Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

Dr Phil brings out and excellent point - WHAT ABOUT ELIZABETH?  IS ANY ONE THINKING ABOUT HER?  

Sadly I must say, NOT THE FATHER!  The mother in this case was not on the show and I think that she made a wise choice.  If she had come on the show she may have felt attacked or less of a mother for being the only one in the situation thinking about the baby and what it takes to rear one in todays society.  She is not asking for the money because she made an independent choice. She did not lay down and become spontaneously pregnant alone.  She is asking the man that provided the DNA to also give her help and assistance in raising this beautiful girl.   

If we took away the money aspect all together what are we left with in this case as we know the facts to be???  A mother who wants a FATHER AND DAD to her child.  There is nothing more pure and wholesome in this life than the love a child brings to the family.  He always had a choice but it is unfortunate that he gets to throw a tantrum, like a 2 year old, and we are forced to see this on a national stage.   

He made his choice period.  Now, the end result is that he fathered a child.  Do you think it is OK to let someone go free who chose to kill his neighbor or friend?  This is no different.  He made his choice and now he is trying to run from the inevitable consequences of that choice.  He is a coward.  Real men stand up after they lie down. SEX=Parenthood period.  If everyone thought of it in this way, maybe things like this would not be happening and the cycle would not be perpetuated. 

Why do you assume she was lying? 

As a women who also couldn't get pregnant, my fiancee and i got pregnant last feburary. We know have a 5 month old baby boy.So I know how it feels when you do get pregnant and you thought you couldn't. If you didn't want to be a dad or even the chance DONT HAVE SEX!!!!! OR PERTECT YOURSELF!!!!! Now that you have a child be a man, you don't know how much you are hurting your child, especially when she grows up she will hate you!! You are not punishing your ex you are hurting your child. For the single mom's out their you keep your chin up, your child is the best thing in the world and you will be rewarded in the end   

 I would like to bring up a matter of a diffrent shade of this green topic of male rights. As a woman who could never have children of my own, but dearly loves her step children as much as their father does, I take every means to relate and communicate with the mother of these dear children. I would like to know how anyone could not want to support a child monitarily, mentaly, or otherwise. BUT.... (And here it goes!!!!) If a couple decide to have children TOGETHER then it is a TOGETHER journey. Let's say the mother decides to bail from this jorney. She meets another man and wants to be with him and devorce her spouse. Does she have a right to make the ex-husband pay for her mistakes? After all SHE made the dicision to break up the family and cleave to another. Is this fair and just to all??? He is all for suporting his children, never late and never behind with his support, ALWAYS spends every moment possible with them and yet broke while she has 3 incomes. His, her Boyfriends and her own. There is no tax breaks or even any kind of fairness in child support matters, not even the slightest bit of a break for the men who are not dead beats. Again I ask... Is this fair and just for all????? 

Except... that SHE had a bunch of escape hatches, means by which to VOID her parental responsibilities... Its sexist to give such, especially when several are NON biological, and NON 

medical, to women ONLY... 

Saying that " both assumed the risk... " requires one to be BLIND to all the women ONLY POST-coital choices that let HER out of that risk. 

Risks for men, rights for women... thats what WomenFirsters call " equal right ". Ptui. 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! ". 

My husband's first wife did the same thing.  They had been dating a while and she was on the pill she quit taking the pill without telling anyone because she wanted a baby to play with and show off.  She didn't plan on my husband offering to marry her.  They were married less than two years.  This beautiful little girl has no memory of her parent's ever being married. 

The ex wife admits getting pregnant on purpose.  But she says "I was young" as if that explains everything.   

It was VERY selfish of this woman to keep this baby when she KNEW the father didn't want anything to do her.  If she didn't believe in abortion, then how about adoption.  Everyone is jumping on Matt's head at least HE was honest, kids aren't for everyone.  My husband didn't want a baby and he didn't have to "do the right thing" but he did.  Matt has a right to feel the way he does. 

NO!  why should men have the pleasure of sex and then when the woman gets pregnant they bail out!  Not fair at all.  If they do not want children then don't have sex!!!!  The poor child, how fair is that to them.  How selfish can you be to deny your own child!  Growup and take on the responsibility!  Also, many woman have gotten pregnant when they have been told they couldn't.  Has the father led such a shelter life that he didn't know that it is sometimes possible to get pregnant when you are told you can't !  They usually call these miracle babies!  The child looses in the end.  Think of the child...what if his father did this to him and he grew up without a dad, how would he have felt!?