Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

Thank you for expressing your view that women should have NO post-coital choices, either ! 

After all, women already have " protection, absinence or just go get fixed ". If thats enough for men, 

then its... *enough for women too*... Thats, like... equality. 

It takes a moron to deny all the special, women-ONLY POST-coital choices that women get. 

Men are not just walking wallets. If you want men to be there, then give men the SAME choice to 

say " yes, I intended to become a father with you ". To demand men have no rights, only responsibilities, is to show that such people view men as 2nd class people. 

Thats misandrous sexist bigotry, of course... 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! "  

The woman doesn't have that option. She has substantial consequences regardless of what option she chooses.  

I believe they both should have choices, my concern is that Matt stated she told him she could not pregnant according to the doctors, but yet she was taking birth control pills. If she told him that it was impossible for her to get pregnant and he told her he was not ready for kids, I feel she possibily did not tell the whole truth which is why she was on birth control pills, I feel Matt should have used protection too. I am not saying that men should have the right to just walk away free of any responsibility, it takes 2 to make that innocent child that pays for 2 grown adults (or so they thought they were) mistakes.  Believe me I know My son is the result of a late night oops. When I learned I was pregnant I sat and talked with this father for a long time because I was not sure I was ready for the whole motherhood thing. He convinced me he would be there for me and my son and I  would not have to go back too work he would cut back on his hours of work to be with him and so I agreed to give birth. During my pregnancy I saw his father twice a week when I was in the hospital he was there for the delivery and over the next 3 days we saw him once. Over the next six weeks he stopped by about 3 days out of the week. Then I had to go back to work he paid my sister 500 a month to watch my son I never asked him for a thing. At age 3 his father took me to court he wanted custody he lost and was court ordered to pay child support to me. He wanted more then his typical visitation of everyother weekend and one day a week I agreed again. My son is now 9 years old he sees his father for an hour or two a couple days a week and gets his over nights with him only when I am on call and its conveinant for him. My sons child support goes into its own account and supports him I don't use it at all. I am sure I have gotten off track here but my point is I beleive both parents are or should be held accountable for the child. But I also believe that woman have the power to use a child to get what they want and alot think if they get pregnant they have their man too.   

what if the man wants the pregnancy to proceed and the GIRL wants the abortion!!!  

I think he should be fully entitled to carry the child to term and give birth to it.  There is no question about it in my mind. 

Thank you for your kind words. My view is simply out, rights for all, even men. Its amazing to read this topic's range of comments and find SO many totally unsympathetic females, who demand that 

they have all the rights, but that men get stuck with the duties to *pay them*.  

What kind of women demand cash for sex ? Well, we all know the answer to that one, eh ?  

And, pimping babies is no better.  

Men are people, too. Men have as much right to only become a parent when *they choose to*, 

as women do. Otherwise, we're talking about a society, ours right now, where women have all the power, and demand not to pay the same proportion of the bills...  

On this show, Dr. Phil is just... SO wrong. He so doesn't get Equal Rights for men. And, he so doesn't get Choice For Men, too. 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

Although you may see these laws as primarily benefiting women, but the INTENT of the law (specifically the Legal Abandon Law) is to protect the health and interests of the child. It isn't about sexism, unless you choose to interpret it that way. 

If she really needed six *months* to find out that she was pregnant, then shes too dumb to care 

for a child. Regardless of that, she still had LEGAL rights by which to VOID all her parental 

responsibilities which Matt was *denied*. Thats sexism, and its bigotry, plain and simple. 

" So she was down to two. " He was *always* " down to ZERO ". Sould like you didn't do  

*that *math ! 

If she " can handle it ", let her do so on the same basis as her choice was: 100% HERS. 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! "