad.   

I hope that everyone understands that IF>>> this goes through in my state of Michigan court system, that your state is next.  I don't think that ANYONE who agrees with this "kid" would like to be put in the situation of this young mother.  OR your Daughter to be.   

It is completely strange to hear people compliment this idiots statements.  I am sooooo unimpressed. 

I am new to this just like some others but I had to sign on to state, You can not just sign your rights over. People keep saying "Why doesnt he just sign his rights over?" because legally he probably can not. In the state that I live in even if both parents agree the father can not just terminate his rights and responsibilities. My 7 year old's father wanted to do this and I agreed because hes a horrible example as man anyways, he contacted attorneys, we contacted the state and it is against the law even though we both agree. The only way he would be able to sign his rights away is if another man whom i had to be married to atleast for a year would take full responsibility for her. I wouldve gladly let him because he honestly doesnt deserve to be a father with the way he treats her. As I understand it, this law exists for a reason, because the state if looking out for the best interest of the child, they dont want a bunch of children walking around saying "Oh I dont have a Dad" it exists enough already, they also dont want state weflare programs carrying the responsibility that alot of these men created by choice, and yes it was by choice... You have unprotected sex with a woman, know shes not on any birth control and then you say "Oh I dont want a baby when she finds out shes pregnant" well what did you think was going to happen when you have sex with no birth control? This case is different than Matts but she was told by a doctor that she couldnt have kids and now she is facing her resonsibilities, why shouldnt he have to as well?? Its not about either one of them, its about a baby.......  

OMG i wanna marry you.. lol 

wow. i think your one of the few and only, that actually see that it is equal that we both have choices. and that it is a lot of work to raise children. and it takes love...  

wow you have your head on your shoulders!!!!!